I think he gave the citizens interest free loans to buy or build their houses as well. The economy started booming when he did away with usury. Wherever he got the money, it's was obviously easier to do 9 decades ago. Those loopholes/allies aren't there anymore.
What I've thought about a fair bit is if I build a house and pay for it with a mortgage, and the final bill for the house is comprised of a number of costs: Land, building materials, labour, and a whole raft of government consents that must also be paid. Then there is tax on the land, the materials and even the man-hours (labour) to build it as well as tax on the pieces of paper I need otherwise known as consents. These consents nowadays can make up 10-20% of the total cost, if not more. Then I must pay interest on my mortgage on top of the costs including tax. Over a 30 year mortgage this means I end up paying the original loan amount 3 times over. AND...the loan from the bank was generated out of thin air when I signed the loan agreement merely based on my ability to repay it. BUT we won't go there now. Just my musings on why it's so difficult to get ahead. The system is designed that way. Oops, This is bound to set off some alarms for the thought police. Someone is beginning to reason for themselves and think independently again....
Ezekiel 18:13 "He lends at interest and takes a profit. Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he is to be put to death; his blood will be on his own head."
How much more so when they create the money out of thin air they lend you and still charge interest on it? Actually it is your own money they are lending you at interest because it is "created" on your future ability to repay it plus interest! I spoke to a banker the other day who told me they don't even hold 3% of all the balances/savings in bank accounts in cash either. 97% is unaccounted for in reality. That's why runs on the banks are such a problem ,it's a big ponzi scheme. There really is very little physical money and it's not backed by anything substantial like gold, but we work most of our lives to pay off debts.
Hitler's mother, before she died, was treated by a Jewish physician. Hitler even sent him two postcards later on (and/or two of his paintings, I forget) as a token of his gratitude, so his attitude towards Jews was not necessarily hatred. It is a further problem that there is no such thing as "Jews," only several types of Jewry that are not even connected to each other.
Hitler thought that the international banking cartel was the result of a global Jewish conspiracy, but it turns out that while the cabal has some forms of Jewish ancestry, they despise the rest of the Jews or use them as fronts or as patsies (among whom, as far as I can see, they include the Zionists, too). Many Germans after WW2 thought that Hitler's biggest mistake was that he went after "the Jews," but I think, he made the "Qaddafi mistake," when he wanted to get rid of the control by the cabal.
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From what I can tell, in Mein Kampf, Hitler made no great distinction between any ‘different forms of Jewry’ .. As far as he was concerned… a Jew was a Jew was a Jew. It all basically came down to bloodline. My wife is German (Bavarian)… I’ve seen ‘with my own eyes’, the “official stamped documents” her grandparents needed as proof that they satisfied the Nazi officials there was ‘no Jewish ancestry in their bloodline’. I know this is more than likely going to get us well offside, but I think you know by know (much like yourself)… I’m a guy who ‘speaks his truth’.
Yes, Hitler's non-differentiation between the globalist fake Jews and real Jews (most of whom, as opposed to anti-semitic propaganda, don't consider you a bovine (which is what a "goy" is supposed to mean) cost Germany the war losses. He lost the war, because he wanted Germany to become independent (that's what I call the "Gaddafi mistake"; Gaddafi wanted to issue a gold-based African currency, which didn't end well for him -- remember Killary's gloating!).
Hitler still didn't treat all Jews as enemies. Before his mother died, her doctor was Jewish and Hitler remembered him with respect and affection later on (sent him postcards and gave him two of his paintings, if I recall it accurately).
I'm not sure what your point is after "My wife is Bavarian..." Quite a few German officials had some Jewish blood in them and that included some of the SS, too. The problem is that both the official and the revisionist history are full of contradictions.
Ray, I have to ask... so what's your basic overall view of Hitler and the SS? Do you believe they were 'in a way' kind of misrepresented by broader history? Like they were perhaps 'misunderstood patriots', just trying to do good for their people and their nation..? -- Or something like that..?
In 19 countries, people can go to prison only for asking questions... It is not fair to them for us to start a discussion in which they are forbidden to participate.
Now is the winter of our discontent...and it's once again springtime for Hitler and Germany!* Not about to do any in-depth research for the history, or mythology, recounted here, especially since its revisionism has prohibited any questioning of revisionism, in recognition of state censorship (wink, wink) and in solidarity with those victimized for their valiant stands on behalf of fascism - absent much if any care for those victimized by fascism.
In this respect, perhaps one good place to start 'our' merely 'academic' inquiry is at the start of this wide-ranging rant: "As opposed to the myths by posterity, the vast majority of Germans loved Adolph Hitler." Not clear what basis there is for this (latter) claim. The highest percentage of the German electorate received by Hitler and the Nazis - for whatever vote counts, hardly a measurement of 'love', are worth in rigged rituals of 'representative' government - was just a little over 37%. And for whatever "lies, damned lies, and statistics" (Twain) are worth, does the author have access to other polling data in the early days of Gallup?
Indications on the ground in 1930s Germany was that a major base of support for the Nazis, apart from the vagaries of politics, were the jackbooted thugs like the SA terroizing the general population through select targets, principally working class people and their organizations from unions to communists, who along with 'defectives' like the disabled were first in line for untermenschen, with other usual suspects like the Jews, Slavs, homosexuals (including the purge of the gay-spirited SA in the Night of the Long Knives), Gypsies or Romany, and more soon enough to join them. This reign of terror all the more reinforced less populous middle class people driven by fear in desperate times of economic insecurity to serve as Hitler's principal political base (he was 'cleaning up the streets' of the underclass criminal element. etc., etc.).
The Nazis 'improved' the economy principally by militarism, an all too common answer to problems of class war on the home fronts of industrial capitalist economies contributing to WW2's repeat of imperialist bloodbath. (The 'solution' of military Keynesianism was made permanent here post-WW2 to insure 'prosperity' relative to domestic subjects like the white race of Pax/Pox Americana, which contributed to the creeping fascism of U$, Inc. that now converges upon the New (ab)Normal Wolrd Order.)
While militarism employed armies of labor to the disproportionate advantage of owners of industry, workers' wages and benefits were slashed across the economy, complementing union busting and busting of heads by paramilitaries. Consumer society was supported by subsidy and price control, eventually necessitating greater resource grabs in the name of atonement for Versailles, while other compensatory crumbs were thrown the masses in such specatcle as Nuremberg came to epitomize. Bread and circuses, as the Romans practiced, now an adavnced science in ways all too comfortable for many good Amerikaners.
This kind of 'healthy' bizzness climate was why the big money as well as big guns of German industry and finance backed der Fuhrer, just like Italian capitalists rallied to Il Duce. And the maintenance of worldwide class rule was why the Bank for International Settlements (the BIS, today's central bank of central banks), nominally established 1930 to manage debt payments by Germany to WW1 victors, effectively funded the Third Riech and WW2. Whatever role it may or may not have played after 1933 and theatrics over international finance and the Jewish question** was amply balanced by foreign capital flocking to Germany for its 'stability'.
As usual, U$, Inc.'s corporate capital demonstrated its favoritism for dictatorship over democracy in collusion with Nazism - Rockefeller's Chase Bank and Standard Oil (aka Esso, particularly in partnership with IG Farben, a chemical and phrameutical leader in the 'final solution' trade), GE (most heavily invested in the Krupps arms industry), Coca-Cola (Fanta Orange) , GM (Opel), Ford (Henry was proudly antisemitic and fascist), Kodak (proud employer of slave labor in the concentration camps), IBM (reflecting CEO Thomas Watson's fondness for Adolph by supplying the punch card system for classification, and disposal of, concentration camp prisoners), Random House (major propaganda publisher for Goebbels and the gang). Most of these and other American companies carried on their grizly bizzness operations before, during, and after the war, even receiving reparations for damages, compliments of American taxpayers (working class people). Yet none dare call it treason, even as American soldiers (working class people) died while this orgnaized crime against humanity played whatever side was profitable.
No doubt our own fascist ruling class found some consolation in Germany after failure of their own planned coup in the US, exposed by General Smedley Butler when he was approached to lead the overthrow of FDR (another one of those bits of American history left out of standard textbook accounts). But we also should not ignore how the Nazis found inspiration from their own previous examples here, from Lebensraum carrying on such good old Amerikkkan traditions as Manifest Destiny clearing the land of 'savages' to Nazi doctors and medicine drawing on precedents of poulation control like Anglo-American eugenics. Nor should we overlook how Nazi propaganda built on Ango-American perfection of this science of social engineering, consolidated with WW1. It only stands to reason that such covert ops as Paperclip brought Nazi scientists to the US to lend their expertise to post-WW2 developments like MK-Ultra mind control and MK-Naomi bio-chemical warfare, or that the CIA more recently seeded and cultivated neoNazis in Ukraine since at least the 2014 coup.
Reference to Ukraine, and the way it's currenly being used to wage proxy war against Russia (Eurasia always having been a grand prize on the geopolticial chessboard), brings us back around to the role of the USSR at the time of the Nazis past. Allied powers, prior to their alliance against Germany, were more than accommodating, in the manner of Chamberlain, if not allied with the Nazis. They promised to be a bulwark if not battering ram against the communist regime, a continuing force of containment and destabilization the allies of WW1 had initiated in invasion of Russia following the 1917 revolution.
No matter to what degree that original revolution and establishment of a wokers' state had been betrayed under Stalinism, western capitalist powers still approached its symbolc power for its own working class masses as the primary threat to their rule. This also largely explains why British and American forces were used to fight antifascists in Italy, Greece, and elsewhere at war's end, also representing the threat of a good example to working classes, and instead set up in power some of the same fascist collaborators once deemed the enemy.
Stalin negotiated the short-lived pact with Hitler in strategic recognition of this typical preference of capitalism for fascism. Only when Nazi (false flag) invasion of Poland no longer served to form a buffer zone (and invasion routes into Russia) as conventionally reserved for eastern Europe, and rather served as a signal of Germany's threat to western imperialism, along with Germany's penetration of the Balkans and routes to mideast oil reserves, reminiscent of WW1, did the geopolitical game change.
Contrary to western imperialism, the USSR was about anything but worldwide conquest, confined to socialism in one country as Stalin defined it in doing away with international revolution, and its original advocates in mass purges. Still emerging from a primarily agricultural, peasant base of an economy and rebuilding from the devastation of WW1 (and invasions), the USSR was furiously, at the toll of millions of lives, fast-forwarding industrial capitalism under bureaucratic rule of the party, rather than private capital. Yet if any of the allied powers of WW2 deserves credit for defeating Nazi Germany (which perhaps is cause only for lament among many here?), it's the USSR, often forgotten as an ally, and for the as many as 27 million of its people who perished.
That's about all for now, and maybe for good. Having already come across in these here parts defenses of race mythology and some of the same biological essentialism of the pseudscience of eugenics as has been carried on by not only by Nazism but by the technofascists of global capitalism now rolling out their final final solution, I'm thinking it's time, or past time, to move on from this echo chamber.
**I say "theater" particularly in recollection of the more recent show by reality TV host President Trump performing his publicized exit from the WHO, only to turn around off stage and increase by seven times as much funds for universal 'vaccination' via the Gates and GAVI, from less than $300 million to over $2 billion, all part of Operation Warp(ed) Speed by this present-day 'populist'.
I have long thought that wars since WW1 also had a purpose of depleting the populace of Patriotic Warriors, leaving only the types we have now in a lot of areas.
Gullible simps, who can’t even change a lightbulb.
A 1938 Stalinist police interrogation of Christian G. Rakovsky, 65, a founder of the Communist International, laid bare the Masonic Jewish banker plot for world tyranny, i.e. the New World Order.
The 50-page transcript of his interrogation dubbed The Red Symphony was not meant to become public. The transcriber made an unauthorized carbon.
This is perhaps the most explosive political document in modern history. It reveals why the Illuminati created Hitler and then sought to destroy him, and why Stalin made a pact with Hitler in 1939.
Christian Rakovsky was a veteran Communist insider facing execution for plotting to overthrow Stalin. Born Chaim Rakover in 1873, he studied medicine in France before becoming a revolutionary. He was the leader of a terror group that attacked government officials.
In 1919, Lenin put him in charge of the Soviet Ukraine government. He retained the territory for the Bolsheviks during the Civil War 1917-1922. Stalin appointed him Russian ambassador to Paris in 1925.
Rakovsky belonged to the powerful Trotskyite faction that took their orders from the Rothschilds. Many of this group were shot in Stalin's 1937 Communist Party purge.
Haven't even heard of him, but the Book of Elders nicely describes the past 120 years up to the present; it doesn't matter if it's a forgery or not, because the plot definitely exists and the people behind it have never been properly identified, unless the couple of dozen "elite" banking families count as such.
I have read Hitler’s poorly written rambling manifesto ‘come book’, cover to cover three times. One thing that is extremely apparent... is that he saw ‘perpetual war’ as the means towards establishing and maintaining a thousand year German reich. I’ve also read that both the Rothschilds and Rockefellers financed both sides of both the 1st and 2nd world wars.
Which book are you talking about? Have you tried "My Kampf?"
The two Rs wanted to destroy Germany and used the SU for the purpose. Why didn't they finance the final defeat of the SU after Germany's defeat? In comparison, today, Russia has $170 trillion in natural resources, while the US has 40, and 30 of that is only coal...
Yes.. I’m talking about ‘My Kampf’… that book should be a quarter the thickness that it is. But as we know, Hitler was an absolute master at repetition and driving his point home (as a public speaker that is) - but it doesn’t work too well in print. As for tackling the SU after the 2nd world war… that would have turned the entire world into a pile of smouldering ashes. Nobody would have benefited. Not even the masters behind the plan.
He was possibly the most successful public speaker in the 20th century, and it is probably quite safe to say, since Cicero. Rambling or not, did he tell the truth? According to Goebbels, good propaganda is always based on the truth (it is actually the Anglo-Saxon mass manipulation that is based on telling the same lie over and over).
The Soviets were completely exhausted, while the US had a fresh army. Why did the US ally itself with the mass murderer, Stalin, whose openly-declared objective was to turn the world into a single state of communism? That's the million-dollar question!
Monty (Montgomery) didn't want to participate in the methodical killing of Germans in concentration camps after the war (including women and children), so he went home. The French and the Americans were less nice.
As for the “million dollar question”… I imagine at the time, the US administration regarded Hitler as being the more ‘immediate threat’. Let’s not forget.. the US only got involved because of Pearl Harbor… and the Japanese were German allies. As we know… it was the Soviets who lost the most number of people in bringing down the Nazi war machine. Many people believe WW2 ended with the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but the truth is, it never actually ended at all. What was the cold war but two players taking time out in a giant chess match. Of course the US gained an appetite for war, and has been at it ever since. As for Hitler speaking the truth… he was definitely speaking “his truth”. And I’m guessing.. perhaps yours as well.
According to some historians, Stalin was concentrating attacking troops near the German border, preparing for the occupation of Europe. The Germans were left with little choice but attack the Soviet Union. Although many people say many things, this is the only logical explanation for the otherwise-nonsensical repetition of Napoleon's "mistake."
It's also weird why the US didn't finish off the Soviet Union as Patton suggested; the US was supposed to be "anti-communist" and the communist ideology included the goal of occupying the world. The US and the Soviet leadership apparently had something in common and served a shared agenda.
I agree many people say many things. All I go by is Products, not words. Hitler and Stalin were Both Tyrants, allowing no dissenting opinions. Both had millions of deaths on their hands. FDR was a big Gov Tyrant as well, with even Democrats in Congress eager to impose the Two Term Law for presidents after his death.
The Banksters seem to have come up with a Consolidation of All Tyrannical "Isms" for their UN-NWO. Peasants and (Billionaire) Royality all pver again.
It won't work even if "successful" as the NWO leaders will end up fighting Each Other to be "The Ruler of the World",
I wold prefer we play a New Game of Nations at peace because the people want no more wars and will not fight their fellow man. A Sane Worls in other words.
The article is meant to encourage people to think about where their money is from.
Sorry, I cannot engage in a conversation about comparing Hitler with Stalin, because it would already be a subject, where historical revisionism should be allowed, but that has been declared illegal (one might wonder, why) in 19 countries under penalty of imprisonment, so it's not fair to speak freely, while others are muzzled. Of course, calling FDR a tyrant might create free admission to the "domestic t*ist" list, just the same. :) US presidency became a representative position after JFK, but even before that, it was mostly held by 33rd-degree Masons, which included FDR.
From an academic point of view, however, it can be posited that ALL governments are tyrnnical, because their power is based on force.
Sadly, by the time the NWO "leaders" kill each other off, the vast majority of people will be gone, especially those, whose blood stays untainted (which is nearly completely impossible for those in the West). Until then, they are running the show and a large variety of depopulation methods are in the works. WW3, in my opinion, will happen only on TV, following a few real nuclear false flags in metropolitan areas. Famine, the food riots, further (deadlier) chemicals and 5G poisoning imitating new "pandemics," year-long blackouts will do the trick; no real war is needed, but martial law can be expected after enough people killed enough people during "the plague" and "the famine."
Seems plausable. I just follow the John Hancock signature example. I always operate within the the protections of the 1st Amendment, not that I expect the Ferals to respect that. All the best, It's quite the time to be alive as long as it lasts this time :-)
Certain elements definitely supported both sides (actually, there were more), but that is the part that must be clarified. If the globalist bankers were kicked out, they were unlikely to be used by Germany. Another commenter suggested it was the Swiss banks, which stands to reason.
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My silly guess is that the same 'ball of money and power' that 'protects'/gives special status to Switzerland/WEF headquarters still (protection from attacks, highest point in Europe literally) is what Hitler the Austrian drew from as well. How close a relationship did Austria and Switzerland have then? and now? I am sure there are certain families interspersed between the 2 countries.
Yes, probably the same Swiss entities are listening to me talk to you on Swiss based Protonmail. I know I am, and all in all my email change seems a stupid move, in an effort to get away from gmail. Any thoughts on Protonmail from Switzerland? The mirage of Swiss neutrality grows ever thinner for me. Oops, gone. Best
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but with claimed 'encryption', how would we know for sure? ;\ i dont mind being poor but i hate being gullible. The appearance of the new Protonmail, timing wise, also seems suspect to me. No, I do not trust anything anymore, it's quite off putting but oh well...best
I have given up on secrecy quite a few years ago. There are other strategies to confuse the AI (one of those I described in my previous article about USPS).
Ah yes, I do also love to marinade pork in leftover feta brine! Its really yummy! I think your advice on cooking it is really helpful, and in the end it's much more fun to eat!
But, like all modern day products, the authenticity and overall quality of dictators was better back then. Made of stronger materials, louder, longer lasting, less see though... etc etc.
They just don't make 'em like they used to.
Probably something to do with the growth of social media and the ease with which one can get up the ladder nowadays?
My best guess is that they are only working together and in the end, they will fight if off among themselves, because they know they are not to be trusted and only One can rule.
Chinese and Communists play the Long Game. Combined the ChiComs are formidable. Only susceptible to Domestic Unrest/Revolt as are All Tyrannies including the current USSA Coup Ferals.
FIB Counter Intel Cyber was investigating Chinese Company regarding 2020 sElections, but "canned it" due to Political Pressure from FIB HQ. ChiCom computer servers in China have the USA Election Info from 2020 and it is "Interactive" not merely storage. 2022 sElections ARE NOT SECURE and MACHINE SECURITY BREECHES ARE STILL WIDE OPEN TO THE CHICOMS.
The age-old Chinese strategy is economic occupation, much like the US has been doing it, but the US is now out of juice, because it is being systematically destroyed by its owners, who don't even live in the country.
The Chinese consider themselves superior and will never treat other races as equals.
Versailles seems to me... A direct ticking bomb to help start WWII. I have absolutely no evidence. But only an idiot, a mean one , would have written it...
Benjamin Freedman was an insider and worked with Bernard Baruch (yesterday's Soros/Rothschild agent) and he witnessed the behind the scenes intrigues that got America into WW1. He says that when Britain was losing the war, the Zionists in Europe went to Britain and said you don't have to make peace with Germany, you can still win this war if America joins your side of the war. We can get America to join if you will give us Palestine. So Britain made the deal and gave them the Balfour Declaration, and then the Zionists went to work on Wilson the puppet and got America into the war, which led to the deaths of 116,000 Americans.
Where’s Gerald Nye When We Need Him? Nye Committee’s 1936 Report on Banksters’, Arms Dealers’ Warmongering
In a speech, Sen. Nye argued that “the record of facts makes it altogether fair to say that these bankers were at the heart and center of a system that made our going to war inevitable.”
The committee documented the huge profits that arms factories had made during the war. It found that bankers had pressured U.S. President Woodrow Wilson to intervene in the war in order to protect their loans abroad. Also, the arms industry was at fault for price fixing and held excessive influence on American foreign policy leading up to and during the Great War [World War I (WWI)].
Winter Watch Takeaway: The great unheralded largely memory holed Gerald Nye deserves admiration and credit for standing up to the Crime Syndicate system that was overwhelming the planet, for his devotion to the America First cause – and for peace.
I think he gave the citizens interest free loans to buy or build their houses as well. The economy started booming when he did away with usury. Wherever he got the money, it's was obviously easier to do 9 decades ago. Those loopholes/allies aren't there anymore.
What I've thought about a fair bit is if I build a house and pay for it with a mortgage, and the final bill for the house is comprised of a number of costs: Land, building materials, labour, and a whole raft of government consents that must also be paid. Then there is tax on the land, the materials and even the man-hours (labour) to build it as well as tax on the pieces of paper I need otherwise known as consents. These consents nowadays can make up 10-20% of the total cost, if not more. Then I must pay interest on my mortgage on top of the costs including tax. Over a 30 year mortgage this means I end up paying the original loan amount 3 times over. AND...the loan from the bank was generated out of thin air when I signed the loan agreement merely based on my ability to repay it. BUT we won't go there now. Just my musings on why it's so difficult to get ahead. The system is designed that way. Oops, This is bound to set off some alarms for the thought police. Someone is beginning to reason for themselves and think independently again....
Ezekiel 18:13 "He lends at interest and takes a profit. Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he is to be put to death; his blood will be on his own head."
How much more so when they create the money out of thin air they lend you and still charge interest on it? Actually it is your own money they are lending you at interest because it is "created" on your future ability to repay it plus interest! I spoke to a banker the other day who told me they don't even hold 3% of all the balances/savings in bank accounts in cash either. 97% is unaccounted for in reality. That's why runs on the banks are such a problem ,it's a big ponzi scheme. There really is very little physical money and it's not backed by anything substantial like gold, but we work most of our lives to pay off debts.
He was surely the last to challenge the "establishment."
people knew ...
That was wonderful! :)
.......Wonderful that IG Farben lived to morph eventually into BAYER/MONSANTO........the Corporatocracy has more lives than a polecat....
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/98241616
Hitler's mother, before she died, was treated by a Jewish physician. Hitler even sent him two postcards later on (and/or two of his paintings, I forget) as a token of his gratitude, so his attitude towards Jews was not necessarily hatred. It is a further problem that there is no such thing as "Jews," only several types of Jewry that are not even connected to each other.
Hitler thought that the international banking cartel was the result of a global Jewish conspiracy, but it turns out that while the cabal has some forms of Jewish ancestry, they despise the rest of the Jews or use them as fronts or as patsies (among whom, as far as I can see, they include the Zionists, too). Many Germans after WW2 thought that Hitler's biggest mistake was that he went after "the Jews," but I think, he made the "Qaddafi mistake," when he wanted to get rid of the control by the cabal.
From what I can tell, in Mein Kampf, Hitler made no great distinction between any ‘different forms of Jewry’ .. As far as he was concerned… a Jew was a Jew was a Jew. It all basically came down to bloodline. My wife is German (Bavarian)… I’ve seen ‘with my own eyes’, the “official stamped documents” her grandparents needed as proof that they satisfied the Nazi officials there was ‘no Jewish ancestry in their bloodline’. I know this is more than likely going to get us well offside, but I think you know by know (much like yourself)… I’m a guy who ‘speaks his truth’.
Yes, Hitler's non-differentiation between the globalist fake Jews and real Jews (most of whom, as opposed to anti-semitic propaganda, don't consider you a bovine (which is what a "goy" is supposed to mean) cost Germany the war losses. He lost the war, because he wanted Germany to become independent (that's what I call the "Gaddafi mistake"; Gaddafi wanted to issue a gold-based African currency, which didn't end well for him -- remember Killary's gloating!).
Hitler still didn't treat all Jews as enemies. Before his mother died, her doctor was Jewish and Hitler remembered him with respect and affection later on (sent him postcards and gave him two of his paintings, if I recall it accurately).
I'm not sure what your point is after "My wife is Bavarian..." Quite a few German officials had some Jewish blood in them and that included some of the SS, too. The problem is that both the official and the revisionist history are full of contradictions.
Ray, I have to ask... so what's your basic overall view of Hitler and the SS? Do you believe they were 'in a way' kind of misrepresented by broader history? Like they were perhaps 'misunderstood patriots', just trying to do good for their people and their nation..? -- Or something like that..?
It doesn't matter what I think.
This page belongs to my readers!
In 19 countries, people can go to prison only for asking questions... It is not fair to them for us to start a discussion in which they are forbidden to participate.
But I want to know what you think...
Now is the winter of our discontent...and it's once again springtime for Hitler and Germany!* Not about to do any in-depth research for the history, or mythology, recounted here, especially since its revisionism has prohibited any questioning of revisionism, in recognition of state censorship (wink, wink) and in solidarity with those victimized for their valiant stands on behalf of fascism - absent much if any care for those victimized by fascism.
In this respect, perhaps one good place to start 'our' merely 'academic' inquiry is at the start of this wide-ranging rant: "As opposed to the myths by posterity, the vast majority of Germans loved Adolph Hitler." Not clear what basis there is for this (latter) claim. The highest percentage of the German electorate received by Hitler and the Nazis - for whatever vote counts, hardly a measurement of 'love', are worth in rigged rituals of 'representative' government - was just a little over 37%. And for whatever "lies, damned lies, and statistics" (Twain) are worth, does the author have access to other polling data in the early days of Gallup?
Indications on the ground in 1930s Germany was that a major base of support for the Nazis, apart from the vagaries of politics, were the jackbooted thugs like the SA terroizing the general population through select targets, principally working class people and their organizations from unions to communists, who along with 'defectives' like the disabled were first in line for untermenschen, with other usual suspects like the Jews, Slavs, homosexuals (including the purge of the gay-spirited SA in the Night of the Long Knives), Gypsies or Romany, and more soon enough to join them. This reign of terror all the more reinforced less populous middle class people driven by fear in desperate times of economic insecurity to serve as Hitler's principal political base (he was 'cleaning up the streets' of the underclass criminal element. etc., etc.).
The Nazis 'improved' the economy principally by militarism, an all too common answer to problems of class war on the home fronts of industrial capitalist economies contributing to WW2's repeat of imperialist bloodbath. (The 'solution' of military Keynesianism was made permanent here post-WW2 to insure 'prosperity' relative to domestic subjects like the white race of Pax/Pox Americana, which contributed to the creeping fascism of U$, Inc. that now converges upon the New (ab)Normal Wolrd Order.)
While militarism employed armies of labor to the disproportionate advantage of owners of industry, workers' wages and benefits were slashed across the economy, complementing union busting and busting of heads by paramilitaries. Consumer society was supported by subsidy and price control, eventually necessitating greater resource grabs in the name of atonement for Versailles, while other compensatory crumbs were thrown the masses in such specatcle as Nuremberg came to epitomize. Bread and circuses, as the Romans practiced, now an adavnced science in ways all too comfortable for many good Amerikaners.
This kind of 'healthy' bizzness climate was why the big money as well as big guns of German industry and finance backed der Fuhrer, just like Italian capitalists rallied to Il Duce. And the maintenance of worldwide class rule was why the Bank for International Settlements (the BIS, today's central bank of central banks), nominally established 1930 to manage debt payments by Germany to WW1 victors, effectively funded the Third Riech and WW2. Whatever role it may or may not have played after 1933 and theatrics over international finance and the Jewish question** was amply balanced by foreign capital flocking to Germany for its 'stability'.
As usual, U$, Inc.'s corporate capital demonstrated its favoritism for dictatorship over democracy in collusion with Nazism - Rockefeller's Chase Bank and Standard Oil (aka Esso, particularly in partnership with IG Farben, a chemical and phrameutical leader in the 'final solution' trade), GE (most heavily invested in the Krupps arms industry), Coca-Cola (Fanta Orange) , GM (Opel), Ford (Henry was proudly antisemitic and fascist), Kodak (proud employer of slave labor in the concentration camps), IBM (reflecting CEO Thomas Watson's fondness for Adolph by supplying the punch card system for classification, and disposal of, concentration camp prisoners), Random House (major propaganda publisher for Goebbels and the gang). Most of these and other American companies carried on their grizly bizzness operations before, during, and after the war, even receiving reparations for damages, compliments of American taxpayers (working class people). Yet none dare call it treason, even as American soldiers (working class people) died while this orgnaized crime against humanity played whatever side was profitable.
No doubt our own fascist ruling class found some consolation in Germany after failure of their own planned coup in the US, exposed by General Smedley Butler when he was approached to lead the overthrow of FDR (another one of those bits of American history left out of standard textbook accounts). But we also should not ignore how the Nazis found inspiration from their own previous examples here, from Lebensraum carrying on such good old Amerikkkan traditions as Manifest Destiny clearing the land of 'savages' to Nazi doctors and medicine drawing on precedents of poulation control like Anglo-American eugenics. Nor should we overlook how Nazi propaganda built on Ango-American perfection of this science of social engineering, consolidated with WW1. It only stands to reason that such covert ops as Paperclip brought Nazi scientists to the US to lend their expertise to post-WW2 developments like MK-Ultra mind control and MK-Naomi bio-chemical warfare, or that the CIA more recently seeded and cultivated neoNazis in Ukraine since at least the 2014 coup.
Reference to Ukraine, and the way it's currenly being used to wage proxy war against Russia (Eurasia always having been a grand prize on the geopolticial chessboard), brings us back around to the role of the USSR at the time of the Nazis past. Allied powers, prior to their alliance against Germany, were more than accommodating, in the manner of Chamberlain, if not allied with the Nazis. They promised to be a bulwark if not battering ram against the communist regime, a continuing force of containment and destabilization the allies of WW1 had initiated in invasion of Russia following the 1917 revolution.
No matter to what degree that original revolution and establishment of a wokers' state had been betrayed under Stalinism, western capitalist powers still approached its symbolc power for its own working class masses as the primary threat to their rule. This also largely explains why British and American forces were used to fight antifascists in Italy, Greece, and elsewhere at war's end, also representing the threat of a good example to working classes, and instead set up in power some of the same fascist collaborators once deemed the enemy.
Stalin negotiated the short-lived pact with Hitler in strategic recognition of this typical preference of capitalism for fascism. Only when Nazi (false flag) invasion of Poland no longer served to form a buffer zone (and invasion routes into Russia) as conventionally reserved for eastern Europe, and rather served as a signal of Germany's threat to western imperialism, along with Germany's penetration of the Balkans and routes to mideast oil reserves, reminiscent of WW1, did the geopolitical game change.
Contrary to western imperialism, the USSR was about anything but worldwide conquest, confined to socialism in one country as Stalin defined it in doing away with international revolution, and its original advocates in mass purges. Still emerging from a primarily agricultural, peasant base of an economy and rebuilding from the devastation of WW1 (and invasions), the USSR was furiously, at the toll of millions of lives, fast-forwarding industrial capitalism under bureaucratic rule of the party, rather than private capital. Yet if any of the allied powers of WW2 deserves credit for defeating Nazi Germany (which perhaps is cause only for lament among many here?), it's the USSR, often forgotten as an ally, and for the as many as 27 million of its people who perished.
That's about all for now, and maybe for good. Having already come across in these here parts defenses of race mythology and some of the same biological essentialism of the pseudscience of eugenics as has been carried on by not only by Nazism but by the technofascists of global capitalism now rolling out their final final solution, I'm thinking it's time, or past time, to move on from this echo chamber.
*The Producers - Springtime for Hitler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvM_JpqViBA
**I say "theater" particularly in recollection of the more recent show by reality TV host President Trump performing his publicized exit from the WHO, only to turn around off stage and increase by seven times as much funds for universal 'vaccination' via the Gates and GAVI, from less than $300 million to over $2 billion, all part of Operation Warp(ed) Speed by this present-day 'populist'.
Cynthia asks great questions too
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Really interesting.
These last few years have pulled back the veil.
Whether by pure arrogance or God.
The once covert Psychopaths are in full display.
I have long thought that wars since WW1 also had a purpose of depleting the populace of Patriotic Warriors, leaving only the types we have now in a lot of areas.
Gullible simps, who can’t even change a lightbulb.
Just a thought. Zero proof
Still, sounds good enough! :)
Arrogance; they think too much about themselves, because they are usurping all power.
Only their plan has been revealed. The visible agents are only the errand boys and girls.
Who do you believe is the top layer?
It looks like the biggest banking families and a few royalties.
Have you read The Red Symphony?
A 1938 Stalinist police interrogation of Christian G. Rakovsky, 65, a founder of the Communist International, laid bare the Masonic Jewish banker plot for world tyranny, i.e. the New World Order.
The 50-page transcript of his interrogation dubbed The Red Symphony was not meant to become public. The transcriber made an unauthorized carbon.
This is perhaps the most explosive political document in modern history. It reveals why the Illuminati created Hitler and then sought to destroy him, and why Stalin made a pact with Hitler in 1939.
Christian Rakovsky was a veteran Communist insider facing execution for plotting to overthrow Stalin. Born Chaim Rakover in 1873, he studied medicine in France before becoming a revolutionary. He was the leader of a terror group that attacked government officials.
In 1919, Lenin put him in charge of the Soviet Ukraine government. He retained the territory for the Bolsheviks during the Civil War 1917-1922. Stalin appointed him Russian ambassador to Paris in 1925.
Rakovsky belonged to the powerful Trotskyite faction that took their orders from the Rothschilds. Many of this group were shot in Stalin's 1937 Communist Party purge.
Haven't even heard of him, but the Book of Elders nicely describes the past 120 years up to the present; it doesn't matter if it's a forgery or not, because the plot definitely exists and the people behind it have never been properly identified, unless the couple of dozen "elite" banking families count as such.
Red Symphony is a fascinating read and can be found free at: https://archive.org/details/red-symphony
Thanks!
I have read Hitler’s poorly written rambling manifesto ‘come book’, cover to cover three times. One thing that is extremely apparent... is that he saw ‘perpetual war’ as the means towards establishing and maintaining a thousand year German reich. I’ve also read that both the Rothschilds and Rockefellers financed both sides of both the 1st and 2nd world wars.
Which book are you talking about? Have you tried "My Kampf?"
The two Rs wanted to destroy Germany and used the SU for the purpose. Why didn't they finance the final defeat of the SU after Germany's defeat? In comparison, today, Russia has $170 trillion in natural resources, while the US has 40, and 30 of that is only coal...
Yes.. I’m talking about ‘My Kampf’… that book should be a quarter the thickness that it is. But as we know, Hitler was an absolute master at repetition and driving his point home (as a public speaker that is) - but it doesn’t work too well in print. As for tackling the SU after the 2nd world war… that would have turned the entire world into a pile of smouldering ashes. Nobody would have benefited. Not even the masters behind the plan.
He was possibly the most successful public speaker in the 20th century, and it is probably quite safe to say, since Cicero. Rambling or not, did he tell the truth? According to Goebbels, good propaganda is always based on the truth (it is actually the Anglo-Saxon mass manipulation that is based on telling the same lie over and over).
The Soviets were completely exhausted, while the US had a fresh army. Why did the US ally itself with the mass murderer, Stalin, whose openly-declared objective was to turn the world into a single state of communism? That's the million-dollar question!
Monty (Montgomery) didn't want to participate in the methodical killing of Germans in concentration camps after the war (including women and children), so he went home. The French and the Americans were less nice.
As for the “million dollar question”… I imagine at the time, the US administration regarded Hitler as being the more ‘immediate threat’. Let’s not forget.. the US only got involved because of Pearl Harbor… and the Japanese were German allies. As we know… it was the Soviets who lost the most number of people in bringing down the Nazi war machine. Many people believe WW2 ended with the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but the truth is, it never actually ended at all. What was the cold war but two players taking time out in a giant chess match. Of course the US gained an appetite for war, and has been at it ever since. As for Hitler speaking the truth… he was definitely speaking “his truth”. And I’m guessing.. perhaps yours as well.
Prescott Bush, and the "Walker" found in H "W" Bush's name. Bankster FUND Both Sides of Wars.
Hitler was not "as Bad" as Stalin, not much consolation to the Population Reductions of WW II.
and the NWO Banksters will Do It Again!!!
This time they are cooperating worldwide.
According to some historians, Stalin was concentrating attacking troops near the German border, preparing for the occupation of Europe. The Germans were left with little choice but attack the Soviet Union. Although many people say many things, this is the only logical explanation for the otherwise-nonsensical repetition of Napoleon's "mistake."
It's also weird why the US didn't finish off the Soviet Union as Patton suggested; the US was supposed to be "anti-communist" and the communist ideology included the goal of occupying the world. The US and the Soviet leadership apparently had something in common and served a shared agenda.
I agree many people say many things. All I go by is Products, not words. Hitler and Stalin were Both Tyrants, allowing no dissenting opinions. Both had millions of deaths on their hands. FDR was a big Gov Tyrant as well, with even Democrats in Congress eager to impose the Two Term Law for presidents after his death.
The Banksters seem to have come up with a Consolidation of All Tyrannical "Isms" for their UN-NWO. Peasants and (Billionaire) Royality all pver again.
It won't work even if "successful" as the NWO leaders will end up fighting Each Other to be "The Ruler of the World",
I wold prefer we play a New Game of Nations at peace because the people want no more wars and will not fight their fellow man. A Sane Worls in other words.
The article is meant to encourage people to think about where their money is from.
Sorry, I cannot engage in a conversation about comparing Hitler with Stalin, because it would already be a subject, where historical revisionism should be allowed, but that has been declared illegal (one might wonder, why) in 19 countries under penalty of imprisonment, so it's not fair to speak freely, while others are muzzled. Of course, calling FDR a tyrant might create free admission to the "domestic t*ist" list, just the same. :) US presidency became a representative position after JFK, but even before that, it was mostly held by 33rd-degree Masons, which included FDR.
From an academic point of view, however, it can be posited that ALL governments are tyrnnical, because their power is based on force.
Sadly, by the time the NWO "leaders" kill each other off, the vast majority of people will be gone, especially those, whose blood stays untainted (which is nearly completely impossible for those in the West). Until then, they are running the show and a large variety of depopulation methods are in the works. WW3, in my opinion, will happen only on TV, following a few real nuclear false flags in metropolitan areas. Famine, the food riots, further (deadlier) chemicals and 5G poisoning imitating new "pandemics," year-long blackouts will do the trick; no real war is needed, but martial law can be expected after enough people killed enough people during "the plague" and "the famine."
Seems plausable. I just follow the John Hancock signature example. I always operate within the the protections of the 1st Amendment, not that I expect the Ferals to respect that. All the best, It's quite the time to be alive as long as it lasts this time :-)
This is pure conjecturing, based on my process of deduction by exclusion. It usually works. :)
Indeed, let's live like human beings for the little time that's left!
At US courts, the judge rules; even a jury wouldn't save anyone, when evidence is disallowed by the judge...
Mindkét oldalt ugyanaz a háttérhatalom pénzelte, Drábik János több videója nagyon részletesen kifejti ezt, ő régóta e téma kutatója Magyarországon.
https://youtu.be/SdCvNG8PNSE
Certain elements definitely supported both sides (actually, there were more), but that is the part that must be clarified. If the globalist bankers were kicked out, they were unlikely to be used by Germany. Another commenter suggested it was the Swiss banks, which stands to reason.
My silly guess is that the same 'ball of money and power' that 'protects'/gives special status to Switzerland/WEF headquarters still (protection from attacks, highest point in Europe literally) is what Hitler the Austrian drew from as well. How close a relationship did Austria and Switzerland have then? and now? I am sure there are certain families interspersed between the 2 countries.
Swiss banks were definitely involved. "The US" went after them only like 15 years ago.
Yes, probably the same Swiss entities are listening to me talk to you on Swiss based Protonmail. I know I am, and all in all my email change seems a stupid move, in an effort to get away from gmail. Any thoughts on Protonmail from Switzerland? The mirage of Swiss neutrality grows ever thinner for me. Oops, gone. Best
Protonmail uses encryption, but it's good only if both parties use it.
It's no good against any agencies.
but with claimed 'encryption', how would we know for sure? ;\ i dont mind being poor but i hate being gullible. The appearance of the new Protonmail, timing wise, also seems suspect to me. No, I do not trust anything anymore, it's quite off putting but oh well...best
I have given up on secrecy quite a few years ago. There are other strategies to confuse the AI (one of those I described in my previous article about USPS).
Very soon- a few months to a year the quantum systems launch , encryption nonexistent- except for tail dragging binary systems.
Ah yes, I do also love to marinade pork in leftover feta brine! Its really yummy! I think your advice on cooking it is really helpful, and in the end it's much more fun to eat!
That Time cover of the little guy is simply aped in the present day:
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/TIM191216_INT.jpg?quality=85&w=840
But, like all modern day products, the authenticity and overall quality of dictators was better back then. Made of stronger materials, louder, longer lasting, less see though... etc etc.
They just don't make 'em like they used to.
Probably something to do with the growth of social media and the ease with which one can get up the ladder nowadays?
;)
Thanks. Hugely important question. My guess is that corporate forces in place today were involved. How could it be otherwise?
They were! Perhaps the bankers didn't own everything at the time like today.
Yes there was still maneuvering room after that within the bounds of those Texas S&Ls, lol.
That's perhaps the only reasonable explanation.
Crooked as the day is long these folks.
Too bad the people in control are more into other things than into solving predicaments.
But progress is being made:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/in-case-you-are-in-doubt
Few leads to be had from this article.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar?all=true
League of Nations, Prescott Bush, German companies, British Royalty and banks all had a hand. The business of war and empire is as old as society.
That would be a nice next step to explore!
When and how did today's global criminals unite?
My best guess is that they are only working together and in the end, they will fight if off among themselves, because they know they are not to be trusted and only One can rule.
Chinese and Communists play the Long Game. Combined the ChiComs are formidable. Only susceptible to Domestic Unrest/Revolt as are All Tyrannies including the current USSA Coup Ferals.
FIB Counter Intel Cyber was investigating Chinese Company regarding 2020 sElections, but "canned it" due to Political Pressure from FIB HQ. ChiCom computer servers in China have the USA Election Info from 2020 and it is "Interactive" not merely storage. 2022 sElections ARE NOT SECURE and MACHINE SECURITY BREECHES ARE STILL WIDE OPEN TO THE CHICOMS.
The age-old Chinese strategy is economic occupation, much like the US has been doing it, but the US is now out of juice, because it is being systematically destroyed by its owners, who don't even live in the country.
The Chinese consider themselves superior and will never treat other races as equals.
Versailles seems to me... A direct ticking bomb to help start WWII. I have absolutely no evidence. But only an idiot, a mean one , would have written it...
It's been a long process:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/in-case-you-are-in-doubt
No idiocy was involved; the whole show was run by the same globalist banking cartel even then. The seeds of WW2 were planted on purpose.
Yes, I believe it was all orchestrated. Here's some interesting info about WW1:
Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at Willard Hotel:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/exi1Ceh2Mam1/
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm
Benjamin Freedman was an insider and worked with Bernard Baruch (yesterday's Soros/Rothschild agent) and he witnessed the behind the scenes intrigues that got America into WW1. He says that when Britain was losing the war, the Zionists in Europe went to Britain and said you don't have to make peace with Germany, you can still win this war if America joins your side of the war. We can get America to join if you will give us Palestine. So Britain made the deal and gave them the Balfour Declaration, and then the Zionists went to work on Wilson the puppet and got America into the war, which led to the deaths of 116,000 Americans.
Where’s Gerald Nye When We Need Him? Nye Committee’s 1936 Report on Banksters’, Arms Dealers’ Warmongering
https://www.winterwatch.net/2023/02/wheres-gerald-nye-when-we-need-him-nye-committees-1936-report-on-banksters-arms-dealers-warmongering-2/
In a speech, Sen. Nye argued that “the record of facts makes it altogether fair to say that these bankers were at the heart and center of a system that made our going to war inevitable.”
The committee documented the huge profits that arms factories had made during the war. It found that bankers had pressured U.S. President Woodrow Wilson to intervene in the war in order to protect their loans abroad. Also, the arms industry was at fault for price fixing and held excessive influence on American foreign policy leading up to and during the Great War [World War I (WWI)].
Winter Watch Takeaway: The great unheralded largely memory holed Gerald Nye deserves admiration and credit for standing up to the Crime Syndicate system that was overwhelming the planet, for his devotion to the America First cause – and for peace.
Yes. I wasn't clear... It was the cult or idiots... Agree, it was cult.