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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

Oh and by the way…religion is not a private matter! And it’s not an emotional matter! Let me explain….Jesus Christ didn’t die in a corner…in a cave hidden…out of the way….no….He died openly before all to see! This thing wasn’t done under a bushel!

Also it’s a historical fact that Jesus existed…lived…died…and rose again! Even agnostic historical figures confirm that! So true Christianity is built on facts not fiction or emotion! Jesus commanded his disciples to go out and tell everyone what He did! To preach the “good news”…that Jesus died for our sins…was buried…and rose again for our justification!

If you turn away from your sin…and believe on Him…with your whole heart….and all that He accomplished…He promises you….eternal life! Now that is neither private or necessarily emotional….but factual…and really joyful! It’s truly “Good News!”……God bless you…Ray!

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

You and I agree that Christianity might be the only ideology that could stand up against the technocratic system, which is why it has been viciously attacked for several decades.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Sorry, I've seen way too many "religious" people who just didn't live up to what they were saying.

Have you read my link about personal experience at all? That's what matters for everyone, if anything matters at all. I am still in doubt if my next-door neighbor will be "religious" after his four young children start starving. Frankly, I don't think so.

Well, that's what I mean by religion being a "private matter."

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Richard Seager's avatar

When do you think that his four young children are going to start starving?

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Maybe never. It depends if food/water/energy shortages are going to be used for decimating the population, creating riots/looting, and turning people on each other.

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Richard Seager's avatar

So 6 months of retailing mid - luxury gifts is safe then?

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Five years seem to be the rental periods for bunkers. :)

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Richard Seager's avatar

i.e. when is Iran going to close the Straits.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Iran is not completely nuts. Even if it were not defeated, it would become weak and its own population could grow dissatisfied after a long period of martial law, leading to its destabilization. They know that.

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Richard Seager's avatar

So who can wait out whom then?

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

So sorry….Ray you are not a religious nut! Why? Because all “human love”… is often fickle…undependable…false…and fading! Believe me no one love you more than yourself! There is only…”ONE LOVE”….that is lasting…even..eternal! Yes…you got it…the…”LOVE OF GOD”…which resides only in Christ Jesus! Yes the Biblical Christ!

Without that love..which I can see you do not have….all other loves..are fleeting and eventually useless!

Let me encourage you to look into Gods eternal love for His own….by opening the Bible…where you will find it! No other place offers you not only…eternal love….but eternal life…where you can fully enjoy it for ever! Thank you for reading this….and thank you for your posts!

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Jessica's avatar

How can it be anything but personal. We are all just individual souls seaking out our own salvation, our own intimate relationship with the the devine Creator. Even scripture tells us to go into your closet and shut the door as you pray.

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

Dear Jessica…yes…faith is personal…between you and the divine creator…who is Jesus Christ! Yes…we definitely need a personal relationship with Christ! True faith is individual…as the scripture says in John 1:12-13….“Which were born not of blood….( not inherited from your parents) nor of the will of the flesh….( we don’t produce faith through anything we do )…nor of the will of man…like the RC Priest confers on infants at baptism! But of God! Only God can bring people unto himself as Jesus said….”No man can come to Me….unless the Father draws him!” John 6:44. And those elect…whom the Father draws…will gladly and humbly come! And with great joy will share their miracle…of faith…with others! This has nothing to do with prayer…which can be both public and private demonstrated by the Apostles in the book of Acts! God bless!

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Jessica's avatar

Dear Lorraine, are you a true worshiper, are you in the Spirit, do you follow the sabbath or do you go to church and celebrate on December 25th and give out chocolate bunnies in the spring. So many have been led astray, it would be hard to tell others what to believe at this point. There is a truth but even that seams beyond human comprehension.

Love and light

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

Yes…I go to church! I celebrate Christ…His birth…His death…His resurrection…no bunnies for me! Yes…I’m filled with the Spirit…but only by the marvelous grace of God…when on December 10 1961 Jesus Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit… met me…and saved my sinful soul! It brings me to tears just remembering His great love for me! In my 80 I’m still in love with my Savior!

Yes…truth…humanly speaking…is beyond comprehension…as Jesus said we are blind and dumb before we experience the new birth! As the scripture states…”The natural man…in his flesh…cannot understand the things of the Spirit! He can’t even know them! 1 Corinthians 2:14….Thank you for your response!😊

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

I am nobody to tell anyone what to believe in, but in my experience, it is ALWAYS personal...

And yes, even Jesus said to pray alone, lest you should expect a favor in this world.

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

If you truly know Christ…you are under command to tell others what to believe!

Why? Because there is only one true approach to God the Father….and that is through Christ! All other so-called ways will lead to a dead end! Yes that’s exclusive…not popular…but the truth!

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Look, I am not an open book for anyone. In fact, when I was young and wanted to share, I realized it was like an iceberg: only one tenth is sticking out, and if you raise more, it melts and you end up with nothing.

And I would never even venture into claiming that I am an oracle for the Truth...

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Dear Lorraine,

I thought my article about me not being a nut case spoke for itself. My impression is that it is always personal has been supported by my experience with other people, too. Islam enforces itself on its "followers," and tends to prohibit personal experience, which boils down to brainless chanting and following "rules" that nobody has to understand. The same has been occurring in Christianity as long as it was used as state ideology, and deviation was severely punished or even persecuted, because the rulers needed a homogeneous ideology for their mostly illiterate human assets.

Nobody can follow the letter; one needs the Spirit.

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

You totally misunderstand me! Yes…the “Roman Catholic Church”…persecuted anyone who didn’t adhere to their beliefs! But the RCC is not Christs church…as she perverts the very foundational doctrine on which the Christs church stands! The Bible states that salvation is by grace alone…through faith alone…in Christ alone….not by works!

The RCC teaches a works based gospel…which if you are interested…you can read in Galatians chapter one where the Apostle Paul states God curses anyone who teaches a works based gospel! So Rome is under the anathema of God!

As far as being private about your faith….Jesus said….”The one who denies Me before men I will deny!” To be private about your faith is the same as denying Christ! If you have true faith…in Christ….you won’t set on the fence…and be quiet…and say my beliefs are private! That’s treason to Christ!

A true believer ( yes who has the Holy Spirit ) like you said…loves to share his faith in Christ! He or she is looking for every opportunity to do so! No true believer feels forced or obligated…to do so…it’s out of the One you love…with all your heart…you share! I hope this helps! Thank you for your response! It is much appreciated!😊

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

ALL churches have been used for state ideology. "Reformist" churches were most welcome by rulers who didn't want to pay tribute to Rome. I am not interested in theological arguments, but while you and are at it, Christ also said that "Depart from me, you evildoers; I've never known you. You didn't feed me, when I was hungry, didn't visit me in prison," blah, blah, blah...

Henry VIII is probably the highest rank in the travesty, but the previous Pope also showed his colors...

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