Friends that I met up with recently after not seeing them for 8 months or more know of Substack and view it as a right wing platform. They didn't know that I was on Substack (and anyway know to keep away from me online due to the 'association' with someone who upsets those who could harm them). Nevertheless they seem to use Substack for information but tend to follow all the big guys like Del & Steve & Glenn etc etc.
It's a difficult thing to both promote your Substack here and not be thought of as interloping into somebody else's Substack. When I first started mine there was somebody doing that quite a lot and then there was me who did it seldom. We started off on the same number of subscribers of course and after several months we were still around the same, maybe a couple of hundred or so. But now said Substacker is well ahead of me, in the thousands while I'm struggling to 700.
So if you want the subscribers I guess you'll have to take the flak. I think that we should all not bother worrying about it, or personalities, and just get on with fixing the dystopia that the dystopians are trying to level on us.
On the internet no one needs to be anyone but the mood and moment. He does not strike me as any category specifically. He has his trip. He likes it. He may be similar but not interested in dialogue per se. Clearly he feels though you are too self referential. Possibly he may view you as self promoting. Possibly ego bound.
I am reading fear of competition and his loss of subscribers to you. But that comes mixed with some jealousy and envy. He admires your intellect, yet he then goes on to make comparisons by judging himself. There is a bit of projection on his part, he adjusts by pushing you away to maintain a little distance in service to his ego.
I suppose it was inevitable that SS would be ruined at some point. The mere thought that we could find a site the allowed authors unfettered publication rights (within reason, or course) is turning out to be a panacea. TPTB simply could not allow this site to thrive. Sadly, for me, I don't have a place to retreat to to find uncensored information. Given that SS is now about to be ruined to the point that talented authors and dedicated readers will find it an untenable place to find information, I think we have reached the point where we need to cancel all subscriptions and visit authors "manually" if we want to see what's going on. Nothing good lasts forever. Bye bye Substack.
My immediate subjective gut reaction is he thinks you are "tooting your own horn all the time". Of course, l don't agree with that. But l think you annoy him. You make him feel inferior. Too bad. He needs to grow up.
If he doesn't want your valuable participation & your links to your SS posts in his comment section then let him block you. His loss. You can't please everyone, Ray.
Jan 24, 2023·edited Jan 24, 2023Liked by Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)
With a limited view of what has transpired here, I would guess that one person has a strongly different view of putting their published links on other publisher's site. For example one may believe some sort of informal permission should be obtained, while the other may think it is an economic way of getting more information out to other readers and should be part of the substack culture. That practice could be what is considered spamming another substack comment section by some number of people, maybe you do this more often than other publishers. I don't mind seeing those links myself as I have a choice to click to the additional content, but to each their own preference. That trend with people getting quickly intolerant with others is starting to be noticeable. They might be sending out those aggression frequencies lately if you know what I mean.
Sometimes these conversations are so hard to have in this kind of text /comment format, and things get taken out of context. I can see what he means when you said "on the same team" is a form of manipulation, but I don't think this is what you were doing of course. His fears might have gotten the best of him. Hope you can get some resolution Ray.
My thing: I'm not into having conflicts with any of the authors where I comment. Occasionally I disagree, but I have quite a tendency to enjoy reading people whom I basically agree with but who add to my knowledge. So if someone didn't want me to post links, I wouldn't. But I'm all in favor of you doing what it feels right for you to do. The argument basically feels irrelevant to me. I care about the content of what you say - and of what I say.
Your questionnaire, to be fair, lacks a key option : “none of the above”. Followed, if you are inclined with the opportunity to offer a brief explanation. As things stand you only offer negative responses. From my reading you are both being a little snippy. It’s a no score draw Ray. IMO.
Seemed he had a problem. Suggest very short!! replies.
Eg. You always link to your work.
Answer: yes.
His reply...you need to...(chastising you).
Answer: my page, my style
Don't explain, don't engage.
BUT, you CAN say to him,
If you want to link others, I appreciate it.
I cover my own things.
PS...takes A LOT of time to find, collate others.
Meanwhile, thanks, great work.
Do you have to get permission to quote others?
If not, find someone similar, put one in.
THERE.
Friends that I met up with recently after not seeing them for 8 months or more know of Substack and view it as a right wing platform. They didn't know that I was on Substack (and anyway know to keep away from me online due to the 'association' with someone who upsets those who could harm them). Nevertheless they seem to use Substack for information but tend to follow all the big guys like Del & Steve & Glenn etc etc.
It's a difficult thing to both promote your Substack here and not be thought of as interloping into somebody else's Substack. When I first started mine there was somebody doing that quite a lot and then there was me who did it seldom. We started off on the same number of subscribers of course and after several months we were still around the same, maybe a couple of hundred or so. But now said Substacker is well ahead of me, in the thousands while I'm struggling to 700.
So if you want the subscribers I guess you'll have to take the flak. I think that we should all not bother worrying about it, or personalities, and just get on with fixing the dystopia that the dystopians are trying to level on us.
On the internet no one needs to be anyone but the mood and moment. He does not strike me as any category specifically. He has his trip. He likes it. He may be similar but not interested in dialogue per se. Clearly he feels though you are too self referential. Possibly he may view you as self promoting. Possibly ego bound.
I am reading fear of competition and his loss of subscribers to you. But that comes mixed with some jealousy and envy. He admires your intellect, yet he then goes on to make comparisons by judging himself. There is a bit of projection on his part, he adjusts by pushing you away to maintain a little distance in service to his ego.
I suppose it was inevitable that SS would be ruined at some point. The mere thought that we could find a site the allowed authors unfettered publication rights (within reason, or course) is turning out to be a panacea. TPTB simply could not allow this site to thrive. Sadly, for me, I don't have a place to retreat to to find uncensored information. Given that SS is now about to be ruined to the point that talented authors and dedicated readers will find it an untenable place to find information, I think we have reached the point where we need to cancel all subscriptions and visit authors "manually" if we want to see what's going on. Nothing good lasts forever. Bye bye Substack.
My immediate subjective gut reaction is he thinks you are "tooting your own horn all the time". Of course, l don't agree with that. But l think you annoy him. You make him feel inferior. Too bad. He needs to grow up.
If he doesn't want your valuable participation & your links to your SS posts in his comment section then let him block you. His loss. You can't please everyone, Ray.
Ray , Mon Cheri , you are reading too much into this Mickey . Take a break from it .
With a limited view of what has transpired here, I would guess that one person has a strongly different view of putting their published links on other publisher's site. For example one may believe some sort of informal permission should be obtained, while the other may think it is an economic way of getting more information out to other readers and should be part of the substack culture. That practice could be what is considered spamming another substack comment section by some number of people, maybe you do this more often than other publishers. I don't mind seeing those links myself as I have a choice to click to the additional content, but to each their own preference. That trend with people getting quickly intolerant with others is starting to be noticeable. They might be sending out those aggression frequencies lately if you know what I mean.
Sometimes these conversations are so hard to have in this kind of text /comment format, and things get taken out of context. I can see what he means when you said "on the same team" is a form of manipulation, but I don't think this is what you were doing of course. His fears might have gotten the best of him. Hope you can get some resolution Ray.
My thing: I'm not into having conflicts with any of the authors where I comment. Occasionally I disagree, but I have quite a tendency to enjoy reading people whom I basically agree with but who add to my knowledge. So if someone didn't want me to post links, I wouldn't. But I'm all in favor of you doing what it feels right for you to do. The argument basically feels irrelevant to me. I care about the content of what you say - and of what I say.
Your questionnaire, to be fair, lacks a key option : “none of the above”. Followed, if you are inclined with the opportunity to offer a brief explanation. As things stand you only offer negative responses. From my reading you are both being a little snippy. It’s a no score draw Ray. IMO.