The fanatics in charge of Ukraine are an example of 'mass formation'. They are true believers, and their willingness to use violence makes them dangerous to everyone outside their cult. By taking on a formidable adversary, they have succeeded in destroying their homeland. Needless to say, that formidable adversary is not the Ukrainian people. They are little more than spectators, or cannon fodder.
Could a similar disaster occur on the basis of 'public health' instead of racial superiority?
Of course it could.
Why do some people (including former academics) have an issue with this sociological theory? Does it upset your black and white view of the world? Your notions of good versus evil? Courage versus cowardice?
It's been obvious that there are people who go along to get along, who are coerced, or who aren't morally offended by a particular measure. Then there are those who weren't coerced, who aren't acting out of fear, and find validation in the exact same measure. It is intellectually dishonest to fail to draw a distinction between these cohorts, or to examine their motives.
Individual action, as in martyrdom, is useless. Unless you yourself are a true believer. According to one theory, fanatics want to erase their individuality; their place in society.
Individual action, in speaking out, appears to be our only weapon. Thus, Jon Rappoport will speak out on the non-existence of viruses, as an issue that cannot be ignored. He, just like Mathias Desmet, will be dismissed by those who disagree. Dismissal is not productive.
My impression was similar. The term doesn't seem to have much substance to it, but I can't say for certain without looking more into it. However, the topic doesn't excite me, so I'll have to pass on it and sit on the sidelines on this one. ;)
The part that mass formation, however flawed, might help to explain is the absolute intransigence of people who believe, and their stubborn refusal even to listen to or read information that contradicts their adopted world view. Referring to that phenomenon as hypnosis does help to explain their behavior. Is it simply cognitive dissonance that is being labeled as mass hypnosis? Perhaps. Either way, one of the most frustrating aspect of this disaster is the closed mindedness of people who, still wearing masks, simply will not even try to understand what the rest of us understood from the beginning.
Ray, I imagine you’ve probably noticed by now... that I have myself, on quite a number of occasions, referred to Mattias Desmet and his theory on mass formation in various posts.
Call me an idiot if you will... but I still firmly believe there’s quite a bit of merit in his ideas. I don’t believe ‘mass formation’ accounts for 100% of everything that’s happened over the course of the past few years.. but I certainly ‘do believe’ it accounts for a large part of it. I certainly wouldn’t be referring to Desmet as any type of crackpot pseudo scientist, that’s for sure! Although I strongly believe his appearing on the Alex Jones show didn’t exactly do him any favours! That was a big mistake!
Let’s be clear... Desmet's theory on mass formation wasn't just plucked out of thin air as so many would like to believe. It’s based on volumes of published research going as far back as the late 1800s. The two people Desmet refers to the most, i.e.., Gustave Le Bon & Hannah Arendt, pretty much laid down the groundwork towards Desmet's observations on the subject.
Not everyone going along with the draconian rules and restrictions... do so, because they’re afraid of speaking out. No, quite to the contrary... they 100% "fully believe", there is an ongoing worldwide health emergency, and that everything that has.. and continues to be done... is being done for the “greater good” and to protect granny from dying!” These people FULLY BELIEVE THIS CRAP!
Who can deny that trying to reach these people so fixated on the government led, mainstream media fed, "official covid narrative" is very much like trying to reach people who are under some form of hypnosis? Anyone who's tried, knows it's a near impossible task! And let’s not forget Desmet’s repeated pointing out, that the solidarity of the mass formation is not formed between ‘individuals’... but between ‘individuals and the insane ideology itself’.
We all know there are “evil doers” behind all of this, but ask yourself... could these evil doers be pulling off their evil doings, without the ‘willing assistance’ of the hypnotised masses? i.e.. the doctors and the people who continue to inject these toxins into young children, despite all the evidence that's come to light?
The larger percentage of the masses are victims of menticide. Their minds have literally been 'reprogrammed' by almost three years of intensely targeted, military grade, 'SAGE nudge unit orchestrated' psychological manipulation.
As Desmet suggests... around 30% of us, that is... 'the percentage of society that could so easily see through the manipulation' (for whatever number of reasons) managed to escaped it! I don't see what's so difficult to believe about that? We're just smart enough, or aware enough, or suspicious enough.. to see right through the bullshit! Don’t underestimate just how many people still fully believe with every fibre of their being.. that we are all engaged in an heroic battle against a never ending attack from viruses and life threatening medical conditions! These people's minds are totally FRIED!
Way to go Ray💕. JR’s reporting, for a long time, is the reason I questioned the Jabs in the first place. The gang o monsters was salivating to find an excuse to use the MRNA techno jab crap. This Mass Formation, and add on Psychosis just to add some woo for fun, and a great cop out of responsibility for stupid is ‘mass formed’ .
"They can’t just talk about what’s going on in the world and who’s doing what to whom. That would be below them." -- Not "below", above them.
It's not about "intellectuals" making "intellectual garbage." It is about liars, frauds, criminals, and cowards that intentionally lie to and brainwash the public and shape the public's opinion.
The public has been trained to accept and consider only certain information from only certain frauds and pseudo-contrarians, placed for them to follow and worship. That is why every malicious fraud, cunningly promoted by the gov., has millions of followers/views and thousands of paid subscribers, and those who tell the truth have very few.
That's the "mass formation." Of course, I do not use the term in any way it has been presented recently, never even considered that garbage. It was not "recently coined," it has always been there, in the form of the strong (and subtle) propaganda to which the majority responds perfectly.
Not everyone believed in the masks, even while wearing them. If you can't get into a grocery store without one, you wear one and take it off as soon as you get out of the store. Some people told me at the time, but you can order food online. That may be a good solution for some people, but I like to do my own shopping, and wearing a mask in the store enabled me to shop there. Many people were like me: outwardly compliant but not fooled. Ordering online isn't quite the revolutionary act some people think it is, it's as enabling and compliant as wearing a mask to the store, plus you are staying home and outsourcing your life like they want.
In many places nowadays, mask mandates have been dropped, and guess what, far fewer people are wearing masks. The ones who still wear masks are the ones who were fooled. The rest of us are not fooled and probably weren't, even when we complied.
I'm not a cartoon heroine who will murder a security guard or go hungry rather than wear a mask. Protest has to make sense. But I think the people who come up with these "mass" theories aren't aware enough that most people have an inner life, and their public behavior doesn't tell you everything about them. This is why dictators like Ceausescu can be surprised by a sudden overthrow...the people didn't show their feelings until the right moment.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/11/investigative-reports/covid-19-mass-formation-or-mass-atrocity/
The fanatics in charge of Ukraine are an example of 'mass formation'. They are true believers, and their willingness to use violence makes them dangerous to everyone outside their cult. By taking on a formidable adversary, they have succeeded in destroying their homeland. Needless to say, that formidable adversary is not the Ukrainian people. They are little more than spectators, or cannon fodder.
Could a similar disaster occur on the basis of 'public health' instead of racial superiority?
Of course it could.
Why do some people (including former academics) have an issue with this sociological theory? Does it upset your black and white view of the world? Your notions of good versus evil? Courage versus cowardice?
It's been obvious that there are people who go along to get along, who are coerced, or who aren't morally offended by a particular measure. Then there are those who weren't coerced, who aren't acting out of fear, and find validation in the exact same measure. It is intellectually dishonest to fail to draw a distinction between these cohorts, or to examine their motives.
Individual action, as in martyrdom, is useless. Unless you yourself are a true believer. According to one theory, fanatics want to erase their individuality; their place in society.
Individual action, in speaking out, appears to be our only weapon. Thus, Jon Rappoport will speak out on the non-existence of viruses, as an issue that cannot be ignored. He, just like Mathias Desmet, will be dismissed by those who disagree. Dismissal is not productive.
My impression was similar. The term doesn't seem to have much substance to it, but I can't say for certain without looking more into it. However, the topic doesn't excite me, so I'll have to pass on it and sit on the sidelines on this one. ;)
The part that mass formation, however flawed, might help to explain is the absolute intransigence of people who believe, and their stubborn refusal even to listen to or read information that contradicts their adopted world view. Referring to that phenomenon as hypnosis does help to explain their behavior. Is it simply cognitive dissonance that is being labeled as mass hypnosis? Perhaps. Either way, one of the most frustrating aspect of this disaster is the closed mindedness of people who, still wearing masks, simply will not even try to understand what the rest of us understood from the beginning.
You and I butt heads quite a bit Ray.. but that's ok. We're both pretty strong willed individuals.
Ray, I imagine you’ve probably noticed by now... that I have myself, on quite a number of occasions, referred to Mattias Desmet and his theory on mass formation in various posts.
Call me an idiot if you will... but I still firmly believe there’s quite a bit of merit in his ideas. I don’t believe ‘mass formation’ accounts for 100% of everything that’s happened over the course of the past few years.. but I certainly ‘do believe’ it accounts for a large part of it. I certainly wouldn’t be referring to Desmet as any type of crackpot pseudo scientist, that’s for sure! Although I strongly believe his appearing on the Alex Jones show didn’t exactly do him any favours! That was a big mistake!
Let’s be clear... Desmet's theory on mass formation wasn't just plucked out of thin air as so many would like to believe. It’s based on volumes of published research going as far back as the late 1800s. The two people Desmet refers to the most, i.e.., Gustave Le Bon & Hannah Arendt, pretty much laid down the groundwork towards Desmet's observations on the subject.
Not everyone going along with the draconian rules and restrictions... do so, because they’re afraid of speaking out. No, quite to the contrary... they 100% "fully believe", there is an ongoing worldwide health emergency, and that everything that has.. and continues to be done... is being done for the “greater good” and to protect granny from dying!” These people FULLY BELIEVE THIS CRAP!
Who can deny that trying to reach these people so fixated on the government led, mainstream media fed, "official covid narrative" is very much like trying to reach people who are under some form of hypnosis? Anyone who's tried, knows it's a near impossible task! And let’s not forget Desmet’s repeated pointing out, that the solidarity of the mass formation is not formed between ‘individuals’... but between ‘individuals and the insane ideology itself’.
We all know there are “evil doers” behind all of this, but ask yourself... could these evil doers be pulling off their evil doings, without the ‘willing assistance’ of the hypnotised masses? i.e.. the doctors and the people who continue to inject these toxins into young children, despite all the evidence that's come to light?
The larger percentage of the masses are victims of menticide. Their minds have literally been 'reprogrammed' by almost three years of intensely targeted, military grade, 'SAGE nudge unit orchestrated' psychological manipulation.
As Desmet suggests... around 30% of us, that is... 'the percentage of society that could so easily see through the manipulation' (for whatever number of reasons) managed to escaped it! I don't see what's so difficult to believe about that? We're just smart enough, or aware enough, or suspicious enough.. to see right through the bullshit! Don’t underestimate just how many people still fully believe with every fibre of their being.. that we are all engaged in an heroic battle against a never ending attack from viruses and life threatening medical conditions! These people's minds are totally FRIED!
Way to go Ray💕. JR’s reporting, for a long time, is the reason I questioned the Jabs in the first place. The gang o monsters was salivating to find an excuse to use the MRNA techno jab crap. This Mass Formation, and add on Psychosis just to add some woo for fun, and a great cop out of responsibility for stupid is ‘mass formed’ .
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Ha! You have not ben reading Jon before he got on substack. That man is a foul mouthed genius.
If he DIDN'T use "foul language" I'd be suspect. BTW, both of you guy's articles have been spot on, on this subject.
"They can’t just talk about what’s going on in the world and who’s doing what to whom. That would be below them." -- Not "below", above them.
It's not about "intellectuals" making "intellectual garbage." It is about liars, frauds, criminals, and cowards that intentionally lie to and brainwash the public and shape the public's opinion.
The public has been trained to accept and consider only certain information from only certain frauds and pseudo-contrarians, placed for them to follow and worship. That is why every malicious fraud, cunningly promoted by the gov., has millions of followers/views and thousands of paid subscribers, and those who tell the truth have very few.
That's the "mass formation." Of course, I do not use the term in any way it has been presented recently, never even considered that garbage. It was not "recently coined," it has always been there, in the form of the strong (and subtle) propaganda to which the majority responds perfectly.
Not everyone believed in the masks, even while wearing them. If you can't get into a grocery store without one, you wear one and take it off as soon as you get out of the store. Some people told me at the time, but you can order food online. That may be a good solution for some people, but I like to do my own shopping, and wearing a mask in the store enabled me to shop there. Many people were like me: outwardly compliant but not fooled. Ordering online isn't quite the revolutionary act some people think it is, it's as enabling and compliant as wearing a mask to the store, plus you are staying home and outsourcing your life like they want.
In many places nowadays, mask mandates have been dropped, and guess what, far fewer people are wearing masks. The ones who still wear masks are the ones who were fooled. The rest of us are not fooled and probably weren't, even when we complied.
I'm not a cartoon heroine who will murder a security guard or go hungry rather than wear a mask. Protest has to make sense. But I think the people who come up with these "mass" theories aren't aware enough that most people have an inner life, and their public behavior doesn't tell you everything about them. This is why dictators like Ceausescu can be surprised by a sudden overthrow...the people didn't show their feelings until the right moment.
YOU ARE AWESOME!!!!! YOU NAILED IT WITH A REALLY BIG, BLUNT HAMMER!!!