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KW NORTON's avatar

On other pivotal years and watershed moments.

https://archive.org/details/the-first-global-revolution-a-report-by-the-council-of-the-club-of-rome-alexande

Which year rolls round again as one of these?

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Richard Seager's avatar

It's not working here. I doubt that it is in Queensland and Victoria either, where we're told that we all should wear masks. Compliance is a minority of upper middle class. Everybody else has had jack-shit of it.

And propaganda is a lot older than Marconi. The Greeks and Romans were very good at it, much better than this 21st Century crowd. But it still relies on force to put in place a 'new paradigm'.

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Stegiel's avatar

What times these are as we are headed into faux elections after a long hot summer. Vaccine deaths rising with reinfections. Covid was for China on one level as Naomi Wolf shows with Pfizer and the Chinese state. Napoleon is the archetype of the Master Technocrat. The American archetype might be Jefferson, the Statesman and master politician.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

That's a lovely story about Napoleon; I didn't know it!

However, your contribution has made me add a few modifications, which are inserted after the second asterisk.

Very soon, we can write a book about this! :)

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Richard Seager's avatar

To me Napoleon has the same historical context as Alexander.

https://www.thoughtco.com/bucephalus-116812

You could say that the propaganda was not Napoleon's or Alexander's (or Hannibal's, another character in the same vein) but of those who had something to gain from raising up these (possibly... nay probable, fictional) characters.

They're all somewhat Apollonic as well, N'apollon for example. Even N'apollon's, Apollo being the god of the sun, main opponent is derivative, the new English god of the sun, N'el sun, oops sorry Nelson.

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Stegiel's avatar

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12456a.htm

Formally, propaganda started with the Roman Church in the Counter Reformation.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Thank you for calling my attention to that era. It helped me realize that perhaps more clarification is needed, which I provided at the end of the original text after an asterisk.

Now, let me address your observation:

After cultural unity is lost, manipulation must start, but both Reformation and Counter-Reformation went only for the rulers, because the subjects automatically assumed the religion of their superiors, so homogeneity was restored, no matter which side won. Ideology and propaganda are not the same.

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KW NORTON's avatar

Excellent. You may be interested in Dissident MD written by Mark McDonald:

https://markmcdonaldmd.substack.com/p/from-animal-farm-to-1984?r=boqs0&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

He has a book out on mass hysteria. An excellent work on what is often called the “Stockholm Syndrome.” These times remind me of what the Salem Witch Trials may have felt like.

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Edwin's avatar

Ray, my favorite all time bumper sticker from the early 70s said:

"GIVE: To support the helpless victims of Computer Error!"

It was fear then, and it is fear now.

But you know what, I'm not scared.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Left my reply at the end of your article that was apparently inspired from this encounter! :)

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Remember the bumper sticker that said 'Live simply so that others can simply live' ? I have tried to live that one, seen in Ann Arbor in the late 1970's.

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Edwin's avatar

I did see that one on a regular basis.

It was on the back of a garbage truck at the University of South Carolina.

Thanks for the memory reminder. I need all the help I can get.

Also, see my Newsletter #1.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Being scared is an abortive pastime. :)

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