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Zafla's avatar

The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the ego of the oppressed

The ego is a measurable quantity

The real reason behind the accelerated process of crashing and resetting the civil society is the new light that disturbs the current system of egos like never before in the history

https://evolutionnews.org/2019/04/chemist-james-tour-is-scathing-hilarious-show-me-the-chemistry-of-abiogensis-its-not-there/

I don't care anymore if you will erase my comment

I am Zafla

One of the few banned by RAY HORVATH, "THE SOURCE" :)

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

What is your point, anyway?

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

On the one-year anniversary of this site, I gave amnesty to the three or four people, whom I banned only because they tried to turn the comment section unreadable.

Zafla was not among them. :)

I usually allow opinions as long as they don't violate a few principles:

On May 6, 2023, the one-year anniversary of my site, I issued a "general amnesty," (I think, it was three people) and I haven't had to ban anyone yet. Of course, I will, if I have to, because the comment sections make up much of the value on my site and I won't tolerate comments that deter readers.

I've also published the common offenses in:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/intelligent-trolls-are-now-saying

and in

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/this-site-needs-your-help

The-Crypto-Rationalist also recommended the following excellent page:

https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1388

The first article summarizes the threat:

During the 12 months, I have encountered a number of trolls/bots/humans whose train had left the tracks. The latest ones are extremely smart and sophisticated. In this article, I’ll refer to such trolls/bots/humans as Entities, which I will abbreviate as EY.

How do EY operate?

1. EY usually gives you something first in order to gain your trust;

2. floods comment sections with irrelevant, confusing, or misleading comments in order to make the sections unreadable;

3. employs mind-bending tricks in order to exhaust the reader and force them into brainless submission;

5. isolates and decontextualizes contents in order to be able to use straw man arguments and false analogies;

6. EY never completes its arguments in order to make sure the process can never end; when forced into completing an argument, it tends to attack you ad hominem (sometimes going as far as posting long diatribes) or, on preferred occasions, politely vanishes;

7. eventually, it tries to discredit you in order to get rid of an opponent of the official narrative that they actually serve.

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Zafla's avatar

Ray

My last two comments were about egos in society

Both were not clear to you

The comment that you erased was liked by one of your readers which means it was not that bad

You do not need to dump something just because it is not clear

As any of your faithful readers do, I try to give my best in each statement

I need your best just as much as you need mine

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Sorry if there was any misunderstanding.

So, we might as well start keeping communication channels clear.

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Mike Huggins's avatar

I’m not a fan of SS payment system. It’s even turned billionaire Steve Kirsch into a beggar. Robert Malone boasts he has tens of thousands of paid subscribers so I think if we put a Dr in front of our name it will attract paid subscribers even if our articles read like a phone book. Some good writers have bailed out because it’s not worth their time here.

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Neal Terrance's avatar

Ray, I really enjoy your work, you have made me see several things in a different light. I have also had a few discussions with you even as unpaid guy. There has to be more to your work that nets a gain for you either monetarily or not. I don’t know what that may be but I’ll tell you a short story of my substack writer experience in the early days of substack and as always you comments are welcomed.

Steve Kirsch was soliciticing volunteers to he get his words out about C 19. I said I’d try and help out.

Of course we all know Steve Kirsch needs no financial help at all. I was willing to help him because I believed his message that Covid is BS just like you and I both believe. I was asked to join or lead several different type groups, and then I was even contacted by a guy who was supposedly from Mexico. I shortly realized it was all a game and Steve Kirsch, who, as we know, invested heavily in substack, and is probably profiting greatly from it was in need of no help actually.

I’m not sure what he was really trying to do with the app, but he did solicit a lot of names and people for whatever reason that might’ve been.

I’m not putting you in that category with Steve Kirsch as I don’t know anything about you Ray but I do know Steve is a very wealthy man even as he said he and his family had to been injected with the dreaded shots. I think you yourself has commented that sub stack has been infiltrated by controlled opposition, and I certainly think it’s also been infiltrated by the AI bots.

And again, I’m not saying that is you Ray, as I really have been in enlightened by much of your writings.

Peace to you Ray Horvath and I will kick in a few bucks cause you are worth it in my opinion.

I believe you have faith in our Father, and Lord Jesus Christ even if you don’t use those words.

Oh ya, I mentioned God’s earth being flat with a firmament once and you were willing to give that a voice. KJV Genesis ch. 1 mentions what our earth is in creation. Read that and tell me God did not create the firmament to separate the waters above from the waters below, and he created the sun, the moon and the stars also. HE DOES NOT MENTION AN EARTH ROCK, BALL SPINNING 1,000 MPH around a sun. He says the sun, moon and stars are inside His firmament. He does not mention planets. Yet he speaks in great details of experiences of men, their wives and their prodigency. Wouldn’t a universe of stars and planets outside our “solar system” warrant a chapter at least?

501(3)c churches cannot talk about this cause they are controlled. Are you controlled Ray?

Now therein lies a truth. Do you agree? Is it worth a few dollars more?

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Neal Terrance's avatar

Renate, FE is not a Psyop, but fact. You’ve been indoctrinated and believe a lie that is all imagination.

“Thinking themselves wise, they became fools”. The real Psyop is the heliocentric model introduced by Copernicus.

I don’t believe in religion labels, only The Word and the Way which is the inspired word of God. Channeling you say? Ha

What do you call yourself or affiliate yourself? To the deceit of man and his science, which is not?

When ‘every knee shall bow in His presence to account of oneself, I hope you can channel your way out of where you may find your soul. You may be told ‘Depart from me, I never knew you”.

Who do you suppose controls all the evil things Ray writes about other than man inspired by Demonic controlled men…that is obvious if you’re awake. This is all a spiritual battle and it is drawing to a climactic conclusion. Good luck on your journey.

Sorry Ray, Had to respond to a non believer. Now back to your request.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Apologies, but I usually say that "What difference does it make in your life if the Earth is flat or not? How are you going to make sure your life will be more worthwhile either way?"

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Apologies, but would it be possible to leave personal discussions on religion off the site, please? It's fine to express opinions and share experiences, but there is not much point in starting arguments about people's most personal decisions...

Thank you for your understanding.

I've been asked to start up a separate site for religious/philosophy for such activities before, but I don't know how I could keep it in order...

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

You see, everyone needs to believe in something and what's better to believe in than a God who becomes human and takes all what human suffering is all about? I'm not preaching here and I respect all religions that don't hurt others.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Can you guys just transfer this discussion to my latest forum, please?

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/religiousphilosophical-controversies

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Sorry, if I'm making the wrong impression. Everybody is welcome here and I am becoming proud and protective of the community forming.

You are a most welcome member, but for others, who read this, my standards are hopefully clear:

On May 6, 2023, the one-year anniversary of my site, I issued a "general amnesty," (I think, it was three people) and I haven't had to ban anyone yet. Of course, I will, if I have to, because the comment sections make up much of the value on my site and I won't tolerate comments that deter readers.

I've also published the common offenses in:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/intelligent-trolls-are-now-saying

and in

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/this-site-needs-your-help

The-Crypto-Rationalist also recommended the following excellent page:

https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1388

The first article summarizes the threat:

During the 12 months, I have encountered a number of trolls/bots/humans whose train had left the tracks. The latest ones are extremely smart and sophisticated. In this article, I’ll refer to such trolls/bots/humans as Entities, which I will abbreviate as EY.

How do EY operate?

1. EY usually gives you something first in order to gain your trust;

2. floods comment sections with irrelevant, confusing, or misleading comments in order to make the sections unreadable;

3. employs mind-bending tricks in order to exhaust the reader and force them into brainless submission;

5. isolates and decontextualizes contents in order to be able to use straw man arguments and false analogies;

6. EY never completes its arguments in order to make sure the process can never end; when forced into completing an argument, it tends to attack you ad hominem (sometimes going as far as posting long diatribes) or, on preferred occasions, politely vanishes;

7. eventually, it tries to discredit you in order to get rid of an opponent of the official narrative that they actually serve.

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Tsipora Pereira's avatar

The Bible is the deceit we Westerners shall have to confront if we ever want to grow up mentally, beyond the age of Sunday-school. The Greek mind was better developed in the 6th and 5th centuries BCE than ours in the 21st AD. Owing to Church and Bible. With its use of a hardly if at all understood set of scriptures Christianity has spawned all the ideologies, including false beliefs and sciences, that the fabric of humanity has lately seemed to burst under. That is what I see lieing ahead of us.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

I might as well start up a discussion for the weekend for sharing opinions about religions, philosophies, and their roles in civilizations.

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Tsipora Pereira's avatar

Sorry about this, I can take it away if you want. I do feel however that Christianity and the Bible are at the heart and soul of our trouble.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

You were not personal and opinions are fine, although this time religion doesn't exactly pertain to the topic. :)

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whiskeys's avatar

It seems we're all in the same boat. I'm persona non grata in my own country, if I didn't have a (very) small pension from another country I worked in that kicked in at 60, I'd be sunk. And probably will be anyway.

But I do have some bitcoin. Not my fave currency, but it can be useful. Many countries have a site called bitrefill, where you can buy gift certs with bitcoin to a number of places, like grocery stores, amazon, whatever. If it'd be of use to you, let me know, I'll send some - lightning network only, regular bitcoin network has usurious sending fees these days.

Hoping we all get thru this mess. And thanks for your stack. I don't always agree with you, but you always write something worth thinking about.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

That's kind of you.

Yes, informing, entertaining, and inspiring are my objectives, which includes that readers must make up their own mind without bothering about my opinion. :)

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Sunshinegirl1217's avatar

I did a monthly subscription. Wish I could do more but every little bit helps I think. Having a fixed income can be a challenge although not an insurmountable one. The time, effort and hard work you put in, and that of your wife, deserves my support. I'm probably making a hash of this but thank you, I enjoy this substack immensely.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Thank you kindly.

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Letsrock's avatar

Ray,

There is nothing I'd like better than to support you and all the other wonderful ss journalists I've discovered. I would also like to pay my bills and have something left over at the end of the month. Being a widow on one income just isn't cutting it. Sorry.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

No need to apologize. You are supporting me with your presence and your comments. You can also leave links to articles you like on popular websites. Many people cannot afford to support anything or anyone these days.

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Tiny Texas Houses Newsletter's avatar

I am glad to hear honest sharing on the results of the platform in so far as paying a decent income or growing a following. I came with 14,700 subscribers over 7 years on Mailchimp. I lost 6,000 in the first 6 months and attributed it to the higher frequency I was writing and took awhile to understand the difficulty with jumping through hoops to be a sub, to give a like or heart on the emails that requires getting on the platform, signing in and then a comment. I found the subscribers who converted to paid, some charter, others monthly, have had trouble getting their credit cards, banks, and methods of payment through without kickbacks. Some renewals cause issues for the subs not expecting it and many names change or emails get dropped. Overall, I am growing my free subs but slightly losing paid subs... projected $4,500 but then Stripe is insanely expensive as a payout method which is a forced choice at 14% + which combined with Substack, they are the big winners given the service for either sucks. After 3.5-4 million words and thousands of pictures, I also learned Stripe is a Woke Company thus Substack must be too, and thus why I have had a bit of the censoring and shadow-banning issue on this platform. Sadly, this does not look like the solution I was hoping for.. but now I must figure out where to go that is not selling out in the near future, an persistent outcome for every Freedom committed platform where privacy is supposed to rule, yet there is no traffic or means to make an income. In 15 years, FB, Youtube, never let me monetize my sites. Why does this site not promote conservative solution oriented writers. I doubt anyone writes more than us, but with only a portion of what I write on this site, still much to do. Where to go if this won't do? I know... too long a comment as you told me before.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

You are running a good project that will always attract people with its immediate usefulness. You have also gathered a huge amount of experience even with all the losses, which assures at least a high level of expediency. Several authors run the same materials on a number of sites that are similar to Substack, but I can barely put up with the workload here.

I often wonder why I am allowed to operate at all and even show up in Google searches (I'm not proud of that).

Also, I'm thinking about issuing monthly income reports here with screen shots, which would ensure transparency. This is not a business, but it does need support.

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Letsrock's avatar

It's really heartbreaking to hear.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

I am able to trade in kind services of drafting

and herbal tinctures, if those are are of any

use to you. Or songs on guitar or trombone.

You are across an ocean, are you not?

I am Oregon USA

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Oregon was a nightmare during the plandemic... I'm in rural Kentucky; only Louisville and Lexington were terrible, although medium-sized towns were also dangerous for us who refused to be muzzled.

Talking to my wife would get us further, because she is the one who can share information about the items with you. If you kindly respond to any notification e-mails with an article from me, I'll send you her e-mail address.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

PS still a nightmare here in Poortland, the cluelessness sooooooo deep and scheduled to be a 15 min city as well. I am glad to know of your general location, for your sake. I have been out here for 30 years, being from the burbs north of Detroit. As for where I may be in a few months, Diag-o-lon makes alot of sense, I will probably end up somewhere in it.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Oh, dear... Portland... Not that anyone around here will be spared. The time will come when a single bullet will be worth more than all the silver and gold around the world, and I don't mean that in a positive manner...

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

I can see why cannon balls and bb guns were invented, wrt making projectiles. Maybe our currency should just be balls of steel, to save time?!. I thought Kentucky would be kinda ok, because I heard Tenessee is kinda ok..where Fitts lives, she speaks well of Kentucky..dioxin fallout from Ohio and other spills would be my first worry. At least it's really obvious at this point how much our 'gov's want us dead, and have, all my life it seems, thinly veiled before and so blatent now.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

9mm/5/56 rounds will certainly pass for currency soon. :)

Rural KY is probably even better than TN, because all the poor people who live here are still believing in something greater than survival. That alone can take the poison teeth out of the snake's head.

When it comes to the poisoning, the trick might be to start using your own reserves, when the time comes; it should take more than six months at a time and no more than five years altogether. After the first few signs, it will be all clear, unless we are about to be killed all at once, which is not out of the question.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Sorry. I would never expect any financial support, because this site is for leaving some of my gratitude for my whole life. There are MANY people who have already passed and I cannot do anything about it.

As you are also pointing it out, it is the community is all that it takes.

I am about to post about your links, but as many authors do the same, my articles are usually unique in the sense I'm responding to the news.

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