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The money masters most likely came from Holland. Dutch money is said to have financed Cromwell. No Stuart would surrender control of money so Charles had to go. But Cromwell also did not surrender control of money. Nor did his son. Nor did Charles II. The man William of Orange (also secretly backed by the Pope to counter the Sun King of France, Louis XIV) was willing to please the mercantile class of England ,(the Whigs) and charter the Bank of England. I observe that the Medici had limited control of finance. The Fuggers of Austria had more but not a central bank. This banking family replaced the Medici family, who influenced all of Europe during the Renaissance. The Fuggers took over many of the Medicis' assets and their political power and influence. They were closely affiliated with the House of Habsburg whose rise to world power they financed. Unlike the citizenry of their hometown and most other trading patricians of German free imperial cities, such as the Tuchers, they never converted to Lutheranism, as presented in the Augsburg Confession, but rather remained with the Roman Catholic Church and thus close to the Habsburg emperors.[1]

Jakob Fugger "the Rich" was elevated to the nobility of the Holy Roman Empire in May 1511 and assumed the title Imperial Count of Kirchberg and Weissenhorn in 1514. Today, he is considered to be one of the wealthiest people ever to have lived, with an GDP-adjusted net worth of over $400 billion, and approximately 2% of the entire GDP of Europe at the time. While the company was dissolved in 1657, the Fuggers remained wealthy landowners and ruled the County of Kirchberg and Weissenhorn. The Babenhausen branch became Princes of the Holy Roman Empire in 1803, the Glött branch princes in the Kingdom of Bavaria in 1914.

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Agreed. It didn't start yesterday. And the rabbit hole goes deep. The deeper we go, the more we learn that the rabbit hole, rat hole goes way deeper. And what's on the surface isn't good stuff either. I just watched a video on mass shootings - SUPPOSED mass shootings. https://jermwarfare.com/conversations/james-fetzer-mass-shootings

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