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niko's avatar
niko's avatar

On going to the moon:

Wagging the Moondoggie

https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie/

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

I just read it a couple of days ago that Stanley Kubrick admitted shortly before he died that his "greatest work" was the "Moon landing."

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Rick Larson's avatar

The planet is irreversibly changed and we don't know the future, but DNA will figure out what to do even after this very short term manipulation. Most of us won't like how hard it will become though...

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Even natural mutations are unpredictable! :)

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KW NORTON's avatar

Yes we live amongst perpetual chaos. But life possesses great self-organising properties against chaos. The injection of what are basically life-threatening policies and mindsets are rampant right now. We will overcome because we are left with no choice. We will either organise culture to facilitate our genetic and cultural evolution or we won’t survive. A mad max world will achieve nothing but further chaos.

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Rick Larson's avatar

The odds of not surviving are increasing.

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KW NORTON's avatar

Yes well so are the odds of some surviving to overcome these problems. We evolved to cope with these things. Why get stuck in worrying about survival except as you often do - based in the practical methods. It is the practical we need to apply.

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Rick Larson's avatar

You are brave to have a discussion to this point, not many can consider these ideas. I feel bad now so lets forget about this.

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KW NORTON's avatar

No use feeling bad. We agree on some fundamentals. Politics is the art of incorporating deferent ideas or approaches.

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Rick Larson's avatar

The odds of an extinction event I think is rare enough to think it can't happen, but still, its a possibility that is increasing as humans change the composition of the planet. We don't know the long term effects of our activities.

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Rick Larson's avatar

I'm not worried, I have planned for a worsening case scenario.

The only people worried are those who don't plan.

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KW NORTON's avatar

We have known for a long time it would get rougher, much rougher. Be well, stay strong. And yes, even with a strong genetic bottleneck, evolution will triumph. We lived through one of these in the past and it led to the triumph of a strong, evolutionarily favourable, genetic heritage from Africa. After that we made poor decisions about the genetically strong peoples. Perhaps we can avoid the same mistakes? Evolution is about survival.

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Rick Larson's avatar

The best I can some up with is to integrate into available biology.

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KW NORTON's avatar

Yes, we are all we’ve got going forward. We are biology along with all life on Planet Earth.

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Rick Larson's avatar

I don't think many will accept this challenge.

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KW NORTON's avatar

They may not and may continue to dominate for awhile but their strategy must be seen as death dealing and counter evolutionary. This will be their downfall. Tyranny will always and perpetually be our challenge. It is why several other admirable cultures and the philosophy of our founding American ancestors may serve as guides. We will do this because we must.

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Rick Larson's avatar

This hope will prevent you from actually doing something to avoid the chaos.

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Marta Staszak's avatar

Thanks Ray, it looks like a plan. I can not place "lol" here because it is not a laughing matter. You just wonder, don't you, about their way of thinking.

In my mind: firstly, they are not free human beings (if they're in fact hb like us)

secondly, thirdly an so on: have to "operate" within the same physical paradigms: time (24hr in a day etc., geographical/geological realm, natural laws, etc)

physical attributes as humans: one head, four limbs, digestive system etc.

After all they all have to eat and sh1t like the rest of us even if they pay someone to wipe their arse afterwards.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

What have they achieved? Apart from talking, that is.

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Stegiel's avatar

Hard to know. Networking works like that and this is why organizations of limited means but interesting ideas held by interesting people were fated to draw others in. Not being mass oriented Lifeboat connects with Silicon Valley people and like-minded others.

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Edwin's avatar

It should be obvious that our odds of getting off this rock while it can still support our life forms is problematical at best, built by the lowest bidder at worst.

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Bill's avatar

'The one public official that we could trust has died' LOL.. This is the truth now

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/social-media-mourns-dog-mayor-idyllwild-mayor-max-174021372.html

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Bill's avatar

OH, and I like the Van Allen belt radiation comment, most people won't catch that, but I knew about that, so it sorta debunks any cough cough manned space travel past or future..

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Richard Seager's avatar

I read recently that it wasn't just the Van Allen belt that was a problem but the whole of space more or less.

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Bill's avatar

Ray like most psychopaths and megalomaniacs they never think their crazy let me play GOD plans won't work, all of them since the beginning of time were Pinky and The Brain, and they all failed, that is why they pass their EVIL from Father and Mother to son and daughter, to keep the EVIL dream alive..

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Bill's avatar

You should make that into a cartoon series.. All cartoons..

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