I've always been sceptical about organised religions, due to their control aspect. In all of the control guises. As such & growing up in Africa. I was exposed to animism at a very early age. Through our African house & garden helpers. Animism embraces the concept of everything having a spirit. Every spirit is & always has been inter connected. Here my own personal opinion. I trust the foreword, disclaimer, in my piece, is accepted in good faith, good spirit & good heart; for all of us!
I believe that we as humans are divine, sovereign and free. I (personally) don't need a "savior"...Dogma and doctrine is a complicated subject for humans to fathom because of eons of indoctrination with dogma. My mentor and teacher put this out for his students 15 hours ago...Coincidence? : https://rokfin.com/post/137383 Oh, and IF you are VERY brave, sitting on the edge of a crescent moon as far as "who is god" is concerned...please feel free to consider this: https://youtu.be/xrsu9ckodpU
Traditional religions exist to attempt to tame wild humans. To get some degree of control over their wildness, bloodthirstyness and independence. They have somewhat succeeded on all counts, and continue to do so for a large % of the population.
Those who have evolved themselves enough so that they no longer need the shackles of the fear of god to keep them in line have had enough of the conflicted stories that comes along with traditional religions. Many have evolved their personal spirituality enough to not need any god intermediaries, with their limited understandings and their propaganda.
Such people have likewise evolved their personal and social lives enough to not need any human 'gods' (govt/authorities), now clearly seeing the useless, obstructing and deadly character of such institutions.
Earth, for humans, is a kindergarten planet. Many of us have graduated from kindergarten, and its time to move on. We'd like for the rest of humanity to quickly graduate, too. But that's not going to happen. Earth is supposed to be a kindergarten planet for relatively young souls. Thus, the planet cannot be changed, for it is doing its job perfectly well.
Your ultimate religion is the one you discover for yourself. Remember, no one in the bible had a bible. Nature is the best place to begin your search.
Well Ray you said you’d set up a religion philosophical chat after the rant between me and ol’ renate and it’s great that you did so.
After reading some of the, hmm I guess new age or hindu buddha cosmic gaia stuff written by renate and a few others, it would seem not many want to speak on YHWH and our Father God and our Lord and Saviour Jesus of the Bible.
Some want to re-direct the discussion topic to the wrong name of Christ our Savior instead of what is important and true of God / Christ.
Anyway I’m glad you set this up.
As I know the true wisdom and understanding of Renate will be stirred up to make his blood boil as few other topics can, so some serious Biblical talk is more necessary today than anything to do with
C 19 or death shots. Too late now, that’s a done deal as are your other on target discussions of death increasing weapons of silent destruction. It is all foretold. But understanding it all and dealing with it is also Biblical and foretold.
Biblical literacy is almost nonexistent today. Let’s get started.
I think humanity gets too distracted by labels. I once heard of an example, how could you describe electricity to humans before it’s discovery. God is a being and we use the term Him because it is a familiar label. We may be made in His image but we are lesser beings. I see the trouble humanity gets into is when we try to be God like. We are currently, teetering on extinction. The Elon Musks, Noah Harari, the idiots that think you can somehow download your subconscious. They are all trying to be God like. Unfortunately for them they think they can side step judgement. Arrogance is their sin. Judgement comes for us all. Humility is a virtue for a reason.
As we are in the end of days perhaps we can move ourselves and others along the path to faith in Christ. yt channel easy mind video Lords prayer in aramaic chant. totally beautiful. pretty good yt channel harp for the Lord. video Spirit and the Bride.
For purposes of discussion; this excerpt from my article Individualized Sovereignty could serve as a good way to describe the experience of "God," in one's own life.
My sense is that any experience related to God is really related to Being.
"The condition of the sovereign “being” is a projection of the one-self into a physical birth; it is experienced by and for the sacred self. Human existence is a product of this sovereign experience. The true nature of being is formless, yet it is all there ever was, or could be. All physical forms are caused by a formless reality that is standing behind it. Temporarily participating in this experience called “human,” each experience of being are a focal point of infinite awareness. This makes each human being sovereign because the experience is observed from the vantage point of the Eternal Self; clothed in the ideation of Individual Hood. The Eternal “I,” True Being; that is both The Observer and The Observed, is One coming from Oneness. To stand within and observe the One in its myriad forms of Life; within the expression of Being, Consciousness, and Bliss. The fastest route to realization of this truth is Love. Our whole basis for Identity should be that of the formless nature of Consciousness; not human labels, or status based on appearances, since these are always transitory."
Religion is an Institution created by Elites to convince everyone that there is an inherent Arbitrary Hierarchy that creates "Exclusivity," to access God. This has always been a method of psychological manipulation. Religion was created by calcifying the inspirations that were original to Spiritual Experiences of individual seers and teachers. This resulted in "Dogma." Reading original ancient language and picking up the symbolism without the clerical "interpretations" helps a lot in seeing this.
It must be frightening to be a biblical prophet. All of a sudden you get a mysterious revelation. What do you do with it?
In my case, I hide it in plain sight. I can explain where Heaven is. I can explain the Trinitarian God. If you are interested, I can show you where. Why do I hide it? In my country, such thoughts can you get you into hot soup . . . very hot soup.
Anyway, I took offence at some atheist on Youtube mocking God for allowing cholera to exist. So I penned this{sorry, that link is stuck is a PC that would not power on) - - -
10:38 30/12/2022
16:20 30/12/2022 revised.
17:07 30/12/2022
10:51 31/12/2022
11:45 06/01/2023
In Bruce Almighty, God goes on holiday and appoints
someone to look after the shop.
Thanks to Hollywood for introducing this concept.
It makes the following essay so much shorter.
I often wonder what I would do if God had chosen
me instead.
I have a fertiliser list that includes Pope
Francis, Fauci, Tedros, Biden, Justin, Merkel,
Jacinda, Monsanto.
Should I forgive them? no, No, NO! ... but ...
In my infinite mercy, I will treat this life as
a test run and not count their sins. I will give
them a second chance but under certain conditions.
This is why I allow Cholera to exist if you must
question.
The male in this life shall be born female in round 2.
Ditto for rich/poor. Developed/backward countries.
That quote by paul tillich- God the father is being itself beyond essence and existence, But Christ is emmanuelle [sorry bout spelling this is new to me} meaning God with us. Since the schism the WEST has used rationalism to understand christianity and essentially lost the truth of it. see father seraphim rose analysis of history called i think orthodox survival course. orthodoxy is the true ancient christianity and he has helped me. Basically its not with the mind rationalism or mental processes that one understands christianity.
Trees and plants. They have been here for billions more years than us, so they are actually 'smarter' and I treat them as elder brothers and sisters. Imagine you could not move around quickly, and had to get everything you need from your immediate surroundings; plants and trees live that way, and we would do better to emulate and learn about them in as many ways as possible. Stephen Buhners books are as bibles to me, (esp. Herbal Antibiotics and Herbal AntiVirals both updated for C19). Knowledgable herbalists are my prophets and teachers, the plants and trees themselves like family; Burdock root tea (with quercitin and inulin, and many constituents we haven't bothered to assess) got me though a 'mystery wasting illness' late 2019. I drank a pint a day for nearly 40 days, and took no other medicines.
I ultimately refused the vaccine. My Priest said, "it is unwise to place one's will over one's conscience".
I respect other people too. We have been given free will. Sometimes I am attacked by Christians for not being judgemental, but I find trying to lead by example, if possible, is good.
Religious/Philosophical Controversies Are Welcome for the Weekend!
Thanks Ray! Excellent topic indeed.
I've always been sceptical about organised religions, due to their control aspect. In all of the control guises. As such & growing up in Africa. I was exposed to animism at a very early age. Through our African house & garden helpers. Animism embraces the concept of everything having a spirit. Every spirit is & always has been inter connected. Here my own personal opinion. I trust the foreword, disclaimer, in my piece, is accepted in good faith, good spirit & good heart; for all of us!
https://andybunting.substack.com/p/earth-mother
I believe that we as humans are divine, sovereign and free. I (personally) don't need a "savior"...Dogma and doctrine is a complicated subject for humans to fathom because of eons of indoctrination with dogma. My mentor and teacher put this out for his students 15 hours ago...Coincidence? : https://rokfin.com/post/137383 Oh, and IF you are VERY brave, sitting on the edge of a crescent moon as far as "who is god" is concerned...please feel free to consider this: https://youtu.be/xrsu9ckodpU
Traditional religions exist to attempt to tame wild humans. To get some degree of control over their wildness, bloodthirstyness and independence. They have somewhat succeeded on all counts, and continue to do so for a large % of the population.
Those who have evolved themselves enough so that they no longer need the shackles of the fear of god to keep them in line have had enough of the conflicted stories that comes along with traditional religions. Many have evolved their personal spirituality enough to not need any god intermediaries, with their limited understandings and their propaganda.
Such people have likewise evolved their personal and social lives enough to not need any human 'gods' (govt/authorities), now clearly seeing the useless, obstructing and deadly character of such institutions.
Earth, for humans, is a kindergarten planet. Many of us have graduated from kindergarten, and its time to move on. We'd like for the rest of humanity to quickly graduate, too. But that's not going to happen. Earth is supposed to be a kindergarten planet for relatively young souls. Thus, the planet cannot be changed, for it is doing its job perfectly well.
Your ultimate religion is the one you discover for yourself. Remember, no one in the bible had a bible. Nature is the best place to begin your search.
In all my years I encountered one person that I could trust, my wife.
I was always searching for a special friend that would give me the
knowledge that I longed for.Meanwhile or until then.i would read
as much as I could find in the libraries and book stores,thrift shops,
always alone and wondering. One day my wife read about an
invitation to a revelation seminar that included her favorite subject,
science. She went to the meeting by herself and enjoyed the
program.She shared her experience and I decided to join her for
protection if the group turned out to be a cult. We didn't realize our
true condition. We were both barely coping. We had never mentioned
the word God at any time and here we were entering a church. The
program had already started and the Evangelist was reading about
a Savior who died in order to remove sin from the universe. As soon
as I heard this I connected with The Friend that I had been searching
for all of my life. I immediately felt for the first time a love that
permeated my whole being. My search was over. It turned out that
this group was actually a cult which we discovered much later.
We were asked to leave for asking too many questions that they
we're not able to answer.
My wife went to a religious book store and purchased all the
material that I needed to learn the Bible.That was almost fifty
years ago. I could write books on our journey with God Who
has led us into a endless Life.. We stayed by ourselves
and are living a simple life without any T.V..radio or any
distractions. We follow a regime of natural medicine and prayer.
All we desire is a closer walk with A Wonderful Creator.
‘To argue that God exists is to deny him’
💎🙏❤️
Well Ray you said you’d set up a religion philosophical chat after the rant between me and ol’ renate and it’s great that you did so.
After reading some of the, hmm I guess new age or hindu buddha cosmic gaia stuff written by renate and a few others, it would seem not many want to speak on YHWH and our Father God and our Lord and Saviour Jesus of the Bible.
Some want to re-direct the discussion topic to the wrong name of Christ our Savior instead of what is important and true of God / Christ.
Anyway I’m glad you set this up.
As I know the true wisdom and understanding of Renate will be stirred up to make his blood boil as few other topics can, so some serious Biblical talk is more necessary today than anything to do with
C 19 or death shots. Too late now, that’s a done deal as are your other on target discussions of death increasing weapons of silent destruction. It is all foretold. But understanding it all and dealing with it is also Biblical and foretold.
Biblical literacy is almost nonexistent today. Let’s get started.
Isaiah, Jeremiah. And more. Jonah was minor. But he went
'by appearance, remember? Not faith in God.
Today we don't have so much.
School kills the spirit.
Children don't need school.
I think humanity gets too distracted by labels. I once heard of an example, how could you describe electricity to humans before it’s discovery. God is a being and we use the term Him because it is a familiar label. We may be made in His image but we are lesser beings. I see the trouble humanity gets into is when we try to be God like. We are currently, teetering on extinction. The Elon Musks, Noah Harari, the idiots that think you can somehow download your subconscious. They are all trying to be God like. Unfortunately for them they think they can side step judgement. Arrogance is their sin. Judgement comes for us all. Humility is a virtue for a reason.
As we are in the end of days perhaps we can move ourselves and others along the path to faith in Christ. yt channel easy mind video Lords prayer in aramaic chant. totally beautiful. pretty good yt channel harp for the Lord. video Spirit and the Bride.
For purposes of discussion; this excerpt from my article Individualized Sovereignty could serve as a good way to describe the experience of "God," in one's own life.
My sense is that any experience related to God is really related to Being.
"The condition of the sovereign “being” is a projection of the one-self into a physical birth; it is experienced by and for the sacred self. Human existence is a product of this sovereign experience. The true nature of being is formless, yet it is all there ever was, or could be. All physical forms are caused by a formless reality that is standing behind it. Temporarily participating in this experience called “human,” each experience of being are a focal point of infinite awareness. This makes each human being sovereign because the experience is observed from the vantage point of the Eternal Self; clothed in the ideation of Individual Hood. The Eternal “I,” True Being; that is both The Observer and The Observed, is One coming from Oneness. To stand within and observe the One in its myriad forms of Life; within the expression of Being, Consciousness, and Bliss. The fastest route to realization of this truth is Love. Our whole basis for Identity should be that of the formless nature of Consciousness; not human labels, or status based on appearances, since these are always transitory."
Religion is an Institution created by Elites to convince everyone that there is an inherent Arbitrary Hierarchy that creates "Exclusivity," to access God. This has always been a method of psychological manipulation. Religion was created by calcifying the inspirations that were original to Spiritual Experiences of individual seers and teachers. This resulted in "Dogma." Reading original ancient language and picking up the symbolism without the clerical "interpretations" helps a lot in seeing this.
My favorite author for Christianity was C.S. Lewis.
Screwtape letters, Mere Christianity.
I'm a believer there because I love freedom.
To follow Him, I've got to TOTALLY approve, agree with, LIKE the leader.
I found it all in Yehoshua, which means 'The Eternal Present is Salvation '. Jesus is invented (1640 a.d.). Iesous is the Greek,
He saves.
He saved me.
May I ask Ray if you'd let folks talk about 'confronting'?, dealing with
tyranny? What does 'do not consent' look like if environmental 'police' come, for example?
Haven't yet prayed, meditated on it?
Btw? Years ago, at the airport, US!! border crossing, we almost 'disappeared' forever. So, it's real.
It must be frightening to be a biblical prophet. All of a sudden you get a mysterious revelation. What do you do with it?
In my case, I hide it in plain sight. I can explain where Heaven is. I can explain the Trinitarian God. If you are interested, I can show you where. Why do I hide it? In my country, such thoughts can you get you into hot soup . . . very hot soup.
Anyway, I took offence at some atheist on Youtube mocking God for allowing cholera to exist. So I penned this{sorry, that link is stuck is a PC that would not power on) - - -
10:38 30/12/2022
16:20 30/12/2022 revised.
17:07 30/12/2022
10:51 31/12/2022
11:45 06/01/2023
In Bruce Almighty, God goes on holiday and appoints
someone to look after the shop.
Thanks to Hollywood for introducing this concept.
It makes the following essay so much shorter.
I often wonder what I would do if God had chosen
me instead.
I have a fertiliser list that includes Pope
Francis, Fauci, Tedros, Biden, Justin, Merkel,
Jacinda, Monsanto.
Should I forgive them? no, No, NO! ... but ...
In my infinite mercy, I will treat this life as
a test run and not count their sins. I will give
them a second chance but under certain conditions.
This is why I allow Cholera to exist if you must
question.
The male in this life shall be born female in round 2.
Ditto for rich/poor. Developed/backward countries.
Rapists/comfort women. I leave it as an exercise
for for the reader to extend this list. I will
naturally appoint some angel to handle this.
Two if necessary.
History will repeat itself right?
Not if I declare that everybody will reach
puberty and when that happens, everybody
will dream of their past life
in vignettes for one whole year. But what about
the intellectuals who are now born retarded?
Fair question.
Am I not infinitely merciful? Slow to anger,
rich in mercy ... that sort of thing?
I have a reputation to maintain.
I shall also give them a free pass this time.
Drat Abraham and his plea for Sodom. Did
this story come from Persia too?
Have you considered that God introduced
those concepts one at a time before
consolidating them? Don't celebrities
wear disguises to avoid the Paparazzi?
I don't believe in masking but I still put
it on to blend in.
Raiders Of The Lost Ark fulfilled
Zechariah 14:12-19. Dude, you got pwned.
But the third round is final and absolute.
The warmongers shall face my wrath. But I am
human. I need suggestions. Slowly lowered into
a wood chipper? Daily Alabama Hotpockets?
WARNING - DO NOT google that term.
It is my 12th commandment. I have spoken.
It is not negotiable.
Go on. I dare you to defy me.
Mock me? Make fun of me?
We shall see.
I believe God exists.
There are too many
riddles in this universe that science cannot
explain.
Godel's Incompleteness Theorems
prove that mathematics is man-made. Do you
understand the Banach-Tarski Paradox?
Cosmologists tout Dark Matter and Dark Energy.
Why don't you mock them as well? Which Hubble
constant do they use?
The proton is "round-ish" and yet there are
supposed to be 3 quarks whizzing about.
If I give you 3 marbles, make me a sphere.
How does each particle solve its
own 3-body problem in real time and
consistently?
If you want to bug a physicist, ask them to
explain the Fine Structure Constant or
is it Fine Structure Variable?
Show me a magnetic monopole. Isn't the Big Bang
supposed to create those?
Read The Epigenetics Revolution by Nessa Carey.
Can evolution come up with those mechanisms by
pure chance? Histones. Methyl groups. microRNA.
Like Infinite Monkeys banging at typewriters
and producing a Shakespeare play.
Give me a break,
I explain the Trinitarian God in PART3 of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhrRUM5t_sI
or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1RxAT3IdjI
You choir makes up your audience ... is this
not confirmation bias?
I only have one piece of evidence to assert the
existence and divinity of Jesus Christ.
His 12 disciples, who witnessed his works, all
died gruesome deaths WITHOUT a single one
recanting. Judas alone escaped the
gruesome bit.
Would you recant if they started pulling
your fingernails out? Or pulling out your
teeth. Or cutting your fingers segment by
segment with bolt cutters? Does this not
prove that Satan exists? How about tossing
babies up in the air as targets for bayonet
practice? Good, clean family fun right?
Would you pray to God then? OK, ok.
I respect your choice. I don't exist.
So what will you do then?
Do you call upon BlackAdam/JBiden/JBauer/JBourne/JBond?
Be my guest. You have one phone call.
Oh, by the way as they remove the still
alive digit-less, toe-less body from the
comfy chair and strap you in, please don't
say "Oh, my God!" because that would be
cheating.
For the rest of you, how certain are you
that you are not already in round 3? I
might have fibbed a little about
those warning dreams. My bad.
Oh, I also never said that everybody
enters into each round at the same
time. Don't script writers like to
add a little twist?
I think you should pray that God returns
from his vacation sooner rather than later.
I suck at being God. I think all of you
would agree.
That quote by paul tillich- God the father is being itself beyond essence and existence, But Christ is emmanuelle [sorry bout spelling this is new to me} meaning God with us. Since the schism the WEST has used rationalism to understand christianity and essentially lost the truth of it. see father seraphim rose analysis of history called i think orthodox survival course. orthodoxy is the true ancient christianity and he has helped me. Basically its not with the mind rationalism or mental processes that one understands christianity.
Trees and plants. They have been here for billions more years than us, so they are actually 'smarter' and I treat them as elder brothers and sisters. Imagine you could not move around quickly, and had to get everything you need from your immediate surroundings; plants and trees live that way, and we would do better to emulate and learn about them in as many ways as possible. Stephen Buhners books are as bibles to me, (esp. Herbal Antibiotics and Herbal AntiVirals both updated for C19). Knowledgable herbalists are my prophets and teachers, the plants and trees themselves like family; Burdock root tea (with quercitin and inulin, and many constituents we haven't bothered to assess) got me though a 'mystery wasting illness' late 2019. I drank a pint a day for nearly 40 days, and took no other medicines.
God is my concience and is why
I ultimately refused the vaccine. My Priest said, "it is unwise to place one's will over one's conscience".
I respect other people too. We have been given free will. Sometimes I am attacked by Christians for not being judgemental, but I find trying to lead by example, if possible, is good.
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