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In the Catholic Christian paradigm, which I hold to be true, you are precisely wrong. We are not all born Satanists, we are born with original sin and our concupiscence, which emerges onto the worlds stage by the time we reach the age of reason, means that we all (with the sole exception of the Virgin Mary) sin in ways great or small, venial or mortal, by commission or omission. There is a huge difference between that world view (developed and explicated by thousands of Saints and holy men and women over two millennia) and holding that we are all affiliated with Satan by our sins. Stating the problem in such bald terms is very likely to lead people to not examine their consciences, since it is very easy (and justified) to say "I'm not a Satanist". For a sin to be mortal, three elements must be present: it must entail grave matter, engaged in with full knowledge and with the assent of the will. Venial sin is committed when only one or two of those conditions are met. Mortal sin separates a soul from God, venial sins, in isolation, do not, though they can act cumulatively to separate the soul from God if not repented and confessed.

A comment box is too limited in scope to examine all the issues involved, however it is understood generally in Christian religion, that final impenitence, which Catholics take to mean dying in steadfast refusal to repent and confess, leads to damnation and that this broadly defines the "sin against the Holy Spirit" which cannot be forgiven (if forgiveness is not wanted, it will not be conferred against the will). Affiliation with Satan probably comes perilously close to this definition since it is such a grotesque repudiation of the justice and goodness of God as Lord of all creation and entails enormities of pride, arrogance, hubris and a willingness to commit grave evils "do as though wilt is the whole of the law" as Satanists say. A soul who strays into this territory during life is at grave risk of meeting the definition of the sin that cannot be forgiven - such souls are likely to relish and revel in their sin, so therefore all too likely to die in final impenitence.

On this basis one can see why it is rash to say that we are all born Satanists, this is a grievous overstatement. God is good, He loves we his children and desires that we spend eternity with Him in Heaven. Starting out in life as Satanists would prove an impossible burden and for the vast majority, this burden is not present, though I admit it must be possible, even likely that Satanic bloodline families endeavour the seal the fates of their children by indoctrination and inculcation. However, this might mean that one of the three elements of mortal sin is not be present. If MKUltra programming of alters is a real thing (I believe it might be) grievous evils done in one of the alter states might conceivably not entail damnation, since free will is absent.

Perhaps this is a long way of saying that prudence is required when speaking of these matters. I think your post is imprudent for these reasons.

Don't dismiss the Black Mass - it is most certainly a real thing. To one who desires to repudiate God, repudiation comes no stronger than the inversion of Holy Mass, the most potent of all seven sacraments. Sad to say, we Catholics have it on extremely credible authority that Cardinal Bernardin participated in a Black Mass and all it entails as part of a direct insinuation of the satanic spirit into the Vatican. Pope Paul VI himself alluded to the "smoke of Satan" having infiltrated Holy Church. For the sake of clarity, we Catholics make a vital distinction - what is not of God, cannot be of the true Church, his bride, therefore those human parts of the church that became so infiltrated, have separated themselves from the True Church by their acts. When, as Catholics believe, the True Church comprises Church Militant (the living, human component), Church Suffering (those souls being purified so as to be worthy of entering God's presence) and Church Triumphant (those souls already in heaven), it is perhaps easier to see how Satan's infiltration is not definitive, though the assault is grievous in human and spiritual terms.

Hoping this helps.

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