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Susan's avatar

Continue thought ... personal responsibility, humility and a continual questioning of what’s going on. To be able to adapt and adjust is a continuous project. Nature has a way of smacking down stupid, the penalty for stupid is extinction.

Eat good food, Do good work, be honest- especially with yourself-

Thanks for all Ray:)

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This is a really good discussion . Will try to work out some more ideas in a post later. My immediate thoughts are

(1) I read the Constitution differently. Those unalienable rights are not conferred by any documents or governments. They are conferred by a creator to each of us. This to me is the great center thought of what could be a Democracy.

(2) the founding ancestors failed partially because of their own deficient understanding of these rights. They felt it was fine to exclude women, blacks, native Americans, etc.

(3) we must be extraordinarily careful in assuming our history in America is well understood - it isn’t.

(4) there is a huge misunderstanding of the freedom called license, versus actual freedom. It is freedom we’re after and not license. License is anarchy.

(5) our nation state has been a corporation from before it even existed.

(6) without resorting to the noble savage argument there is far more to the conflict between Native Americans themselves and that between the corporate European invaders and NA’s. their history is widely misinterpreted from lack of real knowledge

(7) the deal we make to trade freedom for security underlies the entire hierarchical structure of all civilizations from time immemorial. There are poorly appreciated reasons for this.

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