I have seen websites destroyed by being swamped by lengthy and irrelevant comments, so if you want this site to last, please, consider the following.
It has become a MAJOR problem that lots of topics are raised that do not pertain to the subject of the article. I am guilty, because I started to participate in such conversations previously, but I won’t be able to do it any longer.
I guess, it is because my time is limited, I haven’t done it, but people are coming up with several good topics that I must start separately in order to keep discussions on the subject. Swamping a comment section with irrelevant comments, no matter how interesting they are, deters good commenters, and eventually readers, in the long run.
Would you like to suggest topics for which I can start up articles for discussions?
Comment here or respond to the e-mail about any of my posts:
Please, start or request a new article on the subject, if you are interested. You can initiate it, after all, because you have your own Substack, and just insert links here, whenever applicable. It's a waste of your resources to comment after an article that is not about your topic. Shall I re-post some of my previous ones for this conversation?
Patient Number One in Washington state was in December 2019 when it was first disclosed to the public. He had not traveled out of the country. The releases at each of these named locations correspond to government laboratories and military bases. (Milan, Fort Detrick, Ottawa, Wellcome, Wuhan, etc). These labs participated and speculation asserts that the weaponized SARS-CoV-2 was simultaneously released on demand points to the conclusion that it was the first of two bioweapons, the second being the vaccines. Fauci is a Jesuit and his handlers lead back to the Black Pope, and the Pallavicini families, Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood, and Soros with his mob from the WEF and Gates organizations participating in Event201. It's useful to trace the blood samples as described in this article, even though there are issues with the sequencing of the corona virus due to the computer simulation used to generate the Wuhan model.
Ray, I apologize for making a mess in your own home, and making you clean up my mess.
How rudely and inconsiderate I behaved, in regards to the peaceful feel that normally presides here.
I am all too human, and occasionally lose my patience, but I overstepped the polite, sensible boundaries in my reaction to dear Lynn, to which I also offer this as a sincere apology, and will extend the olive branch.
Perhaps this war is getting to me, in that I perceive that I am quicker to be riled by what I would normally overlook.
I have checked myself!
Back to the old, surly Marcus that no one loves, but that no one hated, either, to the best of my knowledge... 🙊
I was just going to quit commenting or responding to comments after reading that last one you made directed toward me. If you are genuinely sincere in offering that olive branch; then I will accept it. We may not agree upon how to best approach this dilemma, but I do want to feel comfortable and safe in exploring our options. Let bygones be bygones. Carry on...
I took this very seriously and personally until I read above. I can understand how it was possible to choose a convenient target after all that we have collectively been subjected to for decades and centuries. I am a 66 year old woman and I want to console you for the hurt you've felt by the betrayal of bankers and these elite globalists; we all have been under considerable pressure. I never expected the type of response from you no matter how much we disagreed about potential approaches for resolution.
Thanks for your consolation, and though it may show as poor character, I was (shameful as it is to admit) under the impression that you were of the male persuasion, and though it may not be p.c.(not that I really concern myself overly with any of such stipulations), I do not think I would have taken such a tone, had I been aware of such, not that it made a huge difference - as people are people, after all, and respect should not be so regimented, at least in a better world!
This forum belongs to you as much as it belongs to me. As long as mutual respect is exercised to each other (anyone is more welcome to abuse me verbally, it cannot hurt me) and the subject is being discussed without unnecessary verbosity that scares readers/commenters away, I am happy. In fact, I am about to do something about that, because it looks like my site is up in the next gear, and I don't want it to be killed by bots talking nonsense. :)
Once you are called names, it is only fair to return the favor, although I don't care for vulgarities, which you never used.
I always give people the benefit of doubt and warn them first, and never had to ban anyone.
No worries Ray! I could be wrong but Mexico, El Salvador, Thai, Columbia, Japan, etc have some stability in some ways, no crt, no trans, no satan billboards, no infighting, econ works as well as it did. Again, at least to buy time. I've been in my place > 30 years whatever comes at me will at least be part of a system I'm familiar with, but yes things overall seem bleak.
Mexico is gangland for better or worse. Don't know much about El Salvador, but an American is probably not exactly welcome there, unless (s)he speaks the language, which happens to be quite localized. The same applies to Columbia, and you have to REALLY know where you are relatively safe there, even if you are a local. I do understand that what the US calls "drug lords" are CIAO associates and "mafias" might simply comprise those, who refuse to accept illegitimate governments (after all, by now, about half of the US population are considered "potential t*ists" by the usurping government (not only this one, this has been going on for at least since the end of the War of Northern Aggression). Japan cannot even feed itself; too many people (actually, the same is true of the Philippines). Costa Rica and a few islands in the Caribbean might be somewhat feasible. I like Uruguay for its cultural homogeneity, but it comes with its own version of Spanish, and it went through all the globalist mandates...
I have customers in these countries and they are not following mandates or lockdowns and still have freedoms. The guy in Columbia said he sees no crime and people are nice there and he moved to Thai and similar. In Japan, my guy says everyone works, no lockdowns, supermarkets are full of stuff and restaurants are in full swing. The TV covid propaganda is ongoing and 85% of people are vaxed and masked up but there are few restrictions and no mandates. Still, as you say its just a matter of time.
At the end of the day, there is No-where "safe" to run to; The entire planet is subject to this shit show (eventually) and running only prolongs the inevitable;
Frankly, i couldn't think of any worse scenario than to be in a place where i have no idea about the (rules) lay of the land;
At least where i stand i know where i will fall, if indeed i do succumb to the beast;
I know who my enemies are and i would hate to be in a position where i needed to ask somebody i don't know at all for direction or help of some kind
Good morning Vietnam! Great exercises here about this problem. Personally I’ve been diversifying with heavy on the AU, but it’s all for nothing without a rule of law. Human ingenuity, flexibility and not tail dragging with our various antecedent realities is perhaps a beginning.
These great communications here are a wonderful start in what may be, I think IS, an upgrade in human doings, thinkings and being. Silly me, I’ve been chomping at the bit to chime in here yet have end o month and end o year to tie up and tuck in.
This is an excellent (and surprisingly engaging, given the topic!) animated video overview of CBDC, with many likely use case scenarios that will not only educate the unaware, but also scare the hell out of them. If it doesn’t, then they deserve their fate.
I think that it is certain that bitcoin was set up as a trial for the CBDCs whether by the military or by the big bankers. Bitcoin also is not anonymous and it most certainly isn't "perfect money" nor is it done without an oversight committee who decides on bitcoin policy (so I disagree with Brian below). It also takes 20 minutes to transact with and has very high transaction fees whether you go with the likes of coinbase/binance or with one of the exchanges with other bitcoin owners (the second requires depositing money in a bank account so can take 24 hours or more and is therefore problematic due to the volatility of bitcoin).
So why are the old communist countries buying up gold for then?
I think you could luck out on Crypto btw. There's a lot of countries trialing out shitcoins so if one of them commits to it there will be a surge of interest before everyone realised the bit bros are full of shit.
When it was $2k, I recommended to my wife to buy Bitcoin and it nearly hit $100k later (I probably would have sold it at $50k), but she decided against it, and you know what the secret of a good marriage is, right? :)
These days, I wouldn't buy crypto, because there are signs of controlled demolition of cryptos, which also corroborates that they were started up by those "high above" ordinary mortals. :)
It’s so hard to sell when you are flying high… 😕 I wish I had sold my Solana when it was over $200! It sure does seem like someone is trying to wreck cryptocurrency right now with Luna imploding, Celsius down, Gemini and their earnings program down… FTX and that money laundering debacle! 🙄 Sure seems suspicious to me… The banking cartel and our government DONT want us to have control of our own money! That’s for sure! 😡
But, if I had some money right now, I would still buy Bitcoin… Ethereum… Polygon… It is at the bottom of the bear market right now… buy low… Sell high! I would dollar cost average in and then hold for a couple of years… I made rookie mistakes when I first got in… Now, I’m paying the price 😑😑😑 but I will be much smarter next time!
I think Bitcoin isn't worth anything so figure it does have a long way to go, all the way down. Don't really know those other ones that you mention, there's so many of the damned things. Ethereum is hovering around 1300 at the moment right? That might have some bounce in it. I know that the National Australia Bank (Australia's biggest and ugliest bank) is trying out XRP so that's the one I'm in on.
Please disregard my last two sentences. I had to go put the chickens away and somehow They wrote themselves.
Anyway, Gold and Silver are great as trading utilities, but if you have not read Michael Saylor’s arguments about Bitcoin, I recommend checking them out for a brilliant tour de force summation. I like Monero, I think it offers more privacy. I think the value of Bitcoin and Monero lie particularly in the invention of “trustless” exchanges. A good case can be made for them as a new human invention of a perfect money, especially where money is being considered as a utility. Their value is still being worked out in the market. Regarding Gold, the argument of FOFOA about the theory of “freegold” is very interesting. The way gold has traditionally been used by “the Giants” to ensure multigenerational fortunes far out into the future beyond huge changes like World Wars, etc. Most of us don’t qualify to have such problems, of course.
I think that real wealth is a simple condition of having enough peaceful safety for focusing on creative production of goods and being able to widely and delightfully trade those goods. Gold has traditionally been valuable in trade at scale over long distances because of its practical trade use and portability, its divisibility, universal acceptability to other traders in all other places, etc. It is really ready to start? I did not sure.
The Real Wealth that you mention is/would be great in a idealistic world where people were good, but we are witnessing the collapse of all that would allow for such wealth as the"peaceful safety" you mention.
I endeavor to shout from the rooftops, and whisper from ear to ear, this message of the coming onslaught, not to pull the rug out from anyone's good intent, or to scare the little ones, but in hopes that such are not setting theirselves up for failure, or helping to build a corrosive la-la land as a shoddy replacement for the former system, that is now failing (or being felled).
Without a prominent ideology, no civilization can survive. After that is ensured, the mandatory five castes must be established in order to secure stability:
"Old Grumpy" says that the only way to proceed with dignity, is by a deliberate, concentrated withdrawal from this failing system.
What has worked for me is to "pretend" that civilization is already wiped out.
You are Mad Max, and you cannot eat gold or ether-currency. No one but weirdos with gold fever are going to be trading a near-useless metal for valuable commodities, and when the electric juice has been shut off, or has dried up, where will that leave all of this technological gadgetry that relies on such?
For a brief moment, I will leave the Spirit out of the equation, and will allow for a human being that is so very keen, and knowledgeable in the ways of procurement of life's necessities, that no money is ever needed, as it is useless except to those that have zero real life skills, and must rent/buy their existence from those sharp enough to deliver "the goods".
In the case of a long and gradual regression to pre-industrial life, where the befuddled masses are kept scraping by, slaving away to keep a roof overhead, and food in the belly, with the weakest dying off, as prey to savages, or from their own lack of sense, and the jack-booted hirelings are out protecting their wealthy overlords, only those willing to forego the soft life of luxury (luxuries being electricity, running water, a/c, refrigeration, processed food, microwaves, TV, computer, toilet, lights, batteries, toilet paper, pens, automobiles, bicycles, clothing, shoes, personal care products, ammunition, medication, pet food, and you get The Drift, I pray) will escape with a semblance of their dignity, or so I hold to be the case.
Otherwise, unless one be a genius of sorts, and can "do it all", like certain polymaths, most will be in the incredibly awkward position of being easily coerced to burn incense to Caesar in exchange for one's daily bread, or of being a violent rogue, perhaps banding together with other heathens for a measure of safety, that MAY be had in numbers (absolutely no guarantee, there), or one might be spared by taking a quick exit to the comforts offered by euthanasia camps.
Or (now comes Spirit!), one might be able to develop a genuine relationship with the force of life, the same Force that compels one's body to heal it's own wounds as one sleeps, and that has allowed for the very Earth that we dwell upon, and for the mysterious nature of our amazing ability to "think", and "love", and to "breathe", and to walk, and talk, and laugh... all of which is so very easy to take for granted. Not so, here soon.
Consider well the available options, only after some serious reflection upon this notion- Life, and having hopefully already gotten one's relatively ephemeral ducks in a row, and then proceed forth with all the guts that you can muster.
Life is simply not for the faint of heart, if I may observe. We have all been strung along with this fictional "life", and this is The Time to address such nonsense as we have come to accept, because there really is no promise I, or any other human being can hope to keep, in regards to making it all better, for one's self, or any other, deny it all you may.
It must always start with the individual's resolution to decide to pick up his own reins, that is, for those who are not willing to be puppets on strings.
Try imaging that your house and all possessions have been burned to cinders.
Are you going to cry and carry on, or are you going to be able to give thanks for what remains - your own life - and then readily picking up the pieces, and progressing onward, to new and potentially uncomfortable horizons?
I try and allow for individuality, as life is not so cookie-cutter perfect (thank heaven), and I know without a doubt that every single one of us alive have hidden talents, just waiting for discovery; but I also know that for all of our entire lives, a wicked, underlying current has been steadily misguiding the generations, so as to produce these weak, dependant feeders, easily manoeuvred- as easily as the Bishop takes the King.
For even mighty and powerful men fall, and all the quicker when they lack Faith in the Greater Aspects which sustains them. No one is a "self-made" man, which notion is pure bosh!
I know where my salvation is rooted, and I hope for a similar development to occur within my extended Human family, as I believe That to be the most important, critical, necessary aspect of a life well-lived.
Blessings and Warmth to comfort you all these dark days to come.
Interesting book: “How the Irish Saved Civilization.” Monk-scholars fled to the sticks. Communities formed around them. Knowledge was preserved through the Dark Ages in Europe.
How will this really play out? All the way to pre-electricity? I think I am going to fabricate a wood gasifier to get electricity from wood to run my shop if I need to. What I don’t see is anybody trying to sketch out a vision that takes into account, for the USA, what happens in the next few months-years when a couple hundred million vaxxed people set sail for the promised land, leaving behind all their stuff? I think a lot of people are going to be smartening up really fast!
Regarding “ Spirit” have you read About Cabeza de Vaca? Interesting story. He arrived in Florida as a would-be Conquistador. Only problem was the Indians kicked their asses in the beach. Only two survivors. Cabeza ran overland and did an involuntary John the Baptist thing, starving in the wild until captured by Indians. Given an ultimatum to heal the chief’s daughter overnight he found “Spirit” such that he healed her and crossed to California on foot, passing from tribe to tribe. Returning to the “soft life” back in Spain, he lost his healing abilities.
Another interesting resource is Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History Podcasts, especially the episode about the Anabaptists in Germany after Martin Luther had the Bible translated into common German and printed up on Gutenburg’s printing presses. Whole lotta interpretations of the Bible sprang into being with some pretty violent arguments between adherents of different, shall we say, “cults” who were sure of their particular interpretations/leaders and willing to die and kill.
The interpretations of the "bible" are what have kept mankind at war with one another for eons; while paradoxically they all scream "our way is peace" from over the fence;
Religion is the root of most evil in my humble opinion; Religion is the biggest business in the world; Religion is where false idols are created and worshiped; Religion[s] are naught but legitimate cults that feed on the sorrow and guilt of the helpless;
In God there is spirit; In us there is God; this is not Religion; this is belief in "something" greater than all of us
Yes, the worldly clutter has sent the most of the world to scrambling, and even should the Pax Romana have been the real deal, there will likely be a few that will be suspicious (and rightly so) of the promise of a Utopia.
De-centralized. Organically local. Open Source. Bank on yourself.
PURPOSE: Dollar-sized ArtWorks used as advertising and gifted into the local economy. To be used by businesses and citizenry … to trade.
CONSUMER Instructions
1. Use ArtWork as you would cash for dinner, coffee, soda, tips, a massage, health care, child care, & more. Ask the community business if they take the ArtWork.
2. You may receive ArtWork in your change when buying a product locally, as a gift for a birthday, as a tip for a job well done, & more.
3. Closer to the expiration date (find date on the ArtWork), turn it back to the owner of the ArtWork and they will give you cash or more-than-equivalent services or products.
4. The more ArtWork is passed for exchange in the community before it is turned in, the more sustainable the community economy!
Get real…. Spend ArtWork…. Go local.
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OWNER::BUSINESS instructions
Why use ArtWork as local exchange in Advertising:
--Get people talking about what you are doing.
--Use your advertising budget locally.
--Subtract the cost of your ArtWork as advertising.
--Watch people smile & laugh when “playing” with your “funny money”.
How to get started:
--Pay a small amount to a local artist for the ArtWork. Or make your own.
--Set aside an amount of cash to pay the “reward” for the return of the ArtWork. (You also may barter for the ArtWork with services or product.)
--Write or pay a writer to add:
1. Your business & slogan & offerings.
2. Your area of “good within ___miles of your place of business”.
3. Expiration date. Usually 3-6 months.
--Give your ArtWorks away.
1. You can only spend ArtWork other than your own.
2. Offer as a thank you to: Regulars, High pay customers, Bonuses &
Perks, Friends & Family, Lovers.
When the ArtWork is presented back to you
--Give cash or
--Give services or
--Give a product.
Keep gifting it out until closer to the expiration date.
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ARTIST instructions
1. You may
--Make your own ArtWork to advertise you and your business. OR
--Be commissioned to make ArtWork for someone else to advertise.
--Do one or the other because the Kindly-Tizing ArtWork is Open Source, meaning the ArtWork is not copyrighted. K-TAW believes in a gift society and a healthy local economy.
2. If you are commissioned to produce an ArtWork for someone else:
--You may sell your labor and supplies. Once a business, person, or a not-for-profit owns the ArtWork then the ArtWork totally belongs to them. They must set aside the “reward money” to exchange by the expiration date.
3. If you create the ArtWork for yourself to advertise yourself:
--You are the owner. When you own the ArtWork, you are the one who must set aside the “reward money” to exchange by the expiration date. The Owner must give ArtWork away as a gift to the community economy.
--You may take the cost of ArtWork off your income for advertising.
4. The Owner of the ArtWork must give/gift it away during the time period.
Many other systems use hours as their base, because everyone has time as a measure of their productivity. There are challenges to resolve with these systems which is why I mentioned enhancements. Consideration for those who are disabled, criminals, and those who expect a free ride must be addressed. ITEX continues to function largely due to being global , given a local economy may not be large enough to meet people's needs adequately like Ithaca. Many more variables need to be part of the process, including wide acceptance without the input from external systems like cash or credit.
Tiny problem, Art, is only produced and executed when there is leisure time in a community. I think we will go through a period of - got a rake, got a shovel....etc
Actually, in traditional communities, art serves the prominent ideology.
Only communities with a prominent ideologies will have a breathing chance, so "art" is not going to be completely dead, although it probably won't pay well and the artist will have to do some other work, too. Building another Sixtus Chapel, if it ever happens, will come much later. :)
"Art" in traditional communities usually serves ceremonial or cultic purposes. As long as you can find such a community, your plan might actually work.
Well Astrid, even giving you the benefit of the doubt that you just don't know what you are up against, this just isn't the best of ideas. Marcus and Mark gave you a routing, but in content they are correct.
If society isn't completely dead, then making trusting relationships in an Agora that is big enough to sustain itself may work a bit. In a dystopia it needs to focus on things people need like the big 4: food, energy, shelter, water, etc. In the meanwhile I'd get all your $ out of the bank because its value is going to crash and may be bailed-in. Buy things that fit with with the big 4 like real estate with farm space, solar panels, water purifiers, and an off-grid survival book. Maybe renters who are in the system can pay rent with goods and services. Still if their are drones or UN troop after your ass, not much besides living in hidden underground bunkers in New Zealand will help. Oh, that's exactly what the elites are doing.
In any form of "community," my problem is to maintain peace among the members and security for the group. Without a unifying ideology ("culture"), no community can survive, and that is a MAJOR problem.
The "elites," as far as I can see, own islands around NZ, but their lackeys will live in underground facilities (which can be easily turned into death camps for the same inhabitants, once they have served their purpose).
My impression is that living off-grid, 2-3 warm bodies (including a dog) might still not alert the satellites with infrared sensors, so the drones would stay away. Off-grid survival, however, requires large areas per capita for survival, which doesn't look pretty.
You are correct about everything Ray. Personally, I'm planning an on- and off-grid fusion. Renters paying me in goods and services and paying the property tax as part of rent (I've already confirmed this is all legal where I live-so far), having my own no-loan home, solar panels, and renting a small veggie garden the renters can pay for, and also growing and making seeds myself using tower gardens in a small green house on my roof that is flat. The plan started in 2020 is more than half way thru. Of course getting most all the money out of the bank is part of the plan. I'm not against joining a bartering group/agora, I suppose I can always quit it. Well, any plan needs to have adaptability and a trial and a error element in it. I suppose some of this plan will at least buy time.
If I was poor I might try to work on a farm for room and board.
"paying the property TAX"........i say this with due respect but pfffft;
people continuing to pay for what they already own is a HUGE part of the problem we have right now;
where does that "TAX" money go?; it goes to keeping you as a slave to the very people (loose term) that you pay your "taxes" to;
that same "money" also goes towards the digital surveillance being rolled out across every piece of land on this earth to keep you (i, us, we, all) under control;
facial recognition, plate readers, biometric scanners, heat sensors....blah blah bloody blah, is all being used to track your every move;
"this is all LEGAL"....... seriously? this is another HUGE part of the con job that has been instilled onto Mankind; LEGAL is for the Corporate/Maritime world my friend; it is basically the "rules" that the members of the board/ships crew have to abide by; Perhaps you have heard Klauss (anal) Schwab use the term "rules based order"?; there is method to the sickos madness; he is telling you (all of us) that Corporations will be the controllers of mankind in plain english; we pretty much already have "rules based order" as most Government[s] are bonafide Corporations masquerading as Government. so are the courts, the police, the council and on it goes; Nothing "they" do is Lawful;
Lawful is where you, i and every other lost soul have inalienable rights, not only under God, but within the founding documents of our nation[s] and the Constitutions thereof; Natural Law and Common Law is where we once were and "modern" (read late 1800's to early 1900's) Nations were far more prosperous and "productive" than they are now; why you ask? well people did not pay TAX just to be able to elk out a living for a start; there were no "professional politicians" (read leeches of Our Fruits) as the breed were not recognised within Our Constitutions; Leaders were just that, Leaders of the people who worked for the people and to impose the will of the people; They helped guide the building of "communities" and "cities" not by force, but :WITH: the people;
Laws are what is meant to keep the LEGAL fraternity at checks and balances, as it is for all of us; Our Law[s] have been usurped from the people and hidden under the guise of LEGAL(ESE)
Yes the ideology of Tax is pffft, but the reality is to do something to survive. Leaving the money in the bank is like leaving your head in a mouse trap. I don't live in a country that is falling apart like the US and while the "dark side" is here many social structures are unchanged still. The amount of prop tax is only about 10% of the yearly rent. The renters will have to play the social credit score game, or they will have to play another game to pay me in goods and services, if they cant I get other renters, but the condo is an actual thing of value assuming people can own property. Taking our property will take more time if they can even and while I'm buying time I can get into other types of a bartering system, farming, hiding, who knows what but it's better to be the last to fall off the sinking ship not the first. You have lots of good ideas, I would like to see concrete and plausible ideas from you and the other good folks on the comments.
Sorry, but my impression is that ALL countries are under controlled demolition, only the timing varies.
Ten percent is a LOT for property taxes... Over here, I am paying about three percent for my small house. Anyway, prop txes must be fought teeth and nail.
If the system prohibits the tenants to pay for you, which it will, then it's game over. If you are allowed to have a CBDC account, that's where they will be allowed to pay, and if your payment is accepted to PT, it's all good. Still, it's a good question if you will be allowed to rent out anything. After all, according to the plan, "you will own nothing."
No farming after the bees and the Sun are gone, and both are in the works.
Most people don't have skills to barter, and their reserves will run out or they will be even get robbed, if not killed for having reserves. I think, those who can make it for the five years of shortages et al. will win, but that's only my opinion.
Refusing to acknowledge the legitimacy of hijacked governments is the first logical step. Issuing a currency with intrinsic value must be the next. Who will/can do it, even if they could start with a clean slate?
Playing for time is all one can do. Sooner or later, all back doors will be closed, and the only question is which side will outlast the other. My estimate is five years until the globalist empire expires, but until then, they will be vicious in any way imaginable and unimaginable. Apparently, it's still at the rehearsal stage, and it looks like it's being delayed, so the show might not start up before 2025, but even this winter was/is suspicious, and it's not over.
The best news I'd think you could hear, is that you're still breathing, so you have a chance for redemption, if you are willing to take it; and then of course you must USE the time afforded you to get cracking.
Chances are it will be 1800 again. Coal plants could be started up, but it's unpredictable if there will be anyone still living and able to cope with the task.
For comic relief, I fixed Darwin's Theory of Evolution:
Art is pleasing, and surely has it's place, but really- this seems so incredibly ludicrous to me, except for in a liberal la-la land, and I really do say this without aim to offend.
Although, only a really mean son of a monster will likely kill you for trying to trade your art for his ....... (fill in the blank).
I do not know what picture forms in your mind, but I just find it very difficult to grasp any seriousness to this business you mention, as it seems possible only in a soft, friendly world of fiction.
It is a concept based upon a gift society that will only work on a decentralized micro level. It’s a work in progress and can only be implemented if the shit really hits the fan. It’s also completely open to anyone who wants to change it for better and hopefully not worse.
So am i to expect that "if i trade my stored (meat, eggs, vegetables et al.) for your "art" that somehow your "art" is going to make my life secure?:
Am i going to be able to find shelter in your art so that it may protect me from the elements?;
Am i going to be able to fashion tools of survival from said art?:
The only substance your art might have in "the real world" where the strong survive and the weak go begging, is perhaps to use it as a fire starter IF i am stranded in a forest without kindling of some sort;
Please, stay away from me; i have absolutely no use for your "art"; content yourself with painting pretty pictures or sculpting or whatever it is you call "art" and find out how little value your art holds when you face starvation or freezing to death
Honestly Lynn? what is the "intrinsic value" of a work of art?
I can just about guarantee you that if the last man standing in the Vatican has not eaten a thing for a week, i could probably find myself fortunate enough to swap my bowl of porridge for the entire "art collection", including the gold clad walls; If i pushed the point, i could insist that last being clean the place before i move in
It’s just an idea. Can’t change things without imagining alternatives. I’m fully open to the fact that it could be a complete wash. But, someone might take it, change it and run with it.
I live outside of Woodstock and I’m considered a crazy hippy artist by my family. I’ll own it.
2. Hippy with at least some practical ideas on the front burner.
3. A conservative with no practical ideas
4. A conservative with practical ideas.
5. Some mix of these.
If you are a hippy, I suggest you be #2. I don't think myself, Mark, or Marcus would fault you one bit if you are a Hippy or if you want to do art IN ADDITION to ideas on how to to live and thrive.
CBDC will not give people money to buy art, and they will not barter for art when they need items to just survive. Do you not understand that you are in the middle of a genocide and the roll-out of a fascistic technocracy?
I can be many many things without tying myself to any one concept.
And of course I realize we are in the middle of a huge technocratic takeover. I’ve been watching it unfold for decades.
I’m also thinking that you are not actually reading the whole concept. The art is just a vehicle for banking on yourself. I chose art and advertising because at this point in time neither is taxable. Who ever chooses to participate in the system has to be willing to gift the “art” into the local community. The initial idea came from Native American potlatch.
Right, serious about the importance given to life, by a power beyond any religion I have heard of.
But what does it mean, living out in the "boonies"? Never heard of any before. Living in a small country I see no way of withdrawing from the process. I would if I could.
With no offense intended towards the various practitioners of the world's religions, I feel that all of them, without exception, were created only to commander and cloak over the generally ethereal nature of the Holy eternal Spirit, and to dole out a blasphemous and perverted version, replete with all the pomp and vulgar displays to keep those that would suffer such indignities in hypnotized awe, and NOTHING ELSE.
No one may "profit" from the Spirit's gifts in such a way, and I hold them to be valuable only in the light of people being woken up to the charade, and seeking higher, and that is a rather rare occurrence; in fact, I think it is more likely that frog turn into a bird, or a boy turn into a girl (uh-oh).
The Spirit works against those who try to "profit" by it but the profiteers are above noticing. That has brought the world into the abyss. We have to dismantle them, so I feel, more than the systems of science, politics, education, health care etc. The latter being only the worm-eaten fruits from the well-known tree. The axe must hit the roots now. Even our self-selected dicatorships could not reinstall the old normal if they wanted to, given that it was and has been the opposite of what the Spirit demands.
Truth does not need to conquer through us though (the presumption of it!). All we have to do is bow down to her as she is the manifestation of the Spirit that has breathed the life into us.
I agree. This chart, while a goodly proximation of the Power Grid as seen by most, is to be found lacking severely, in that it does not show the Vatican above all of the rest, as "we" are not supposed to know anything about such...
And are definitely not ever supposed to talk about it.
It will crash down relatively soon, but not as soon as several "in the know" would have it.
I plan to clearly witness as much as my senses will allow for, and to tear down what is abominable where I am able; and really, there is nothing to construct- though most will likely disagree with me on that point.
Well, thank you for the chart. I saved it in order to train myself in what some propose to do to humanity.
When the Spirit has been too much trampled upon, it shows itself as a welter of evils. This she has been doing now for a long time without anyone paying much attention.
Yet for all the harm it may achieve, and we have had full measures of harm, evil has no substance. It's the veil that covers the true face of what IS, always has been and always will be. Of which we may be part or may refuse to be part. That's our choice. Something infinite is at stake in our lives. Something that makes the difference between great ones and small fry laughable.
"Boonies" is a slang term for the country, also "sticks".
Yes-- the Netherlands would drive me out of my skull, with the size, the flatness (much of the space being below sea level, I understand), and the Dutch, of which I am not overly fond, generally ...
I feel you.
Perhaps you live very hand-to-mouth, there, by the telling.
I can admire and appreciate that type of life, as I too live much the same, only rurally.
I feel I know exactly what you mean, as for there being no room for fear, after having been ignited by this wonderful Force that rooted me in the fertile soil.
Now for the Real work, of growing correctly, which is a pleasure- even in the face of This Mess- to partake of such a epic struggle as we face.
I am heartened, in that you are not a vagabond roaming the "slums" of Amsterdam!
Thanks for the invitation anyway. Not being a tourist in this world I do not travel on aeroplanes. My flights I perform on the wings of fancy. A word from a brother or sister in distant parts is most welcome.
Omg, I am SO HAPPY you put this question out there. For the longest time, I have been asking goldbugs how I can practically use gold when SHTF (defined any way you like). I understand that traditionally, it’s been a way to retain wealth. Agreed. But these are not traditional tomes. Barter? Ok, I get that, but it’s still troublesome to figure out exchange value. Is a gas station going to take gold coins to fill up my gas tank? Maybe. So barter might work on some level. But I can’t pay my mortgage or my utility bills with gold - or crypto either - if those entities on the receiving end won’t accept it (or are most likely incentivized/threatened NOT to). All you need to look at is cabal of censorship to know that could happen for transactions. In order to transact with my gold/crypto, I’d have to exchange it for what is accepted to keep my house and keep the heat and lights on. I sure as hell am not exchanging it for CBDC.
We know TPTB want us to own nothing and control everything. Why do we think they’d allow us to retain any semblance of wealth with crypto or precious metals? All these years of gold pushing commercials may be playing right into their hands when they eventually outlaw ownership.
I have been racking my brain on how we avoid what’s no doubt coming, but I’m coming up empty. These psychopaths have war-gamed this for a long time. Even worse, there’s a large segment of the (younger) population who are happily sleepwalking into their own digital prisons all in the name of convenience.
All that is a longwinded way to say I have no answer to your question. 😊 At the very least, I’ve realized that it will be critical to form local communities of like minds with various and complementary resources and skills to support each other - not online, but in *real life.* I’ve committed to help facilitate getting people together in 2023.
What is wealth? is the question i have been asking myself for a long time, way before this "plandemic" and the fallout from it started; i have never been a total slave to the machine;
I have no need for the biggest or most convenient house on the street; i NEED 1 toilet, 1 shower, 1 stove/oven, 1 bed, and 1 roof over my head; everything else i have in my life are just "things" to keep me amused, apart from my tools which actually do have purpose but have also been used to keep me amused;
My failing body is where i feel "poor".........time and previous injuries have not been kind (and so has this relatively easy life) BUT i can still do what NEEDS to be done, even if i need a good lay down after "it" is done;
Being healthy is as wealthy as one could reasonably expect to be in my opinion;
Having the ability to "fend for yourself" when called upon is also very rich; what are the so-called "wealthy" going to do when their "money" is worthless and the only way they can help themselves is to "buy" help?;
ask yourself.....am i able to fashion my own shelter if i need to (even if that means erecting a tent)?, can i find water and a way to store water if i need to?, can i gather/hunt for food if i need to?, do i know how to prepare a "carcass" so i can safely consume it if i have to?, can i fashion fire?, can i cook?, can i protect myself from those that wish me harm?
Yes, money has been seen as a necessity in the modern age but when all is said and done, that "money" has been used to buy all the items we have asked ourselves above
Excellent! One's health is surely a most important asset in our kit, but the will to persevere can triumph where poor health may lack- Mind over Matter.
This money idea has been the biggest part of humanity's downfall, I feel correct in saying.
I have seen websites destroyed by being swamped by lengthy and irrelevant comments, so if you want this site to last, please, consider the following.
It has become a MAJOR problem that lots of topics are raised that do not pertain to the subject of the article. I am guilty, because I started to participate in such conversations previously, but I won’t be able to do it any longer.
I guess, it is because my time is limited, I haven’t done it, but people are coming up with several good topics that I must start separately in order to keep discussions on the subject. Swamping a comment section with irrelevant comments, no matter how interesting they are, deters good commenters, and eventually readers, in the long run.
Would you like to suggest topics for which I can start up articles for discussions?
Comment here or respond to the e-mail about any of my posts:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/do-not-swamp-my-comment-sections
An essay on this crypto/ CBDC/ vs gold topic plus a bit of history. :) from Mathew Pippenberg
Silly Attention grabbing headline is compliments of the gold bug website
https://kingworldnews.com/buckle-up-the-terrifying-great-global-reset-is-about-to-begin/
I doubt there will be much, if anything, that will horrify me Marcus;
If the Devil were to reveal itself in my own yard i wouldn't flinch; I'm pretty certain that i am on the enemies list and of that, i am proud
I have a question. In the last few days, you have been taking over whole comment sections on my site. What do you want to accomplish?
How do you have time for all this? I certainly don't.
2019 https://dailysceptic.org/2022/12/30/the-evidence-covid-19-was-spreading-silently-around-the-world-in-late-2019/
Dr Alan Keyes ttps://www.brighteon.com/68dcd732-c9fb-438c-be45-6fdf103c4d58
Please, start or request a new article on the subject, if you are interested. You can initiate it, after all, because you have your own Substack, and just insert links here, whenever applicable. It's a waste of your resources to comment after an article that is not about your topic. Shall I re-post some of my previous ones for this conversation?
Patient Number One in Washington state was in December 2019 when it was first disclosed to the public. He had not traveled out of the country. The releases at each of these named locations correspond to government laboratories and military bases. (Milan, Fort Detrick, Ottawa, Wellcome, Wuhan, etc). These labs participated and speculation asserts that the weaponized SARS-CoV-2 was simultaneously released on demand points to the conclusion that it was the first of two bioweapons, the second being the vaccines. Fauci is a Jesuit and his handlers lead back to the Black Pope, and the Pallavicini families, Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood, and Soros with his mob from the WEF and Gates organizations participating in Event201. It's useful to trace the blood samples as described in this article, even though there are issues with the sequencing of the corona virus due to the computer simulation used to generate the Wuhan model.
Sorry, but please, tell me what the point is first. I don't have the time to watch videos; happy enough to answer comments, read, and publish. :)
The article looks at the timing of blood samples which indicates intentional release.
That might fit well into the November, 2021 VAERS report, although that has been doctored every Friday ever since...
Ray, I apologize for making a mess in your own home, and making you clean up my mess.
How rudely and inconsiderate I behaved, in regards to the peaceful feel that normally presides here.
I am all too human, and occasionally lose my patience, but I overstepped the polite, sensible boundaries in my reaction to dear Lynn, to which I also offer this as a sincere apology, and will extend the olive branch.
Perhaps this war is getting to me, in that I perceive that I am quicker to be riled by what I would normally overlook.
I have checked myself!
Back to the old, surly Marcus that no one loves, but that no one hated, either, to the best of my knowledge... 🙊
I was just going to quit commenting or responding to comments after reading that last one you made directed toward me. If you are genuinely sincere in offering that olive branch; then I will accept it. We may not agree upon how to best approach this dilemma, but I do want to feel comfortable and safe in exploring our options. Let bygones be bygones. Carry on...
Absolutely.
The architects of this madness would love nothing better than our infighting.
Can't afford it. Blessings.
Sorry, but I have no idea what you are talking about. You've never been in my home and never made a mess. You don't even know where I live.
Are you sure you are sending this to the right person? :)
I am only referring to my antics here, on your forum.
When I wrote the apology, I was under the assumption that you had deleted our "conversation", but I see that it was just buried a bit.
No harm, but a foul.
I felt myself to have let my tongue wag a little too aggressively, and repented.
I was reduced to petty name-calling, in my frustration with another commenter, and that is not acceptable.
I am the only one taking it seriously, I suppose.
Respect. And thanks for having me here.
I took this very seriously and personally until I read above. I can understand how it was possible to choose a convenient target after all that we have collectively been subjected to for decades and centuries. I am a 66 year old woman and I want to console you for the hurt you've felt by the betrayal of bankers and these elite globalists; we all have been under considerable pressure. I never expected the type of response from you no matter how much we disagreed about potential approaches for resolution.
Thanks for your consolation, and though it may show as poor character, I was (shameful as it is to admit) under the impression that you were of the male persuasion, and though it may not be p.c.(not that I really concern myself overly with any of such stipulations), I do not think I would have taken such a tone, had I been aware of such, not that it made a huge difference - as people are people, after all, and respect should not be so regimented, at least in a better world!
I humbly doff my hat to you, Ma'am!
This forum belongs to you as much as it belongs to me. As long as mutual respect is exercised to each other (anyone is more welcome to abuse me verbally, it cannot hurt me) and the subject is being discussed without unnecessary verbosity that scares readers/commenters away, I am happy. In fact, I am about to do something about that, because it looks like my site is up in the next gear, and I don't want it to be killed by bots talking nonsense. :)
Once you are called names, it is only fair to return the favor, although I don't care for vulgarities, which you never used.
I always give people the benefit of doubt and warn them first, and never had to ban anyone.
It's not clear from my newsletter? I'm from the US but not very proud of that right now.
I meant the area. Places in the US can be drastically different.
I'm not in the US and dont plan to go there, probably ever again.
Sorry, if the question sounded personal; didn't mean to violate your privacy.
Still, it's good to hear you have a decent place for yourself.
Many people here have been considering moving to another country, but it doesn't look promising, wherever that may be.
Thanks s.s.men, for "letting" me like this comment today, you buggy bat-stards.
Find a more worthwhile job...
No worries Ray! I could be wrong but Mexico, El Salvador, Thai, Columbia, Japan, etc have some stability in some ways, no crt, no trans, no satan billboards, no infighting, econ works as well as it did. Again, at least to buy time. I've been in my place > 30 years whatever comes at me will at least be part of a system I'm familiar with, but yes things overall seem bleak.
Mexico is gangland for better or worse. Don't know much about El Salvador, but an American is probably not exactly welcome there, unless (s)he speaks the language, which happens to be quite localized. The same applies to Columbia, and you have to REALLY know where you are relatively safe there, even if you are a local. I do understand that what the US calls "drug lords" are CIAO associates and "mafias" might simply comprise those, who refuse to accept illegitimate governments (after all, by now, about half of the US population are considered "potential t*ists" by the usurping government (not only this one, this has been going on for at least since the end of the War of Northern Aggression). Japan cannot even feed itself; too many people (actually, the same is true of the Philippines). Costa Rica and a few islands in the Caribbean might be somewhat feasible. I like Uruguay for its cultural homogeneity, but it comes with its own version of Spanish, and it went through all the globalist mandates...
Island hopping? :)
I have customers in these countries and they are not following mandates or lockdowns and still have freedoms. The guy in Columbia said he sees no crime and people are nice there and he moved to Thai and similar. In Japan, my guy says everyone works, no lockdowns, supermarkets are full of stuff and restaurants are in full swing. The TV covid propaganda is ongoing and 85% of people are vaxed and masked up but there are few restrictions and no mandates. Still, as you say its just a matter of time.
Also, on CBDC,
https://cointelegraph.com/news/some-central-banks-have-dropped-out-of-the-digital-currency-race
Japan: "In July 2022, the bank issued a report in which it claimed it had no plan to issue a CBDC".
Ecuador has scrapped CBDC development. (I meant to write Ecuador not El Salvador in my comment above).
Denmark and Finland seem to be stopping. This "stopping" could all just be a psyop of course.
At the end of the day, there is No-where "safe" to run to; The entire planet is subject to this shit show (eventually) and running only prolongs the inevitable;
Frankly, i couldn't think of any worse scenario than to be in a place where i have no idea about the (rules) lay of the land;
At least where i stand i know where i will fall, if indeed i do succumb to the beast;
I know who my enemies are and i would hate to be in a position where i needed to ask somebody i don't know at all for direction or help of some kind
The Administrative State https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/01/george_soros_has_an_enormous_dangerous_reach_in_the_american_media.html
The Hoover-Roosevelt Depression
https://mises.org/library/hoover-roosevelt-depression
Good morning Vietnam! Great exercises here about this problem. Personally I’ve been diversifying with heavy on the AU, but it’s all for nothing without a rule of law. Human ingenuity, flexibility and not tail dragging with our various antecedent realities is perhaps a beginning.
These great communications here are a wonderful start in what may be, I think IS, an upgrade in human doings, thinkings and being. Silly me, I’ve been chomping at the bit to chime in here yet have end o month and end o year to tie up and tuck in.
Stay flexible and alert :)
This is an excellent (and surprisingly engaging, given the topic!) animated video overview of CBDC, with many likely use case scenarios that will not only educate the unaware, but also scare the hell out of them. If it doesn’t, then they deserve their fate.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/K29ESAbNv8AA/
I think that it is certain that bitcoin was set up as a trial for the CBDCs whether by the military or by the big bankers. Bitcoin also is not anonymous and it most certainly isn't "perfect money" nor is it done without an oversight committee who decides on bitcoin policy (so I disagree with Brian below). It also takes 20 minutes to transact with and has very high transaction fees whether you go with the likes of coinbase/binance or with one of the exchanges with other bitcoin owners (the second requires depositing money in a bank account so can take 24 hours or more and is therefore problematic due to the volatility of bitcoin).
So why are the old communist countries buying up gold for then?
I think you could luck out on Crypto btw. There's a lot of countries trialing out shitcoins so if one of them commits to it there will be a surge of interest before everyone realised the bit bros are full of shit.
When it was $2k, I recommended to my wife to buy Bitcoin and it nearly hit $100k later (I probably would have sold it at $50k), but she decided against it, and you know what the secret of a good marriage is, right? :)
These days, I wouldn't buy crypto, because there are signs of controlled demolition of cryptos, which also corroborates that they were started up by those "high above" ordinary mortals. :)
Remind me to tell you about the BTC origins sometime when there is no hostile environment, just sharing of experiences.
You can always use your portable device or e-mail to send me a private message in response to a notification of a new post.
It’s so hard to sell when you are flying high… 😕 I wish I had sold my Solana when it was over $200! It sure does seem like someone is trying to wreck cryptocurrency right now with Luna imploding, Celsius down, Gemini and their earnings program down… FTX and that money laundering debacle! 🙄 Sure seems suspicious to me… The banking cartel and our government DONT want us to have control of our own money! That’s for sure! 😡
But, if I had some money right now, I would still buy Bitcoin… Ethereum… Polygon… It is at the bottom of the bear market right now… buy low… Sell high! I would dollar cost average in and then hold for a couple of years… I made rookie mistakes when I first got in… Now, I’m paying the price 😑😑😑 but I will be much smarter next time!
When I can I’m going to DCA into some… 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽👍🏽
I think Bitcoin isn't worth anything so figure it does have a long way to go, all the way down. Don't really know those other ones that you mention, there's so many of the damned things. Ethereum is hovering around 1300 at the moment right? That might have some bounce in it. I know that the National Australia Bank (Australia's biggest and ugliest bank) is trying out XRP so that's the one I'm in on.
Which is not a crypto coin as such. But it might as well be.
Where does all the "electronic wealth" go to when the power is gone?
The same place as the physical "money" held in Banks;
It disappears into the never never
I guess that's why the WEF imagines that you will hardly ever go out into nature.
Please disregard my last two sentences. I had to go put the chickens away and somehow They wrote themselves.
Anyway, Gold and Silver are great as trading utilities, but if you have not read Michael Saylor’s arguments about Bitcoin, I recommend checking them out for a brilliant tour de force summation. I like Monero, I think it offers more privacy. I think the value of Bitcoin and Monero lie particularly in the invention of “trustless” exchanges. A good case can be made for them as a new human invention of a perfect money, especially where money is being considered as a utility. Their value is still being worked out in the market. Regarding Gold, the argument of FOFOA about the theory of “freegold” is very interesting. The way gold has traditionally been used by “the Giants” to ensure multigenerational fortunes far out into the future beyond huge changes like World Wars, etc. Most of us don’t qualify to have such problems, of course.
I think that real wealth is a simple condition of having enough peaceful safety for focusing on creative production of goods and being able to widely and delightfully trade those goods. Gold has traditionally been valuable in trade at scale over long distances because of its practical trade use and portability, its divisibility, universal acceptability to other traders in all other places, etc. It is really ready to start? I did not sure.
The Real Wealth that you mention is/would be great in a idealistic world where people were good, but we are witnessing the collapse of all that would allow for such wealth as the"peaceful safety" you mention.
I endeavor to shout from the rooftops, and whisper from ear to ear, this message of the coming onslaught, not to pull the rug out from anyone's good intent, or to scare the little ones, but in hopes that such are not setting theirselves up for failure, or helping to build a corrosive la-la land as a shoddy replacement for the former system, that is now failing (or being felled).
Without a prominent ideology, no civilization can survive. After that is ensured, the mandatory five castes must be established in order to secure stability:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/apocalypse-now
Doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime soon.
"Old Grumpy" says that the only way to proceed with dignity, is by a deliberate, concentrated withdrawal from this failing system.
What has worked for me is to "pretend" that civilization is already wiped out.
You are Mad Max, and you cannot eat gold or ether-currency. No one but weirdos with gold fever are going to be trading a near-useless metal for valuable commodities, and when the electric juice has been shut off, or has dried up, where will that leave all of this technological gadgetry that relies on such?
For a brief moment, I will leave the Spirit out of the equation, and will allow for a human being that is so very keen, and knowledgeable in the ways of procurement of life's necessities, that no money is ever needed, as it is useless except to those that have zero real life skills, and must rent/buy their existence from those sharp enough to deliver "the goods".
In the case of a long and gradual regression to pre-industrial life, where the befuddled masses are kept scraping by, slaving away to keep a roof overhead, and food in the belly, with the weakest dying off, as prey to savages, or from their own lack of sense, and the jack-booted hirelings are out protecting their wealthy overlords, only those willing to forego the soft life of luxury (luxuries being electricity, running water, a/c, refrigeration, processed food, microwaves, TV, computer, toilet, lights, batteries, toilet paper, pens, automobiles, bicycles, clothing, shoes, personal care products, ammunition, medication, pet food, and you get The Drift, I pray) will escape with a semblance of their dignity, or so I hold to be the case.
Otherwise, unless one be a genius of sorts, and can "do it all", like certain polymaths, most will be in the incredibly awkward position of being easily coerced to burn incense to Caesar in exchange for one's daily bread, or of being a violent rogue, perhaps banding together with other heathens for a measure of safety, that MAY be had in numbers (absolutely no guarantee, there), or one might be spared by taking a quick exit to the comforts offered by euthanasia camps.
Or (now comes Spirit!), one might be able to develop a genuine relationship with the force of life, the same Force that compels one's body to heal it's own wounds as one sleeps, and that has allowed for the very Earth that we dwell upon, and for the mysterious nature of our amazing ability to "think", and "love", and to "breathe", and to walk, and talk, and laugh... all of which is so very easy to take for granted. Not so, here soon.
Consider well the available options, only after some serious reflection upon this notion- Life, and having hopefully already gotten one's relatively ephemeral ducks in a row, and then proceed forth with all the guts that you can muster.
Life is simply not for the faint of heart, if I may observe. We have all been strung along with this fictional "life", and this is The Time to address such nonsense as we have come to accept, because there really is no promise I, or any other human being can hope to keep, in regards to making it all better, for one's self, or any other, deny it all you may.
It must always start with the individual's resolution to decide to pick up his own reins, that is, for those who are not willing to be puppets on strings.
Try imaging that your house and all possessions have been burned to cinders.
Are you going to cry and carry on, or are you going to be able to give thanks for what remains - your own life - and then readily picking up the pieces, and progressing onward, to new and potentially uncomfortable horizons?
I try and allow for individuality, as life is not so cookie-cutter perfect (thank heaven), and I know without a doubt that every single one of us alive have hidden talents, just waiting for discovery; but I also know that for all of our entire lives, a wicked, underlying current has been steadily misguiding the generations, so as to produce these weak, dependant feeders, easily manoeuvred- as easily as the Bishop takes the King.
For even mighty and powerful men fall, and all the quicker when they lack Faith in the Greater Aspects which sustains them. No one is a "self-made" man, which notion is pure bosh!
I know where my salvation is rooted, and I hope for a similar development to occur within my extended Human family, as I believe That to be the most important, critical, necessary aspect of a life well-lived.
Blessings and Warmth to comfort you all these dark days to come.
Interesting book: “How the Irish Saved Civilization.” Monk-scholars fled to the sticks. Communities formed around them. Knowledge was preserved through the Dark Ages in Europe.
How will this really play out? All the way to pre-electricity? I think I am going to fabricate a wood gasifier to get electricity from wood to run my shop if I need to. What I don’t see is anybody trying to sketch out a vision that takes into account, for the USA, what happens in the next few months-years when a couple hundred million vaxxed people set sail for the promised land, leaving behind all their stuff? I think a lot of people are going to be smartening up really fast!
Regarding “ Spirit” have you read About Cabeza de Vaca? Interesting story. He arrived in Florida as a would-be Conquistador. Only problem was the Indians kicked their asses in the beach. Only two survivors. Cabeza ran overland and did an involuntary John the Baptist thing, starving in the wild until captured by Indians. Given an ultimatum to heal the chief’s daughter overnight he found “Spirit” such that he healed her and crossed to California on foot, passing from tribe to tribe. Returning to the “soft life” back in Spain, he lost his healing abilities.
Another interesting resource is Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History Podcasts, especially the episode about the Anabaptists in Germany after Martin Luther had the Bible translated into common German and printed up on Gutenburg’s printing presses. Whole lotta interpretations of the Bible sprang into being with some pretty violent arguments between adherents of different, shall we say, “cults” who were sure of their particular interpretations/leaders and willing to die and kill.
The interpretations of the "bible" are what have kept mankind at war with one another for eons; while paradoxically they all scream "our way is peace" from over the fence;
Religion is the root of most evil in my humble opinion; Religion is the biggest business in the world; Religion is where false idols are created and worshiped; Religion[s] are naught but legitimate cults that feed on the sorrow and guilt of the helpless;
In God there is spirit; In us there is God; this is not Religion; this is belief in "something" greater than all of us
And once "the religion of peace" occupies everything, there will be peace. :)
Yes, the worldly clutter has sent the most of the world to scrambling, and even should the Pax Romana have been the real deal, there will likely be a few that will be suspicious (and rightly so) of the promise of a Utopia.
Mark, you have inspired my next article!
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/i-have-solved-the-question-of-free
I am humbly honored Ray
The Tribulation begins when deceiving peace comes throughout the whole world
Gold over crypto. Both still are pretty useless for day to day survival.
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--Use your advertising budget locally.
--Subtract the cost of your ArtWork as advertising.
--Watch people smile & laugh when “playing” with your “funny money”.
How to get started:
--Pay a small amount to a local artist for the ArtWork. Or make your own.
--Set aside an amount of cash to pay the “reward” for the return of the ArtWork. (You also may barter for the ArtWork with services or product.)
--Write or pay a writer to add:
1. Your business & slogan & offerings.
2. Your area of “good within ___miles of your place of business”.
3. Expiration date. Usually 3-6 months.
--Give your ArtWorks away.
1. You can only spend ArtWork other than your own.
2. Offer as a thank you to: Regulars, High pay customers, Bonuses &
Perks, Friends & Family, Lovers.
When the ArtWork is presented back to you
--Give cash or
--Give services or
--Give a product.
Keep gifting it out until closer to the expiration date.
_____________________
ARTIST instructions
1. You may
--Make your own ArtWork to advertise you and your business. OR
--Be commissioned to make ArtWork for someone else to advertise.
--Do one or the other because the Kindly-Tizing ArtWork is Open Source, meaning the ArtWork is not copyrighted. K-TAW believes in a gift society and a healthy local economy.
2. If you are commissioned to produce an ArtWork for someone else:
--You may sell your labor and supplies. Once a business, person, or a not-for-profit owns the ArtWork then the ArtWork totally belongs to them. They must set aside the “reward money” to exchange by the expiration date.
3. If you create the ArtWork for yourself to advertise yourself:
--You are the owner. When you own the ArtWork, you are the one who must set aside the “reward money” to exchange by the expiration date. The Owner must give ArtWork away as a gift to the community economy.
--You may take the cost of ArtWork off your income for advertising.
4. The Owner of the ArtWork must give/gift it away during the time period.
--Because if you sell the ArtWork, you
1. must pay taxes on the sale and
2. cannot deduct ArtWork as advertising.
5. ALL THE POINTS FOR THE BUSINESS OWNER APPLIES.
This concept has crossed my mind with a few variations on the theme. I think of Ithaca Hours and ITEX with enhancements.
Ithica hours collapsed because it was too centralized and when it’s founder retired the whole thing fell apart
Many other systems use hours as their base, because everyone has time as a measure of their productivity. There are challenges to resolve with these systems which is why I mentioned enhancements. Consideration for those who are disabled, criminals, and those who expect a free ride must be addressed. ITEX continues to function largely due to being global , given a local economy may not be large enough to meet people's needs adequately like Ithaca. Many more variables need to be part of the process, including wide acceptance without the input from external systems like cash or credit.
Tiny problem, Art, is only produced and executed when there is leisure time in a community. I think we will go through a period of - got a rake, got a shovel....etc
Could you e-mail me, please?
Actually, in traditional communities, art serves the prominent ideology.
Only communities with a prominent ideologies will have a breathing chance, so "art" is not going to be completely dead, although it probably won't pay well and the artist will have to do some other work, too. Building another Sixtus Chapel, if it ever happens, will come much later. :)
"Art" in traditional communities usually serves ceremonial or cultic purposes. As long as you can find such a community, your plan might actually work.
Well Astrid, even giving you the benefit of the doubt that you just don't know what you are up against, this just isn't the best of ideas. Marcus and Mark gave you a routing, but in content they are correct.
If society isn't completely dead, then making trusting relationships in an Agora that is big enough to sustain itself may work a bit. In a dystopia it needs to focus on things people need like the big 4: food, energy, shelter, water, etc. In the meanwhile I'd get all your $ out of the bank because its value is going to crash and may be bailed-in. Buy things that fit with with the big 4 like real estate with farm space, solar panels, water purifiers, and an off-grid survival book. Maybe renters who are in the system can pay rent with goods and services. Still if their are drones or UN troop after your ass, not much besides living in hidden underground bunkers in New Zealand will help. Oh, that's exactly what the elites are doing.
A feather-flogging in comparison to what Herr Schwab has in store for you all.
Twiddling thumbs is counterproductive when every moment is critical.
In any form of "community," my problem is to maintain peace among the members and security for the group. Without a unifying ideology ("culture"), no community can survive, and that is a MAJOR problem.
The "elites," as far as I can see, own islands around NZ, but their lackeys will live in underground facilities (which can be easily turned into death camps for the same inhabitants, once they have served their purpose).
My impression is that living off-grid, 2-3 warm bodies (including a dog) might still not alert the satellites with infrared sensors, so the drones would stay away. Off-grid survival, however, requires large areas per capita for survival, which doesn't look pretty.
You are correct about everything Ray. Personally, I'm planning an on- and off-grid fusion. Renters paying me in goods and services and paying the property tax as part of rent (I've already confirmed this is all legal where I live-so far), having my own no-loan home, solar panels, and renting a small veggie garden the renters can pay for, and also growing and making seeds myself using tower gardens in a small green house on my roof that is flat. The plan started in 2020 is more than half way thru. Of course getting most all the money out of the bank is part of the plan. I'm not against joining a bartering group/agora, I suppose I can always quit it. Well, any plan needs to have adaptability and a trial and a error element in it. I suppose some of this plan will at least buy time.
If I was poor I might try to work on a farm for room and board.
"paying the property TAX"........i say this with due respect but pfffft;
people continuing to pay for what they already own is a HUGE part of the problem we have right now;
where does that "TAX" money go?; it goes to keeping you as a slave to the very people (loose term) that you pay your "taxes" to;
that same "money" also goes towards the digital surveillance being rolled out across every piece of land on this earth to keep you (i, us, we, all) under control;
facial recognition, plate readers, biometric scanners, heat sensors....blah blah bloody blah, is all being used to track your every move;
"this is all LEGAL"....... seriously? this is another HUGE part of the con job that has been instilled onto Mankind; LEGAL is for the Corporate/Maritime world my friend; it is basically the "rules" that the members of the board/ships crew have to abide by; Perhaps you have heard Klauss (anal) Schwab use the term "rules based order"?; there is method to the sickos madness; he is telling you (all of us) that Corporations will be the controllers of mankind in plain english; we pretty much already have "rules based order" as most Government[s] are bonafide Corporations masquerading as Government. so are the courts, the police, the council and on it goes; Nothing "they" do is Lawful;
Lawful is where you, i and every other lost soul have inalienable rights, not only under God, but within the founding documents of our nation[s] and the Constitutions thereof; Natural Law and Common Law is where we once were and "modern" (read late 1800's to early 1900's) Nations were far more prosperous and "productive" than they are now; why you ask? well people did not pay TAX just to be able to elk out a living for a start; there were no "professional politicians" (read leeches of Our Fruits) as the breed were not recognised within Our Constitutions; Leaders were just that, Leaders of the people who worked for the people and to impose the will of the people; They helped guide the building of "communities" and "cities" not by force, but :WITH: the people;
Laws are what is meant to keep the LEGAL fraternity at checks and balances, as it is for all of us; Our Law[s] have been usurped from the people and hidden under the guise of LEGAL(ESE)
Yes the ideology of Tax is pffft, but the reality is to do something to survive. Leaving the money in the bank is like leaving your head in a mouse trap. I don't live in a country that is falling apart like the US and while the "dark side" is here many social structures are unchanged still. The amount of prop tax is only about 10% of the yearly rent. The renters will have to play the social credit score game, or they will have to play another game to pay me in goods and services, if they cant I get other renters, but the condo is an actual thing of value assuming people can own property. Taking our property will take more time if they can even and while I'm buying time I can get into other types of a bartering system, farming, hiding, who knows what but it's better to be the last to fall off the sinking ship not the first. You have lots of good ideas, I would like to see concrete and plausible ideas from you and the other good folks on the comments.
Sorry, but my impression is that ALL countries are under controlled demolition, only the timing varies.
Ten percent is a LOT for property taxes... Over here, I am paying about three percent for my small house. Anyway, prop txes must be fought teeth and nail.
If the system prohibits the tenants to pay for you, which it will, then it's game over. If you are allowed to have a CBDC account, that's where they will be allowed to pay, and if your payment is accepted to PT, it's all good. Still, it's a good question if you will be allowed to rent out anything. After all, according to the plan, "you will own nothing."
No farming after the bees and the Sun are gone, and both are in the works.
Most people don't have skills to barter, and their reserves will run out or they will be even get robbed, if not killed for having reserves. I think, those who can make it for the five years of shortages et al. will win, but that's only my opinion.
Refusing to acknowledge the legitimacy of hijacked governments is the first logical step. Issuing a currency with intrinsic value must be the next. Who will/can do it, even if they could start with a clean slate?
Welcome to the machine...
I'm not so sure about the first one off the sinking ship being the worst off- in fact, I think that the opposite holds more promise...
Flee! Your very lives depend on it.
When Babylon falls, it is not going to be a pleasant experience, I guarantee.
Flee, while you are able.
Down and DIRTY!
Dirt don't hurt..
Playing for time is all one can do. Sooner or later, all back doors will be closed, and the only question is which side will outlast the other. My estimate is five years until the globalist empire expires, but until then, they will be vicious in any way imaginable and unimaginable. Apparently, it's still at the rehearsal stage, and it looks like it's being delayed, so the show might not start up before 2025, but even this winter was/is suspicious, and it's not over.
so, what happens after the globalist empire expires?
(I'd appreciate some good news for the start of the year:)
The darkest hour is yet to come.
Is no news truly good news?
The best news I'd think you could hear, is that you're still breathing, so you have a chance for redemption, if you are willing to take it; and then of course you must USE the time afforded you to get cracking.
Vamos!
Chances are it will be 1800 again. Coal plants could be started up, but it's unpredictable if there will be anyone still living and able to cope with the task.
For comic relief, I fixed Darwin's Theory of Evolution:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/i-have-just-fixed-the-theory-of-evolution
Art is pleasing, and surely has it's place, but really- this seems so incredibly ludicrous to me, except for in a liberal la-la land, and I really do say this without aim to offend.
Although, only a really mean son of a monster will likely kill you for trying to trade your art for his ....... (fill in the blank).
I do not know what picture forms in your mind, but I just find it very difficult to grasp any seriousness to this business you mention, as it seems possible only in a soft, friendly world of fiction.
Blessings, regardless...
It is a concept based upon a gift society that will only work on a decentralized micro level. It’s a work in progress and can only be implemented if the shit really hits the fan. It’s also completely open to anyone who wants to change it for better and hopefully not worse.
So am i to expect that "if i trade my stored (meat, eggs, vegetables et al.) for your "art" that somehow your "art" is going to make my life secure?:
Am i going to be able to find shelter in your art so that it may protect me from the elements?;
Am i going to be able to fashion tools of survival from said art?:
The only substance your art might have in "the real world" where the strong survive and the weak go begging, is perhaps to use it as a fire starter IF i am stranded in a forest without kindling of some sort;
Please, stay away from me; i have absolutely no use for your "art"; content yourself with painting pretty pictures or sculpting or whatever it is you call "art" and find out how little value your art holds when you face starvation or freezing to death
Once the art is in circulation and holds intrinsic worth, then the exchanges can include value plus tangible goods and services.
Honestly Lynn? what is the "intrinsic value" of a work of art?
I can just about guarantee you that if the last man standing in the Vatican has not eaten a thing for a week, i could probably find myself fortunate enough to swap my bowl of porridge for the entire "art collection", including the gold clad walls; If i pushed the point, i could insist that last being clean the place before i move in
Oy. I do not know where you live, but it must be a very sheltered cove, near Shambhala, tucked away down the way from Nirvana.
And in reality, when tsRhtf, are you going to trade your dozen Eggs for Michaelangelo's David?
Or even a priceless Faberge egg?
Perhaps I am being too harsh, but really - I find your idea to be surreally dystopianistic , so there's your artistic niche, I reckon...
A bon adieux.
It’s just an idea. Can’t change things without imagining alternatives. I’m fully open to the fact that it could be a complete wash. But, someone might take it, change it and run with it.
I live outside of Woodstock and I’m considered a crazy hippy artist by my family. I’ll own it.
You can be 1 of 5 things:
1. Hippy with no practical ideas
2. Hippy with at least some practical ideas on the front burner.
3. A conservative with no practical ideas
4. A conservative with practical ideas.
5. Some mix of these.
If you are a hippy, I suggest you be #2. I don't think myself, Mark, or Marcus would fault you one bit if you are a Hippy or if you want to do art IN ADDITION to ideas on how to to live and thrive.
CBDC will not give people money to buy art, and they will not barter for art when they need items to just survive. Do you not understand that you are in the middle of a genocide and the roll-out of a fascistic technocracy?
I can be many many things without tying myself to any one concept.
And of course I realize we are in the middle of a huge technocratic takeover. I’ve been watching it unfold for decades.
I’m also thinking that you are not actually reading the whole concept. The art is just a vehicle for banking on yourself. I chose art and advertising because at this point in time neither is taxable. Who ever chooses to participate in the system has to be willing to gift the “art” into the local community. The initial idea came from Native American potlatch.
Some forty years ago (I lived in Jerusalem at the time) I made the following note:
"This world has arrived at the Gates of Hell,
Only a few more good intentions and the Gates will open."
In those days I had no idea what shape these intentions were going to take.
Now I know and it's hard to be surprised. Our civilization has been corrupt from its beginning.
That's what I learnt in Jerusalem.
Hard, but worthwhile lessons will teach us this that you have discovered, but ONLY if one is serious about the importance given to life.
Many want to remain blind, and for this they will suffer.
This is why I live way out in the boonies- I do not like witnessing the culling process that has been long and steadily in the works.
Grace preserve us.
Right, serious about the importance given to life, by a power beyond any religion I have heard of.
But what does it mean, living out in the "boonies"? Never heard of any before. Living in a small country I see no way of withdrawing from the process. I would if I could.
With no offense intended towards the various practitioners of the world's religions, I feel that all of them, without exception, were created only to commander and cloak over the generally ethereal nature of the Holy eternal Spirit, and to dole out a blasphemous and perverted version, replete with all the pomp and vulgar displays to keep those that would suffer such indignities in hypnotized awe, and NOTHING ELSE.
No one may "profit" from the Spirit's gifts in such a way, and I hold them to be valuable only in the light of people being woken up to the charade, and seeking higher, and that is a rather rare occurrence; in fact, I think it is more likely that frog turn into a bird, or a boy turn into a girl (uh-oh).
... and NOTHING ELSE, says it all.
The Spirit works against those who try to "profit" by it but the profiteers are above noticing. That has brought the world into the abyss. We have to dismantle them, so I feel, more than the systems of science, politics, education, health care etc. The latter being only the worm-eaten fruits from the well-known tree. The axe must hit the roots now. Even our self-selected dicatorships could not reinstall the old normal if they wanted to, given that it was and has been the opposite of what the Spirit demands.
Truth does not need to conquer through us though (the presumption of it!). All we have to do is bow down to her as she is the manifestation of the Spirit that has breathed the life into us.
It is most awesome to be living these days.
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48db99bb-78e7-4c7f-ae22-3bac22830df6_1920x1081.png?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
I agree. This chart, while a goodly proximation of the Power Grid as seen by most, is to be found lacking severely, in that it does not show the Vatican above all of the rest, as "we" are not supposed to know anything about such...
And are definitely not ever supposed to talk about it.
It will crash down relatively soon, but not as soon as several "in the know" would have it.
I plan to clearly witness as much as my senses will allow for, and to tear down what is abominable where I am able; and really, there is nothing to construct- though most will likely disagree with me on that point.
The VAT-I-CAN is the very tip of the Pyramid
Well, thank you for the chart. I saved it in order to train myself in what some propose to do to humanity.
When the Spirit has been too much trampled upon, it shows itself as a welter of evils. This she has been doing now for a long time without anyone paying much attention.
Yet for all the harm it may achieve, and we have had full measures of harm, evil has no substance. It's the veil that covers the true face of what IS, always has been and always will be. Of which we may be part or may refuse to be part. That's our choice. Something infinite is at stake in our lives. Something that makes the difference between great ones and small fry laughable.
I think, my segmentation of civilizations covers all cultures, irrespective of their stages of technological development:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/apocalypse-now
"Boonies" is a slang term for the country, also "sticks".
Yes-- the Netherlands would drive me out of my skull, with the size, the flatness (much of the space being below sea level, I understand), and the Dutch, of which I am not overly fond, generally ...
I feel you.
Perhaps you live very hand-to-mouth, there, by the telling.
I can admire and appreciate that type of life, as I too live much the same, only rurally.
Strength to persevere!
Thanks for the explanation and for your kind words.
I would be more scared if I weren't sure I have found the mode of life intended for me.
Thankfully I do not live in a city but close to a little left-over patch of countryside.
I feel I know exactly what you mean, as for there being no room for fear, after having been ignited by this wonderful Force that rooted me in the fertile soil.
Now for the Real work, of growing correctly, which is a pleasure- even in the face of This Mess- to partake of such a epic struggle as we face.
I am heartened, in that you are not a vagabond roaming the "slums" of Amsterdam!
Indeed! Courage is NOT "being afraid, but still doing it," but about serving something greater than one's life! :)
Thanks for the invitation anyway. Not being a tourist in this world I do not travel on aeroplanes. My flights I perform on the wings of fancy. A word from a brother or sister in distant parts is most welcome.
Omg, I am SO HAPPY you put this question out there. For the longest time, I have been asking goldbugs how I can practically use gold when SHTF (defined any way you like). I understand that traditionally, it’s been a way to retain wealth. Agreed. But these are not traditional tomes. Barter? Ok, I get that, but it’s still troublesome to figure out exchange value. Is a gas station going to take gold coins to fill up my gas tank? Maybe. So barter might work on some level. But I can’t pay my mortgage or my utility bills with gold - or crypto either - if those entities on the receiving end won’t accept it (or are most likely incentivized/threatened NOT to). All you need to look at is cabal of censorship to know that could happen for transactions. In order to transact with my gold/crypto, I’d have to exchange it for what is accepted to keep my house and keep the heat and lights on. I sure as hell am not exchanging it for CBDC.
We know TPTB want us to own nothing and control everything. Why do we think they’d allow us to retain any semblance of wealth with crypto or precious metals? All these years of gold pushing commercials may be playing right into their hands when they eventually outlaw ownership.
I have been racking my brain on how we avoid what’s no doubt coming, but I’m coming up empty. These psychopaths have war-gamed this for a long time. Even worse, there’s a large segment of the (younger) population who are happily sleepwalking into their own digital prisons all in the name of convenience.
All that is a longwinded way to say I have no answer to your question. 😊 At the very least, I’ve realized that it will be critical to form local communities of like minds with various and complementary resources and skills to support each other - not online, but in *real life.* I’ve committed to help facilitate getting people together in 2023.
You need an off-grid survival book, more motivation, and better strategy.
Most people wouldn't know how to open a tool box let alone use the tools inside the box
What is wealth? is the question i have been asking myself for a long time, way before this "plandemic" and the fallout from it started; i have never been a total slave to the machine;
I have no need for the biggest or most convenient house on the street; i NEED 1 toilet, 1 shower, 1 stove/oven, 1 bed, and 1 roof over my head; everything else i have in my life are just "things" to keep me amused, apart from my tools which actually do have purpose but have also been used to keep me amused;
My failing body is where i feel "poor".........time and previous injuries have not been kind (and so has this relatively easy life) BUT i can still do what NEEDS to be done, even if i need a good lay down after "it" is done;
Being healthy is as wealthy as one could reasonably expect to be in my opinion;
Having the ability to "fend for yourself" when called upon is also very rich; what are the so-called "wealthy" going to do when their "money" is worthless and the only way they can help themselves is to "buy" help?;
ask yourself.....am i able to fashion my own shelter if i need to (even if that means erecting a tent)?, can i find water and a way to store water if i need to?, can i gather/hunt for food if i need to?, do i know how to prepare a "carcass" so i can safely consume it if i have to?, can i fashion fire?, can i cook?, can i protect myself from those that wish me harm?
Yes, money has been seen as a necessity in the modern age but when all is said and done, that "money" has been used to buy all the items we have asked ourselves above
Excellent! One's health is surely a most important asset in our kit, but the will to persevere can triumph where poor health may lack- Mind over Matter.
This money idea has been the biggest part of humanity's downfall, I feel correct in saying.
Yes, it is the objective that matters most. Survival alone doesn't cut it; it must be something greater. :)
One cannot achieve any greater good if at first don't survive Ray......
Many people have put the cart before the horse only to find that the cart wont move
You and I disagree here. Sometimes, the ONLY way to achieve any greater good is by NOT surviving:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/i-have-solved-the-question-of-free
I look forward to the read