The best example of permanent, irredeemable hope is Bill McKibbon. Mostly, Ray, I think your "conclusions" are good. And what I get out of this is a better understanding of just how much "fun" it must be for the world controllers to be doing all of this. It is just fun fun fun for these people.
Also, the best time to do one's psycho-spiritual work and build strength and courage was twenty years ago; the second best time is today. Hey, people who fell for the ruse and wake up are often the most ardent supporters of truth and justice!
The CONs will fail — and miserably so — but only for those of us who have done the work. We are creating our *own* reality (yes, given some bizarre constraints and exigencies which are especially difficult to de-program). The rest will become trans-human slaves existing on a separate timeline. In fact, those other timelines are already clear to me, and I often wonder if those "people" are actually NPCs, part of the false-white-light projections.
You see, it is inevitable that the cabal will fail and will probably exterminate its own members, too, while falling victim to their own miscalculations and fights for the ultimate leadership.
The question is, can it happen before they indeed eliminate 95% of the world's population?
What can be done to prevent the mass slaughter in which, eventually, the enforcers will also be taken out?
What I have seen in my life is that only a few decisions, if any, are made in a lifetime that are not direct results of primary socialization or manipulative conditioning. How far are such people still human or are they closer to animals?
Realistically, we're dead meat barring a miracle- but there's still some possible Hopium: the cabal's plan might fall apart on it's own. It's also possible a faction of the cabal opposes the New Normal. I've been following Clif High lately because he offers some Hopium (although more likely he's just crazy).
Do you really think their going to lighten up or have any change of mind after all theses years of planning and preparation! They have it down to a nats rear end!😱
'hopium' is also a condescending term. why go sleep when there's no tomorrow? a large part of our existence would lose meaning without it. in the end all we have is our resilience, a certain lust for life and our creativity, which lie at the bottom of our hope for the better. this is not 'hopium' but basic survival.
As the author and the owner of this site, I do not take sides, because this is a place, where all opinions are welcome and open discussion is encouraged.
Please, provide an example, when hope, or "hopium" is essential the give meaning to human existence. In my experience, it is usually used to imitate or even to replace such a role...
Hope is often used to convince the weak and the disempowered that they have a chance, which keeps them at bay and prevents them from rising up as people, who realize that they have nothing to lose. "Hopium" seems to properly apply to such cases, but sometimes people choose inaction on their own and take hope instead. It IS possible to argue that inaction is superior to serving Evil willingly, which rings true in my understanding.
When is hope not an illusion and when is it even required? These are not academic questions; rather, they are meant to address pragmatic situations. If I may, let me provide an example. When I'm offered a chance to hurt innocent people in return for not being hurt and I reject the offer, I might very well engage in the hope that the situation would end before I get hurt. Even so, my rejection doesn't come from hope, so it doesn't "define my existence."
I am not picking a fight here; simply looking for common grounds and an evolution of your argument.
fair enough. I suppose I look at it on an individual, micro-level point of view and it includes a conditional: "if you do this..... [awful thing] for me, now, I promise you will..... [get rich; be powerful; change into a handsome prince; etc.]". coercion and bribery, it's part of how our parents succeeded in making us do things we didn't like. the child of course hopes that the parents will stick to the deal. the pattern is repeated throughout our life and time and again we hope that we're successful in obtaining the counterpart of the condional. behaviourism, anyone?
so you're absolutely right in pointing out that hope can be manipulated. when one gives an underling hope, there's motivation to carry out whatever is asked to be done. perhaps my interpretation of hope lies on a more spiritual plane. when I say "I hope you'll feel better tomorrow" then that's not something I wish for myself, but genuinely for the other person, who might just feel more motivated. hope also includes looking forward, at some future point in time, which is a positive thing, otherwise we wouldn't be able to grow.
there's more to hope than I eventually thought, so thank you for making that happen!
That's a great insight. As a young man, I acted upon conditioning that had come from primary and secondary socialization, but you just added that the patterns are the same, although during the primary stage, children are conditioned without ever having a chance to resist of even reconsider.
Still, I remember a fantastically-intelligent little boy of about five from about 40 years ago, who was told by his father, "Marcel, if you do this, you won't receive ... " (whatever it was), and Marcel simply shrugged and said, "If I won't, I won't."
I'm not talking about the danger of hope traded in for compliance. That is a game-ender, because the person's independence is voluntarily lost. Fear, in this case, is replaced with hope, but the result is compliance, so the manipulator wins, no matter what, but the person accepts hope over fear, because it's a more pleasant feeling. Either way, the person is giving up resistance of any kind; the "essence of being a person/human being" loses its meaning.
"Spiritually," it is good to hope that the Creator means well...
I expect there will be degrees, its already occurring actually, some places total wipe out (of humans), some places not too bad. Lots of variables to consider.
When the body is sick, if one could be aware in detail of all of the processes that are occurring - all of the cell deaths, all of the imbalances, all of the toxic effects - one could be excused for assuming this body must surely fall apart. Surely, no one can survive such disorderly ravages.
And yet, we regularly survive illnesses and fevers, and soon we are back to 100% capacity. Humanity is having such a fever right now. Everything is wrong, deaths are occurring all over the place, society is trying to function normally, but it is hardly managing to do so, showing serious symptoms.
We don't need to place our hopes into any one thing. For a body to heal, billions of tiny actions just have to go right. The same is true for society. Billions of tiny things have to go right. And they will. :)
World War III is already baked in. Or at least the EMP part of it. How many of us could actually verify that the Kings Bay "sub pens" have been nuked , and I actually live in Georgia!
Or that the ICBM fields have been "taken out?"
Even if you live near them, and have an ancient non electronic control box vehicle, an old dirt bike, for instance, you going to ride down there to check it out? A few curious individuals might, but they will never make it past the fence perimeter, locked down by snipers and electronic monitoring, which is there to protect you from 'radiation.'
And of course, the thousands dying of the "Clot Shot" will be the victims of radiation poisoning.
And starvation, dehydration, the cold, WMD chem/disease agents (imaginary), criminals, technicals, little green men, hell, even 'aliens.'
I even wonder if there is a "link" between the inevitable EMP and the graphene dioxide nano-structures?
Naw, that would be crazy conspiracy talk!
Most people will believe all the warnings of the "attack" and when their iPhone goes down, they will have proof!
Sure, pyrotechnic displays will give visible audible evidence as well.
And of course, the heavily televised episodes we have seen of "Nuclear Missile Attack" popping up on everybody's phone, TV, car radio, electronic billboard, you name it!
Followed rapidly by the flashing message:
"THIS IS NOT A DRILL"
"THIS IS NOT A DRILL"
After instilling sufficient fear and chaos, people will believe anything they hear!
But you won't, that is why you read substack.
Rambo:
“Murdock said he was with 2nd battalion 3rd Marines at Kon Tum in ’66.”
Troutman:
“Yeah.”
Rambo:
“The 2nd Battalion was at Kud Sank. You’re the only one I TRUST”
You are one of the few who are able and willing to count beyond one. :) That's, of course, a liability, not an asset. Either way, I tremendously enjoy your contributions.
Yup, a few holographic flickers in the sky and a flick of the switch can create the illusion of an EMP attack, and it will make no difference if "the Russians" or "solar flares" will be assigned to be blamed.
Radiation, killer virus, whatever; the point is that mortals will enhance their chances to prove how mortal they are, if they push the limits. :)
The illusion of a nuclear attack is also an option, as is a UFO invasion. Even most of the mercenaries (who won't be able to speak English, lest they could be talked out of their mind fog) will believe it.
Their worshippers of a false idol….who is only using them to fan his flames of ego and to pump it up further….and keep the fans in blindness and total darkness! He’s part of the distraction and further takedown of this country! They’ve placed their hope in man…which God forbids!!!
The best example of permanent, irredeemable hope is Bill McKibbon. Mostly, Ray, I think your "conclusions" are good. And what I get out of this is a better understanding of just how much "fun" it must be for the world controllers to be doing all of this. It is just fun fun fun for these people.
Somber
Hope is a wish without a plan.
Also, the best time to do one's psycho-spiritual work and build strength and courage was twenty years ago; the second best time is today. Hey, people who fell for the ruse and wake up are often the most ardent supporters of truth and justice!
The CONs will fail — and miserably so — but only for those of us who have done the work. We are creating our *own* reality (yes, given some bizarre constraints and exigencies which are especially difficult to de-program). The rest will become trans-human slaves existing on a separate timeline. In fact, those other timelines are already clear to me, and I often wonder if those "people" are actually NPCs, part of the false-white-light projections.
You see, it is inevitable that the cabal will fail and will probably exterminate its own members, too, while falling victim to their own miscalculations and fights for the ultimate leadership.
The question is, can it happen before they indeed eliminate 95% of the world's population?
What can be done to prevent the mass slaughter in which, eventually, the enforcers will also be taken out?
What I have seen in my life is that only a few decisions, if any, are made in a lifetime that are not direct results of primary socialization or manipulative conditioning. How far are such people still human or are they closer to animals?
Realistically, we're dead meat barring a miracle- but there's still some possible Hopium: the cabal's plan might fall apart on it's own. It's also possible a faction of the cabal opposes the New Normal. I've been following Clif High lately because he offers some Hopium (although more likely he's just crazy).
That gave me the idea of developing a chain of thought in an article.
How could the technocrats fail?
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/how-can-the-technocrats-fail-is-it
Do you really think their going to lighten up or have any change of mind after all theses years of planning and preparation! They have it down to a nats rear end!😱
Probably not- but Hopium is very addictive.
'hopium' is also a condescending term. why go sleep when there's no tomorrow? a large part of our existence would lose meaning without it. in the end all we have is our resilience, a certain lust for life and our creativity, which lie at the bottom of our hope for the better. this is not 'hopium' but basic survival.
As the author and the owner of this site, I do not take sides, because this is a place, where all opinions are welcome and open discussion is encouraged.
Please, provide an example, when hope, or "hopium" is essential the give meaning to human existence. In my experience, it is usually used to imitate or even to replace such a role...
Hope is often used to convince the weak and the disempowered that they have a chance, which keeps them at bay and prevents them from rising up as people, who realize that they have nothing to lose. "Hopium" seems to properly apply to such cases, but sometimes people choose inaction on their own and take hope instead. It IS possible to argue that inaction is superior to serving Evil willingly, which rings true in my understanding.
When is hope not an illusion and when is it even required? These are not academic questions; rather, they are meant to address pragmatic situations. If I may, let me provide an example. When I'm offered a chance to hurt innocent people in return for not being hurt and I reject the offer, I might very well engage in the hope that the situation would end before I get hurt. Even so, my rejection doesn't come from hope, so it doesn't "define my existence."
I am not picking a fight here; simply looking for common grounds and an evolution of your argument.
Looking forward to further ideas!
fair enough. I suppose I look at it on an individual, micro-level point of view and it includes a conditional: "if you do this..... [awful thing] for me, now, I promise you will..... [get rich; be powerful; change into a handsome prince; etc.]". coercion and bribery, it's part of how our parents succeeded in making us do things we didn't like. the child of course hopes that the parents will stick to the deal. the pattern is repeated throughout our life and time and again we hope that we're successful in obtaining the counterpart of the condional. behaviourism, anyone?
so you're absolutely right in pointing out that hope can be manipulated. when one gives an underling hope, there's motivation to carry out whatever is asked to be done. perhaps my interpretation of hope lies on a more spiritual plane. when I say "I hope you'll feel better tomorrow" then that's not something I wish for myself, but genuinely for the other person, who might just feel more motivated. hope also includes looking forward, at some future point in time, which is a positive thing, otherwise we wouldn't be able to grow.
there's more to hope than I eventually thought, so thank you for making that happen!
That's a great insight. As a young man, I acted upon conditioning that had come from primary and secondary socialization, but you just added that the patterns are the same, although during the primary stage, children are conditioned without ever having a chance to resist of even reconsider.
Still, I remember a fantastically-intelligent little boy of about five from about 40 years ago, who was told by his father, "Marcel, if you do this, you won't receive ... " (whatever it was), and Marcel simply shrugged and said, "If I won't, I won't."
I'm not talking about the danger of hope traded in for compliance. That is a game-ender, because the person's independence is voluntarily lost. Fear, in this case, is replaced with hope, but the result is compliance, so the manipulator wins, no matter what, but the person accepts hope over fear, because it's a more pleasant feeling. Either way, the person is giving up resistance of any kind; the "essence of being a person/human being" loses its meaning.
"Spiritually," it is good to hope that the Creator means well...
I expect there will be degrees, its already occurring actually, some places total wipe out (of humans), some places not too bad. Lots of variables to consider.
When the body is sick, if one could be aware in detail of all of the processes that are occurring - all of the cell deaths, all of the imbalances, all of the toxic effects - one could be excused for assuming this body must surely fall apart. Surely, no one can survive such disorderly ravages.
And yet, we regularly survive illnesses and fevers, and soon we are back to 100% capacity. Humanity is having such a fever right now. Everything is wrong, deaths are occurring all over the place, society is trying to function normally, but it is hardly managing to do so, showing serious symptoms.
We don't need to place our hopes into any one thing. For a body to heal, billions of tiny actions just have to go right. The same is true for society. Billions of tiny things have to go right. And they will. :)
World War III is already baked in. Or at least the EMP part of it. How many of us could actually verify that the Kings Bay "sub pens" have been nuked , and I actually live in Georgia!
Or that the ICBM fields have been "taken out?"
Even if you live near them, and have an ancient non electronic control box vehicle, an old dirt bike, for instance, you going to ride down there to check it out? A few curious individuals might, but they will never make it past the fence perimeter, locked down by snipers and electronic monitoring, which is there to protect you from 'radiation.'
And of course, the thousands dying of the "Clot Shot" will be the victims of radiation poisoning.
And starvation, dehydration, the cold, WMD chem/disease agents (imaginary), criminals, technicals, little green men, hell, even 'aliens.'
I even wonder if there is a "link" between the inevitable EMP and the graphene dioxide nano-structures?
Naw, that would be crazy conspiracy talk!
Most people will believe all the warnings of the "attack" and when their iPhone goes down, they will have proof!
Sure, pyrotechnic displays will give visible audible evidence as well.
And of course, the heavily televised episodes we have seen of "Nuclear Missile Attack" popping up on everybody's phone, TV, car radio, electronic billboard, you name it!
Followed rapidly by the flashing message:
"THIS IS NOT A DRILL"
"THIS IS NOT A DRILL"
After instilling sufficient fear and chaos, people will believe anything they hear!
But you won't, that is why you read substack.
Rambo:
“Murdock said he was with 2nd battalion 3rd Marines at Kon Tum in ’66.”
Troutman:
“Yeah.”
Rambo:
“The 2nd Battalion was at Kud Sank. You’re the only one I TRUST”
Edwin,
You are one of the few who are able and willing to count beyond one. :) That's, of course, a liability, not an asset. Either way, I tremendously enjoy your contributions.
Yup, a few holographic flickers in the sky and a flick of the switch can create the illusion of an EMP attack, and it will make no difference if "the Russians" or "solar flares" will be assigned to be blamed.
Radiation, killer virus, whatever; the point is that mortals will enhance their chances to prove how mortal they are, if they push the limits. :)
The illusion of a nuclear attack is also an option, as is a UFO invasion. Even most of the mercenaries (who won't be able to speak English, lest they could be talked out of their mind fog) will believe it.
Still waiting for Project blue beam to be featured
“Humans are so easy to manipulate: you just give them something to hope for, and you can do whatever you want to do to them.” Ray Horvath :)
Let's put this on a t-shirt!!!!!!!!!!
That explains all the nice people fooled by the “ q” psyop. Lulled into inaction. They’re so hard to talk to, as bad as the Fauxchi fans.
Yes, it does. But it goes further:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/stuck-between-fear-and-hope
That one is a goodie, too!!
(in a plaintive voice) Everybody is quoting great authors... I figured, I might also try my hand on one...
BRAVO
Copied to my "quotes."
It's an age-old form of mass manipulation, but politicians excel at it!
"Change" is what's needed, wouldn't you say? :)
Their worshippers of a false idol….who is only using them to fan his flames of ego and to pump it up further….and keep the fans in blindness and total darkness! He’s part of the distraction and further takedown of this country! They’ve placed their hope in man…which God forbids!!!