The Voluntaryist approach is to "Dis-Engage" from any Statist system as much as possible and form new voluntary associations with no coercion. When enough of us do so, the current system will collapse.
We live in two worlds. The life world is social. We are born into a given family, in a given country, at a given time, generationally chained. We are also though persons. Our personality is spiritual and not chained unless we so choose. Thoreau famously spent a night in jail opposing the Mexican War. "Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison, the only house in a slave State in which a free man can abide with honor. They do not know how much truth is stronger than error, nor how much more eloquently and effectively he can combat injustice who has experienced a little in his own person. If the alternative is to keep all just men in prison, or give up war and slavery, the State will not hesitate which to choose."
Traditionally, humans undergo primary and secondary socialization. Their primary stage is determined by in their immediate environment before they reach full consciousness below the age of five. That determines their standards, including their "ethics."
Thoreau was a lucky bastard; in his days, the ones arrested were not fingerprinted, their DNA was not taken, and were not injected by anything (well, I'm not sure about that).
These days, all "civilized" states treat their "citizens" as commodities. They claim they own you and me. With the exception of eliminating such governments, what else could people do?
Is our life only this material existence of four score and 7 years? For where is the man that has incontestable evidence of the truth of all that he holds, or of the falsehood of all he condemns; or can say that he has examined to the bottom all his own, or other men's opinions? The necessity of believing without knowledge, nay often upon very slight grounds, in this fleeting state of action and blindness we are in, should make us more busy and careful to inform ourselves than constrain others. At least, those who have not thoroughly examined to the bottom all their own tenets, must confess they are unfit to prescribe to others; and are unreasonable in imposing that as truth on other men's belief, which they themselves have not searched into, nor weighed the arguments of probability, on which they should receive or reject it. Those who have fairly and truly examined, and are thereby got past doubt in all the doctrines they profess and govern themselves by, would have a juster pretence to require others to follow them: but these are so few in number, and find so little reason to be magisterial in their opinions, that nothing insolent and imperious is to be expected from them: and there is reason to think, that, if men were better instructed themselves, they would be less imposing on others.
It's all the funnier, because according to Genesis, human lifespan is no longer than 120 years, which, according to genetics, seems quite accurate.
Being Gnostic means either being stupid or being evil, but it can mean both.
"Knowledge" always depends on the initial premise; something I managed to devise at the age ot 17, when a teacher wanted to "prove" that God exists. He was a nasty bastard, so he made me think! :) For the same reason, ALL "medical" paradigms are based on faith, too. It doesn't matter what the "tenets" are, because they are all two-dimensional concepts (locked in a closed system based on the "tenet"), fit for the cognitive process without reflecting reality, which is an open system.
Pretty please, refrain from using "us," unless you define what you mean by that and you do it in every single comment. I'm sure you can do without it... It just bothers the heck out of me...
Locke is good, but humans can never be "good enough" to come out as an authority on knowledge. Certain principles and methods can be established and utilized, but they cover no more than 2-3% of what would be necessary to know even for developing a halfway-decent paradigm for what the world is and what a human being is.
That is Locke's proposition. In fact faith is foundation. Divinity is self evident. A given Divinity is not self evident but a proposition about such a spiritual existence can be elucidated. Darwinism explains nothing about human existence. Language cannot be explained by Darwinian metaphysics. Sprit cannot be explained by Darwinian metaphysics. Gnosticism means different things to different people. https://iep.utm.edu/gnostic/
Yes. While only morons would doubt that this world is the product of a creating force, the nature of the force can always be in doubt.
Gnosticism claims that full knowledge is possible (which is nonsense, because the human intellect can't comprehend structures that are more complex than itself), no matter who interprets it...
Darwin has no metaphysics, only a few guesses. Even the "survival of the fittest" is Spencer...
Rock it Ray! Darn humbling I say😎. I struggled through book ‘knowing and the known’ useful procedures for inquiry , Arthur Bentley and John Dewey. And yes, Darwin took from Spencer 😝 and popularized
One can provide for the basic necessities on their own without a l0t of money and there will always be bartering. I highly doubt the global elite can manage this unknowably large and complex goal, the chances a majority of people will volunteer for this grand scheme of the Galactic Empire, who will rebel. The scheme also requires an enormous amount of energy to implement in the face or diminishing EROEI. And the most laughable is once the people have next to no income to tax they will have to pay for all this themselves. *gasp*
This will fail. Their system will fail along with them. Prepare yourselves!
In a way, we are in the hands of God. As Franz Werfel also observed in Jeremias höret die Stimme, "it is a terrible thing to be placed on the palm of the living God," or something like that.
There will be many on the Wide Road, which will lead to damnation... So, there are...
Being a "rebel" can be as "simple" as not giving in to the temptations or threats of Evil. Still, the threat of death or torture can easily swing the ones who are still sitting on the fence. I am sure, if I was submitted to the slightest version of torture applied by "authorities," I would agree to anything and would even be willing to be transformed into a "woman," if that sort of thing would get me out of the torture chamber.
I love your optimism, but I still cannot see what it's based on. Please, explain!
It’s encouraging to read that many seem to grock the gobblist’s plan for humanity.
Waves of encouragement between the flashes of - oh yeah- magic weapons to find and eliminate the isolated hold outs.
Just yesterday negotiated with artist to be paid in alternative purchasing media!
She was thrilled- each little step can be helpful, new understandings bring new tactics to the table.
Hubby wants to pull IRA out of Vanguard, lovely elderly neighbor buddy,87, just informed me that he took out home equity loan to pay off his growing credit card debit. Planning on having a chat with him to see if we can assume the bank’s role. Ex Capital hill police, no children, wife passes 10 yrs ago. Great memory and stories he has. Knew funny business was going on Jan. 6. He still keeps in touch with the Gang up there .
May just be able to guarantee he stays in his home and bank does not own the home to be snarfed up for rental unit by the gobblers. And we could chose new neighbors- if of course he doesn’t out last us 😝
Ouch, that hurt. The neighbor is willing to risk his home for an unsecured credit card debt? Which planet does he live on?
He can still get homestead on his home, but in that case, home equity wouldn't work and once he has the secured the loan, he might not be able to get homestead... Either way, he has to act quickly. Depending on the state and his income, he might be eligible for Chapter 7, too. If he sticks to the current agreement, he will CERTAINLY lose his home...
He’s stupid about the bigger picture, when his wife passed he told me she encouraged using the home equity loans to buy treats🙄, travel fun etc. at that time I was stunned that after being in the home 30 yrs they still had 120k owed to bank.
Ugh. I have to dig legally deeper to know where he stands with it and details of how this transaction may happen.
Making someone else responsible for one's action is definitely a game. Many people are dying now, because they played that game against the "authorities," who told them to take the lethal injections...
Remember Ray, the globalist financier's best friends, the Military Industrial Complex with the revolving doors spinning faster than Max Verstappen's turbosupercharger. What a fantastic level of coordination between Big Global Intel and the "moneychangers." Self-reinforcing actually.
And if you won't play games, submit to the "Cartel," we will invade and replace you.
Win - Win for sure! Just ask Colonel Gaddafi or Seth Rich. Oh wait, you can't.
Ray, don't ever stop hammering on these points, I love repetitive, it is a surefire way to fight the disinformation/propaganda.
In a genuine democracy, unelected bureaucrats are supposed to serve at the pleasure of those elected by the people. And the elected are expected to represent and serve the interests of the voters and citizens. In the democratic pecking order, voters (the people) are the top dogs.
But in the “exceptional” Democracy we now experience here in America the arrows denoting the direction of authority have become inverted. The deep state bureaucracy is the undisputed Boss. Politicians serve the mob Bosses like servile lickspittle appointee’s and the American people are GMO corn and cannon fodder.
I beg to disagree. The so-called "Deep State," as far as I can see, is only part of the enforcers. Politicians are instructed as well, not sure by which of the two.
The Voluntaryist approach is to "Dis-Engage" from any Statist system as much as possible and form new voluntary associations with no coercion. When enough of us do so, the current system will collapse.
As they own and control everything, the ONLY thing will collapse is civilization.
And that is a bad thing?
It depends on the civilization. :)
Congratulations on your growing number of subscribers Ray.
Do you wonder if the time will come when you think that you have too many.
Look, I'm not here to make money, although a few people have been willing to contribute. My wife is greateful!
Yes, there will be a point, where I will have too many, and you will notice that, because I will dispappear and an AI will take over for me.
Good reply. ;)
I probably can't spot an AI though, but thanks for the advance notice.
Don't worry; I would need tens of thousands of readers in order to be "taken care of." It might never happen. :)
We live in two worlds. The life world is social. We are born into a given family, in a given country, at a given time, generationally chained. We are also though persons. Our personality is spiritual and not chained unless we so choose. Thoreau famously spent a night in jail opposing the Mexican War. "Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison, the only house in a slave State in which a free man can abide with honor. They do not know how much truth is stronger than error, nor how much more eloquently and effectively he can combat injustice who has experienced a little in his own person. If the alternative is to keep all just men in prison, or give up war and slavery, the State will not hesitate which to choose."
Traditionally, humans undergo primary and secondary socialization. Their primary stage is determined by in their immediate environment before they reach full consciousness below the age of five. That determines their standards, including their "ethics."
Thoreau was a lucky bastard; in his days, the ones arrested were not fingerprinted, their DNA was not taken, and were not injected by anything (well, I'm not sure about that).
These days, all "civilized" states treat their "citizens" as commodities. They claim they own you and me. With the exception of eliminating such governments, what else could people do?
Is our life only this material existence of four score and 7 years? For where is the man that has incontestable evidence of the truth of all that he holds, or of the falsehood of all he condemns; or can say that he has examined to the bottom all his own, or other men's opinions? The necessity of believing without knowledge, nay often upon very slight grounds, in this fleeting state of action and blindness we are in, should make us more busy and careful to inform ourselves than constrain others. At least, those who have not thoroughly examined to the bottom all their own tenets, must confess they are unfit to prescribe to others; and are unreasonable in imposing that as truth on other men's belief, which they themselves have not searched into, nor weighed the arguments of probability, on which they should receive or reject it. Those who have fairly and truly examined, and are thereby got past doubt in all the doctrines they profess and govern themselves by, would have a juster pretence to require others to follow them: but these are so few in number, and find so little reason to be magisterial in their opinions, that nothing insolent and imperious is to be expected from them: and there is reason to think, that, if men were better instructed themselves, they would be less imposing on others.
Locke
It's all the funnier, because according to Genesis, human lifespan is no longer than 120 years, which, according to genetics, seems quite accurate.
Being Gnostic means either being stupid or being evil, but it can mean both.
"Knowledge" always depends on the initial premise; something I managed to devise at the age ot 17, when a teacher wanted to "prove" that God exists. He was a nasty bastard, so he made me think! :) For the same reason, ALL "medical" paradigms are based on faith, too. It doesn't matter what the "tenets" are, because they are all two-dimensional concepts (locked in a closed system based on the "tenet"), fit for the cognitive process without reflecting reality, which is an open system.
Pretty please, refrain from using "us," unless you define what you mean by that and you do it in every single comment. I'm sure you can do without it... It just bothers the heck out of me...
Locke is good, but humans can never be "good enough" to come out as an authority on knowledge. Certain principles and methods can be established and utilized, but they cover no more than 2-3% of what would be necessary to know even for developing a halfway-decent paradigm for what the world is and what a human being is.
That is Locke's proposition. In fact faith is foundation. Divinity is self evident. A given Divinity is not self evident but a proposition about such a spiritual existence can be elucidated. Darwinism explains nothing about human existence. Language cannot be explained by Darwinian metaphysics. Sprit cannot be explained by Darwinian metaphysics. Gnosticism means different things to different people. https://iep.utm.edu/gnostic/
Yes. While only morons would doubt that this world is the product of a creating force, the nature of the force can always be in doubt.
Gnosticism claims that full knowledge is possible (which is nonsense, because the human intellect can't comprehend structures that are more complex than itself), no matter who interprets it...
Darwin has no metaphysics, only a few guesses. Even the "survival of the fittest" is Spencer...
Rock it Ray! Darn humbling I say😎. I struggled through book ‘knowing and the known’ useful procedures for inquiry , Arthur Bentley and John Dewey. And yes, Darwin took from Spencer 😝 and popularized
https://www.crisismagazine.com/2018/metaphysical-implications-darwinian-theory
One can provide for the basic necessities on their own without a l0t of money and there will always be bartering. I highly doubt the global elite can manage this unknowably large and complex goal, the chances a majority of people will volunteer for this grand scheme of the Galactic Empire, who will rebel. The scheme also requires an enormous amount of energy to implement in the face or diminishing EROEI. And the most laughable is once the people have next to no income to tax they will have to pay for all this themselves. *gasp*
This will fail. Their system will fail along with them. Prepare yourselves!
In a way, we are in the hands of God. As Franz Werfel also observed in Jeremias höret die Stimme, "it is a terrible thing to be placed on the palm of the living God," or something like that.
There will be many on the Wide Road, which will lead to damnation... So, there are...
Being a "rebel" can be as "simple" as not giving in to the temptations or threats of Evil. Still, the threat of death or torture can easily swing the ones who are still sitting on the fence. I am sure, if I was submitted to the slightest version of torture applied by "authorities," I would agree to anything and would even be willing to be transformed into a "woman," if that sort of thing would get me out of the torture chamber.
I love your optimism, but I still cannot see what it's based on. Please, explain!
I imagine just transcending my body if under torture.
That's what I sort of do if I have pain.
If these body snatchers got hold of one, they could transgender and inject away with or without any sort of concessional okay from torture.
Please, realize that they are pros! :) Nobody has been better in history. Everybody breaks...
I hardly offer optimism for those dependent on the system the fascists have produced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS57I6swXcc
Nice Jewish actress, but what's the point?
The fascists have produced the Galactic Empire, which of course, is a hallucination.
It’s encouraging to read that many seem to grock the gobblist’s plan for humanity.
Waves of encouragement between the flashes of - oh yeah- magic weapons to find and eliminate the isolated hold outs.
Just yesterday negotiated with artist to be paid in alternative purchasing media!
She was thrilled- each little step can be helpful, new understandings bring new tactics to the table.
Hubby wants to pull IRA out of Vanguard, lovely elderly neighbor buddy,87, just informed me that he took out home equity loan to pay off his growing credit card debit. Planning on having a chat with him to see if we can assume the bank’s role. Ex Capital hill police, no children, wife passes 10 yrs ago. Great memory and stories he has. Knew funny business was going on Jan. 6. He still keeps in touch with the Gang up there .
May just be able to guarantee he stays in his home and bank does not own the home to be snarfed up for rental unit by the gobblers. And we could chose new neighbors- if of course he doesn’t out last us 😝
Ouch, that hurt. The neighbor is willing to risk his home for an unsecured credit card debt? Which planet does he live on?
He can still get homestead on his home, but in that case, home equity wouldn't work and once he has the secured the loan, he might not be able to get homestead... Either way, he has to act quickly. Depending on the state and his income, he might be eligible for Chapter 7, too. If he sticks to the current agreement, he will CERTAINLY lose his home...
He’s stupid about the bigger picture, when his wife passed he told me she encouraged using the home equity loans to buy treats🙄, travel fun etc. at that time I was stunned that after being in the home 30 yrs they still had 120k owed to bank.
Ugh. I have to dig legally deeper to know where he stands with it and details of how this transaction may happen.
His pensions/retirement will fail soon, and he will become homeless...
Yep- he may not last that long- he also took the jabs like a good boy- despite info I provided him
Sounds like the sort to trust any sort of authority.
He wouldn't trust his own judgement and I don't imagine him trusting you.
He could end up blaming you.
Making someone else responsible for one's action is definitely a game. Many people are dying now, because they played that game against the "authorities," who told them to take the lethal injections...
Oh, well, nothing last forever...
Remember Ray, the globalist financier's best friends, the Military Industrial Complex with the revolving doors spinning faster than Max Verstappen's turbosupercharger. What a fantastic level of coordination between Big Global Intel and the "moneychangers." Self-reinforcing actually.
And if you won't play games, submit to the "Cartel," we will invade and replace you.
Win - Win for sure! Just ask Colonel Gaddafi or Seth Rich. Oh wait, you can't.
Ray, don't ever stop hammering on these points, I love repetitive, it is a surefire way to fight the disinformation/propaganda.
How could I forget? :)
Yes, the problem with becoming part of the gang is that you either adjust or will be eliminated.
In a genuine democracy, unelected bureaucrats are supposed to serve at the pleasure of those elected by the people. And the elected are expected to represent and serve the interests of the voters and citizens. In the democratic pecking order, voters (the people) are the top dogs.
But in the “exceptional” Democracy we now experience here in America the arrows denoting the direction of authority have become inverted. The deep state bureaucracy is the undisputed Boss. Politicians serve the mob Bosses like servile lickspittle appointee’s and the American people are GMO corn and cannon fodder.
Sorry, my bad. Of course, you and I agree that a good government serves the people, not the other way around.
The part we disagree on probably makes no difference from where we stand, anyway.
I beg to disagree. The so-called "Deep State," as far as I can see, is only part of the enforcers. Politicians are instructed as well, not sure by which of the two.
"exceptional," I like how you put that, Matthew.