(Bet you are knowledgeable about all of this but just can't find the specific no viruses topic in your list.)
It's certainly not a new topic at all but has been banned to hell w/the MSM flogged epitaph of ANTI-VAXXER, - meaning anti-sciency, anti-modern, superstitious & you ignorant moron - and this even in view of the fact that most who speak out against the insanity of vaxx are really EX-VAXXERS.
At least for many since the childhood vaxx schedule went off the rails in 1986 w/Ronnie Raygun's signing the 1986 Childhood Vaccination Act that enabled Big Farma to increase childhood vaxx exponentially - more toxic anti-immunity jabs for our lil kiddos, please! - & to vaxx murder w/absolutely NO liability.
No viruses, means no need for any often injurious & sometimes deadly vaxx (w/dangerous toxins) jabs.
My baby almost died after her 6-month "check-up" w/scripted childhood vaxx & deadly "flu shot". The murderous govt/Farma monsters were up to their necks w/bad karma even way before the C19 scam. :/
Ray - What did you think of the Part 1 episode of The Viral Delusion I linked?? Would love any critique or feedback you can provide. Here's a bitchute link too I also share frequently.
You are partially correct when you say "It's not a question of who is right or who is wrong" but it's really the essential question of the foundation of fallacies/lies underpinning the entire rotten Big Med/Farma "healthcare" system. Lies that are weaponized to endanger, injure & kill us for profits on a regular basis, & not just over the past 3 yrs of a C19 scam.
In March, 2020, I thought that refuting Germ/viral transmission theory would disable the killing machine. I was wrong. Switching from Germ to Terrain would definitely improve sick care, but
1. that's not where the money/power is
2. The globalists can still poison the population (they are doing it), and declare national emergencies accordingly, virus or no virus.
Hammering home the truth of a message is what is important. Not whether it is fully accepted right now or even noticed yet by the majority of folks. There will always be those who are gullible rubes to any & all "sales pitches" but there are also many who will finally see the light if it is constantly repeated & confirmed.
Repetition of all the so-called C19 lies got us into this most recent medical mess & repetition of the truth around "no-viruses" will help us to get out of it.
Believe this has been happening w/C19 over the past year since the PTB have definitely lied about the overall C19 "vaxx" up-take/stats. We know that many millions of "doses" & boosters had to be destroyed over the past year+ when folks just stopped taking jabs & most refused to "C19 vaxx" their kids. Boom.
Ray - I've been off substack for a week so just read your comment to me here tonight. Thanks for the link to your July 21, 2022 stack. (I had checked out all your articles & the title - "Who is right & who is wrong" didn't seem to be related to the "no viruses"/germ theory topic.)
However, I just responded to Christine Massey's comment over at your article once I read it & wanted to respond here about that article too. And I agree with Christine's comment.
Here's my comment to Christine's comment re:"no viruses" that I just posted over there >
I absolutely agree with you here, Christine. There is no greater issue than the lies around germ theory & viruses right now. The entire "Rockefeller Medicine" medical paradigm hangs on the pseudo-scientific lies around disease causation & infectious illnesses, etc. Why doesn't Ray agree??
This book further confirmed to me that the current allopathic medical system is totally BS & completely bankrupt.
[It's the old Hegelian Dialectic as applied by Big Ag, Big Chem, Big Med & Big Farma: create a problem, watch for reactions & then create THE solution you want to sell to folks. Sounds exactly like the past 3 years of the plandemic/scamdemic C19 hoax, doesn't it?]
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To repeat Christine's summary from [her comment]: "As long as people believe in them [the virus/germ theory/ vaccines lies etc], they [govt/farma] will waste time and resources developing useless fraudulent tests, analyzing trends, calculating meaningless statistics, trying to figure out just how bad "it" is and what to do about "it". Respectfully, I couldn't disagree more w/this article."
Busting all the peudoscientific lies around those issues clears the deck for an analysis of all of the actual disease causing toxins in our world & helps create a much better health paradigm.
Remember the kindergarten COP? 1990 movie codes, Girls have a vagina, boys have a penis. Is Kindergarten Cop appropriate for 11-year-olds?
In line with the Motion Picture Association of America PG-13-rating, MCA Universal has told exhibitors that KINDERGARTEN COP is for 13-year-olds and up, but everything about the way the film is being marketed will attract little children.
Luckily, AI cannot do much with contradicting information, so overloading it with that sort of thing might work better than staying away. Also, not revealing my whole hand can work, too.
Talking too much can be good against the AI (well, it's not so good, if one has to listen to nonsense), but it's also important not to reveal all the cards. If you are ever interrogated for a crime you didn't commit, your best chance is just to keep talking. :)
List is good and well covered by 90% of everyone else. No stone left unturned by the globalists as they seek to scare us literally to death. I didn't see gates on the list but am tired of hearing about that parasite anyway.
Haven't commented much lately but I appreciate your willingness to ask for feedback, suggestions, or open your page up for subscriber discussion/debate.
I glanced at the last one about religion... it was mostly people talking about Jesus, so for me, uninteresting & quite frankly, tiresome.... no offense to anyone reading this. But still appreciate that you're even willing to do that - and pleasantly surprised that a few of the opposing views were civil without lashing out.. Imagine that, in this day & age, turns out, some of us CAN act like adults 😉 (I believe in a creator. im just anti-religion. I grew up Catholic, and began questioning it very early in life... so much so, I got kicked out for opposing my father & refused to get up early for church anymore. Whoops.)
Anyway, hope you're doing well. Seems like you're in a similar mindset as me where like ... im just exhausted from all of it. Im at the point where anything "new" doesn't matter much to me anymore - to an extent. Im still naturally curious though... a blessing & a curse at times. But once you realize everything is fucked, governments are all fucked, no one is going to save us, and we live in a very disturbing, evil world, what matters more are solutions, exiting the system, find community, staying sane, and finding balance.
Ok um.... topics... have you done an article on electroculture yet? Im really interested in wanting to plant a garden when we buy a house (had to put it on hold for another year), no idea where to begin but i want to be prepared & have a plan! Electroculture is fascinating but I've only scratched the surface. This is the kind of thing where its easy to get overwhelmed with info, then I overthink it, and my ADHD kicks in and then I'm spinning around in circles for months 😭😂
Strangely, I'm about publish a summary of my approach to religion/philosophy. You might find that your experience has been quite a bit like mine.
As a friend, I am offering you a chance to talk to me. Chances are it will be disappointing, because I'm a simple and unassuming person, but what the heck. You just send me a message replying to any of the notifications about a new post from my site and we can take it from there.
I am looking forward to hearing from you. Sorry, I'm slowing down. 606 posts in a year have been taken their toll on me, but talking is still okay. Other than that, I am slowing down for a week or two (well, not sure; my wonderful wife keeps coming up with new ideas :) ). My wife is the gardener/healer around here, so you are in the right place.
I totally understand. I dont know how people constantly come up with content, keep up with comments & find time to write a meaningful reply. But maybe its because I've turned from social butterfly to complete introvert/recluse after 2020. Its literally been exhausting in more ways than 1. Ive neglected all my socials, ive lost most of my friends, and I suppose I've become a bit of a shut-in. I went home (NY) for the first time in 12 years back in November and everyone was asking where ive been because I disappeared on social media 18 months ago, without a peep (mainly Facebook, for obvious reasons - got tired of FB jail, and the drama is so much worse there). Now I'm kinda kicking myself for becoming a shut-in, and no idea how to dig myself out. How the hell do you meet new people in real life at this age, especially when most of the world are NPC's? Lol 😆
And you never disappoint Ray. Always a curious & interesting conversation and I appreciate you being there for me and others and offering a pleasant, neutral space for us to connect. Ill reciprocate the offer, if you just wanna talk sometime. Although I don't really have a place for you to reach me since I abandoned socials. Instagram maybe? I like looking at pictures of neat stuff & animals so im on there & Substack the most these days 😂
Sarapear23 is my account. Dont judge my page. Lol. I thought I wanted to be an extreme nail artist for a bit. I stopped posting, but im still on it every day.
And your wife sounds lovely! You ever thought about having her guest post on your substack? Would love to see beginner gardening tips 😉 might be a nice escape for you to take a break for a bit too, jus sayin. But don't feel bad if you take a week or 2 off. Seriously. You've earned it!
How about The Master and his Emissary by Iain McGilchrist. The master is the right brain hemisphere, the emissary is the left brain hemisphere. In my opinion, the hopeful global controllers considering themselves Masters of the Planet, are left brain emissaries gone rogue and needing to be put in their place very firmly by a public that is informed so as to be able to stop inappropriately revering their presumed superior genius, a myth cultivated by these owners of ancillary talent themselves. Noah Harari whose brain honestly gives him the faulty feedback that yes it is great for him to try to "intelligently design" the world. Facepalm really. And they need to learn what an embarrassment they really are.
Right and left brain distribution is not consistent, but it gets worse.
Hemispheres can switch, just like a previously right-handed person can become left-handed after an accident. (I was a good ping-pong player at the age of 12, and it took me only a few hours to switch from one hand to the other, and a world champion in the 1950s became a champion with the other hand after an accident.)
Nothing is written in stone. The human being is fantastic in its adaptability.
These freaks, however, can temporarily close down certain data paths in the nervous system, which gives them the impression of invincibility. They WILL learn their places, when the time comes.
I have a lot to say about this.... i won't go too deep but I too got sucked into the Tartaria movement. As I went deeper, I started to see strange parallels with the current world. I dont think its this nice dystopia everyone makes it out to be. The "one-world Tartaria" phrase was the big red flag. Gee, where have I heard something like that before? "One World Government". I also noticed that it has suddenly sky-rocketed in popularity on YouTube, seemly out of nowhere, and the algorithm seems to be PUSHING these videos. We KNOW what the censorship & suppression of trutu is like on that platform, so, another red flag. New channels are popping up every day about Tartaria.
To me, it seems like a red herring. A deliberate distraction. Im not saying its all bullshit. But I think a lot of it is. And a lot of it CAN be explained. I started going down a very different rabbit hole, and sure enough, there are people talking about this and pointing out the inconsistencies, the cherry picking, and the blatant contradictions. They tried to pin-point WHEN and WHERE Tartaria first started popping up... THAT was a very interesting discussion.
I try to look at something all angles. What is the argument FOR it and AGAINST it. What does the mainstream say? What does my experience tell me? Its still an interesting topic but I dont like the hyper-focus on Tartaria, which is constantly conflated with all of the mystery history... and I cant help but feel that is being done intentionally.
My immediate target is hydrogels. They seem to be the stabilizing factor for the G nano capsules. for the delivery into our cells and the release of the payloads. Then of course, it's the frequency interface that can trigger the payloads. But, as far as I can tell, no one seems to know how to get hydrogel out of our bodies. There are some detoxes for graphene, although that can be a mind-field too, but the plastic/hydrogel seems to be a pressing issue, and, of course, another urgency that I see is how to stop the chemtrail spraying - every night and thicker and more poisonous -no more blue skies - and they also contain the nanos with their payloads - and the complete poisoning of the food supply.
Where do we even start? I've always been on poison patrol, so you can imagine that these times are seriously triggering for me...
Overwhelming...impossible...insurmountable...all of it...or maybe we just visualize a fukking pole shift?
Sorry...I'm in a mood...every day the ghoulz just suck the nice right out of me...
Thank you, Ray, you a a ray of hope in this extinction nightmare...and thank you for asking what is triggering us the most...very generous of you...
Dr Rashid Buttar died May 17, a week or so before he was to reveal an antidote to the hydrogels at the Advanced Medical conference. He believed he was poisoned during a CNN interview the year before...he had issues with myocarditis after and died of a stroke. Many colleagues believe he was murdered. Chemtrails like crazy here in SC also.
You know I greatly value your opinion and research so could you expand on that? I may have mentioned somewhere on one of your posts that I have two jabs so of course the podcast you posted freaked me out, I actually saw it on Saturday and spent most of the day pretty solemn.
Everybody is in the same boots by now, irrespective of having or not having received an injection. Even going to the dentist can take care of that. Buttar was wrong in mostly everything, but he called attention to the role of 5G in controlling people. At this point, the injections are probably moot, because even food can be used instead. Mihalcea found next to no difference between "v*d" and "unv*d) blood, so everybody is screwed. As every batch was different and some of the vials contained only saline, it's impossible to break down the potential damages to a single person.
Thank you. I read quite a bit each day on the jabs and have seen Dr Ana’s many articles on the blood looking the same. My batches are rated as severe on howbadismybatch with 114 deaths but my d-dimer was normal but my CD8/CD4 ratio was a little off. I called my doctor about this and he said I had to consult with a hematologist because he didn’t know how to read it and he’s an internist, can you believe it?? I’m in a red state so I’m sure there’s something to that.
It is possible that beyond every batch being different that even within a batch, there was a variety of vials. Saline, for one, was found at the beginning, but I'm not sure how long it was included later.
Kentucky got the highest number of lethal batches. Some blue states were strangely spared quite a bit.
"My immediate target is hydrogels". Mine too at the moment. What other medications they are in and how to rid the body of them. Looking at the moment at slow-release psychiatric injectable medications.
Thank you for being part of the realistic opposition. It is your generosity that makes this site possible.
Hydrogels are a good one. At the same time, lots of people with a lot more expertise than what I possess have written about them and they were reasonably correct. The only aspect of I've been using has been that they are necessary for delivering self-assembling graphene structures, which is making mRNA redundant.
Graphene nanostructures, once they are anchored in the body and light up on bioelectricity, are probably a lot harder to target; I haven't been able to find a countermeasure. Reante is saying that the gut flora would get rid of them, and I'm sure it would, but what it they are already "recognized" by the body by becoming "parts of it"? What if they are anchored somewhere else than the guts?
My wife took a few more photos of chemtrails yesterday. They exhibit regular patterns, but the only thing that gives them away is the chemtrail lines. After a few minutes (not sure how long), the dissolve into stuff that look like miniature cumulus.
Hydrogels seem to be plastic that just accumulate in the body...they are in everything...including lidocaine, and many many medicines you wouldn't think twice about.
they are already "recognized" by the body by becoming "parts of it"?
I THINK SO TOO...IN EVERY CELL BY NOW...EMBEDDED, READY TO BE TRIGGERED TO USHER IN A NEW SCAMDEMIC...ANY ORGAN IN THE BODY CAN BE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED - MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE ANY CONNECTION...GIVES THEM PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY...
I WILL LOOK FOR REANTE, NOT FAMILIAR.
AS FOR THE CHEMTRAILS, THEY ARE SPRAYING CONSTATNLY NOW AND ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY AT NIGHT - OBSCURING. TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN NOTICING....BUT I CAN SMELL THEM...AND THEY NOW CONTAIN THE GO AND PAYLOADS AND HOST OF OTHER POISONOUS THINGS...GEOENGINEERINWATCH HAS DONE SAMPLING ON THE CHEMS RECENTLY AND THEY ARE FAR BEYOND THE ORIGINAL POISONS NOW, WITH ALL THE DEADLY METALS THAT THEY'VE BEEN SPRAYING FOR DECADES, THEY NOW FIND EXOTIC PARASITES, ANIMAL DNA AND MORE...TRULY HIDEOUS...ALL OF IT. i MONITOR GEO ENGINEERING WATCH AND HAVE SCREAMED ABOUT CHEMTRAILS FOR DECADES.
AND WE CAN SKIP TWO MEALS A DAY, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP BREATHING. THEY ARE CLOSING IN FAST.
Which part of the country? I'm about publish the latest pics...
Reante is good, but he is asking too many questions from too many perspectives, which even he probably doesn't realize. He has been making me think further, for which I am grateful.
Using several air/water filters here, but we can't escape, either.
Houston, TX...they are hitting us hard...they always do - they love punishing us. Floods, ice nucleation, dumping chemicals into our wells...invading hordes, you name it.
Ray, have you seen this MOTB video? https://fetvguide.com/video/sQDZa1HUCCRu/bitchute?src=slugs&ver=2.5.20 Lots you've probably seen but maybe some is new? (I prefer reading but it does help show what's happening!) Also, I've come to realize all religion and denominations are man made. However, I believe Romans 3:4 "...let God be true and every man a LIAR...".
NOT ONLY ARE THEY MAN-MADE - ALL GODS/RELIGIONS COULD BE THE MOST ELABORATE, DIABOLICALLY EFFECTIVE, INTRINSICALLY DIVISIVE AND LONGEST-RUNNING STAND-DOWN PSY-OP EVER PERTPETRATED ON HUMANITY.
THERE MAY BE A DIVINE (AND BENEVOLENT?) INTELLIGENCE AT WORK, BUT THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF DIABOLICAL OVERLORDS, ARCHONS, DARK FORCES AND DIMENSIONS BETWEEN THIS PREDATORY REALM AND THAT MUCH HIGHER ONE...
IF THERE IS A GOD, HE/SHE/IT (GOT TO GET THOSE PRONOUNS RIGHT) IS INDIFFERENT, AT BEST.
AND IF OUR MINDS DO CREATE REALITY, WTF ARE WE THINKING?
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PRAYING SO MUCH...I SEE IT AS FOCUSED INTENT, WHICH COULD BE HELPFUL, BUT THE BEGGING FOR MERCY AND FORGIVENESS STUFF DOESN'T WORK FOR ME...BUT ANYONE IS WELCOME TO PRAY FOR MY WRETCHED SOUL...
SOMETHING TELLS ME NOT TO HIT POST ON THIS...AH, WHAT THE HELL...I'M A SYNTHETIC TRANSHUMAN NOW...
True, it may not change anything. Regrettably, I lived in this lying system and believed it all until 2020. I am just horrified at how EVERY SINGLE THING is a LIE.
Jun 5, 2023·edited Jun 5, 2023Liked by Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)
I wish I could go back in time but can't. Now, if I turn on the TV, it's so disgusting. I can see the propaganda, brainwashing, etc in it ALL. I can't believe how blind I was to it all. Are you aware that people are lighting up on their foreheads and/or arms at airports using infrared (i think) or some other machine? That's how they knew if unjabbed people showed a 'fake' jab card . That was really the only thing I wanted you to see in the motb video and I apologize if you already knew... which you probably did. ;)
I am considering a Substack to address the elimination of the Hydrogel and all its components from the human body. EDTA chelation therapy is good, but not sufficient for everything. While Ray mentioned COVID, this part of the picture remains unresolved and critical to the entire planetary population with AI inserted in the mix. Dr. Ardis just found scorpion venom in glyphosate which riddles the food supply with poison.
LNP is toxic as it is. Still it is also needed for delivering the graphene-based nanocomputers that once they hitch on the body, operate on bioelectricity. My impression is that once they do that, the body recognizes them as part of itself, which can lead to a lot of nuisance, depending on the instructions the nano-receivers are getting. Yes, it's a suspension. As PM put it, "small conductive materials in colloid suspension clump together and can communicate with EMFs passing thru them."
As for your impressins about chemical bonds, I don't think anyone in this whole wide world has mastered them, so your idea would need to fit into a larger picture even before consideration.
Moreover, there is no "we," because the poisoning is versatile and cannot be diagnosed by symptoms. Consequently, of course, there are hardly any counter-measures.
To oversimplify, I read that graphene hydroxide in the jabs are like tiny razor blades that cut your insides up causing you to bleed out from the inside.
While I'm grateful for your challenges, that's where you and I differ. If you have ever read and understood my take on "autoimmune" diseases, you would at least be able to relate to the concept:
This is when I'm inclined to think you are more interested in contention than cooperation... I hope, I'm wrong, but considering how far you are filling up the comment section without ever responding to my request to establish common grounds for a fair discussion, what would you think in my stead?
I have actually been promoting the options that you are finding feasible... Yes, I have published 608 articles, so it it probably impossible to go through all of them at this point.
EMF weapons work even if there is nothing in the person. The anchored graphene only makes the person directly vulnerable, but the only evidence in this directions has been only from 5G cell-phone users.
Can we just talk before publishing? This is too much for me all at once, and I would need time to process the information.
in the article about religion I found the same scenario . Someone expressed (quite well, imo) a different opinion on religion than Ray did. What ensued was a back and forth which took up a whole page. I finally weighed in to echo the point you (reante) make . Interesting that the next day I saw that the whole page had been erased. Or maybe censored might be a better word.
Yes, Ray... it is your blog . I hope my comments also help you in moving forward .
Of course, it's not about you or me, which is why we might want to set up rules or if that' not possible, limit the number of topics in a single exchange. I'm sure we can do that.
As I said, your questions are motivating me to move forward, which is always painful, but I'm grateful for them. All I'm asking you is to give me fewer questions and more time. Well, if we could set up a platform, that would be fabulous, but I'm not overly optimistic about that. I know what I'm doing and have communicated it several times, but I'm still unsure where you are coming from and what you are expecting from the answers to your questions. If I understood that, I would be a lot more able to understand what I am accepting from a friend.
I'm learning new things. Some I knew not all. This one I didn't know as much about. We have one public hospital, that is treated as a doctor's office. All the rest are private. And the states of MS and AK use the Trauma unit as well as those in Tennessee does and have issues collecting Medicaid from them. Elvis Presley Trauma Center and the NIC U are top-rated, hospitals with a D grade.
EMF, ELF, EMP,, and ELLE...all that needs to be said and discussed to get people through this period of human history, so that we can get on with human evolution.
New old problem, ground hog is ravaging the garden. Great crop of sugar snap peas ripped from their fence, lovely young kale crop topped off and random green beans munched. Dog caught and killed a young one yesterday, there is a huge one still able to somehow sneak in, buried up rabbit wire, works for most of the area, gate is an issue, it’s the only place it can dig under and seems to be the weak link in the garden defense.
Put down chicken wire under your gate. They hate it when their nails get cut in it.
There is a product you could try, Victor M9012 Sonic Spike. We used this with a combination of 2 ft wide chicken wire around the house to prevent digging under the house.
I planted my raised garden. I put chicken wire under the whole bed. Ideally, 1 ft of fence extension coming out from under the frame. Also, I put 3 ft tall chicken wire fence around.
So far it's working, keeping out groundhog and rabbit.
Ray - Far as I can see, you left out the "virus vs no virus" debate which is key to everything medically we've been going thru for many decades now. See esp "The Viral Delusion" (5-part documentary) part 1 - https://archive.org/details/the-viral-delusion-part-1-the-tragic-pseudoscience-of-sars
And see Dr Mark Bailey's excellent book/report here on the history of the un-scientific virology ruse >
> A Farewell To Virology (Expert Edition) By Dr. Mark Bailey - 15/09/2022
https://drsambailey.com/a-farewell-to-virology-expert-edition/
Categories: Cov-19, Viral Existence, Viruses
(Bet you are knowledgeable about all of this but just can't find the specific no viruses topic in your list.)
It's certainly not a new topic at all but has been banned to hell w/the MSM flogged epitaph of ANTI-VAXXER, - meaning anti-sciency, anti-modern, superstitious & you ignorant moron - and this even in view of the fact that most who speak out against the insanity of vaxx are really EX-VAXXERS.
At least for many since the childhood vaxx schedule went off the rails in 1986 w/Ronnie Raygun's signing the 1986 Childhood Vaccination Act that enabled Big Farma to increase childhood vaxx exponentially - more toxic anti-immunity jabs for our lil kiddos, please! - & to vaxx murder w/absolutely NO liability.
No viruses, means no need for any often injurious & sometimes deadly vaxx (w/dangerous toxins) jabs.
My baby almost died after her 6-month "check-up" w/scripted childhood vaxx & deadly "flu shot". The murderous govt/Farma monsters were up to their necks w/bad karma even way before the C19 scam. :/
Sorry, I am weak, but let me show that I took care of the virus/no virus antagonism already on July 21, 2022:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/who-is-right-and-who-is-wrong
Ray, thank you for articulating my stance in a way I could not verbalize.
Ray - What did you think of the Part 1 episode of The Viral Delusion I linked?? Would love any critique or feedback you can provide. Here's a bitchute link too I also share frequently.
> The VIRAL DELUSION [EP: 01] 'The TRAGIC PSEUDOSCIENCE of SARS-COV-2' (Behind The Pandemic Curtain) Watch > https://www.bitchute.com/video/jajyAdPMdzfJ/
You are partially correct when you say "It's not a question of who is right or who is wrong" but it's really the essential question of the foundation of fallacies/lies underpinning the entire rotten Big Med/Farma "healthcare" system. Lies that are weaponized to endanger, injure & kill us for profits on a regular basis, & not just over the past 3 yrs of a C19 scam.
In March, 2020, I thought that refuting Germ/viral transmission theory would disable the killing machine. I was wrong. Switching from Germ to Terrain would definitely improve sick care, but
1. that's not where the money/power is
2. The globalists can still poison the population (they are doing it), and declare national emergencies accordingly, virus or no virus.
Hammering home the truth of a message is what is important. Not whether it is fully accepted right now or even noticed yet by the majority of folks. There will always be those who are gullible rubes to any & all "sales pitches" but there are also many who will finally see the light if it is constantly repeated & confirmed.
Repetition of all the so-called C19 lies got us into this most recent medical mess & repetition of the truth around "no-viruses" will help us to get out of it.
Believe this has been happening w/C19 over the past year since the PTB have definitely lied about the overall C19 "vaxx" up-take/stats. We know that many millions of "doses" & boosters had to be destroyed over the past year+ when folks just stopped taking jabs & most refused to "C19 vaxx" their kids. Boom.
Ray - I've been off substack for a week so just read your comment to me here tonight. Thanks for the link to your July 21, 2022 stack. (I had checked out all your articles & the title - "Who is right & who is wrong" didn't seem to be related to the "no viruses"/germ theory topic.)
However, I just responded to Christine Massey's comment over at your article once I read it & wanted to respond here about that article too. And I agree with Christine's comment.
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/who-is-right-and-who-is-wrong/comment/17755127
Here's my comment to Christine's comment re:"no viruses" that I just posted over there >
I absolutely agree with you here, Christine. There is no greater issue than the lies around germ theory & viruses right now. The entire "Rockefeller Medicine" medical paradigm hangs on the pseudo-scientific lies around disease causation & infectious illnesses, etc. Why doesn't Ray agree??
Several years ago I read Dr Suzanne Humphries' brilliant book, "Dissolving Illusions Disease, Vaccines, And The Forgotten History" (2013) Pdf - Suzanne Humphries MD - Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive - https://archive.org/details/SuzanneHumphriesMDDissolvingIllusionsDiseaseVaccinesAndTheForgottenHistory2013Pdf
This book further confirmed to me that the current allopathic medical system is totally BS & completely bankrupt.
[It's the old Hegelian Dialectic as applied by Big Ag, Big Chem, Big Med & Big Farma: create a problem, watch for reactions & then create THE solution you want to sell to folks. Sounds exactly like the past 3 years of the plandemic/scamdemic C19 hoax, doesn't it?]
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To repeat Christine's summary from [her comment]: "As long as people believe in them [the virus/germ theory/ vaccines lies etc], they [govt/farma] will waste time and resources developing useless fraudulent tests, analyzing trends, calculating meaningless statistics, trying to figure out just how bad "it" is and what to do about "it". Respectfully, I couldn't disagree more w/this article."
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/who-is-right-and-who-is-wrong/comment/12255192
Amen Christine.
Busting all the peudoscientific lies around those issues clears the deck for an analysis of all of the actual disease causing toxins in our world & helps create a much better health paradigm.
Remember the kindergarten COP? 1990 movie codes, Girls have a vagina, boys have a penis. Is Kindergarten Cop appropriate for 11-year-olds?
In line with the Motion Picture Association of America PG-13-rating, MCA Universal has told exhibitors that KINDERGARTEN COP is for 13-year-olds and up, but everything about the way the film is being marketed will attract little children.
Thanks Ray.
In my personal opinion, it's time to move from the causes to the solutions. That's where our focus should be right now.
We know the rain wets, time to get an umbrella.
Nothing will change as long as we keep telling "them" our inner thoughts on www. We're just feeding their AI.
Luckily, AI cannot do much with contradicting information, so overloading it with that sort of thing might work better than staying away. Also, not revealing my whole hand can work, too.
"not revealing my whole hand can work, too."
That's true but most of the people tend to talk too much.
Talking too much can be good against the AI (well, it's not so good, if one has to listen to nonsense), but it's also important not to reveal all the cards. If you are ever interrogated for a crime you didn't commit, your best chance is just to keep talking. :)
For me, it’s about how badly our government lies, steals and cheats us out of everything history, land, finances.
List is good and well covered by 90% of everyone else. No stone left unturned by the globalists as they seek to scare us literally to death. I didn't see gates on the list but am tired of hearing about that parasite anyway.
Consider him included. :)
Thx.
Haven't commented much lately but I appreciate your willingness to ask for feedback, suggestions, or open your page up for subscriber discussion/debate.
I glanced at the last one about religion... it was mostly people talking about Jesus, so for me, uninteresting & quite frankly, tiresome.... no offense to anyone reading this. But still appreciate that you're even willing to do that - and pleasantly surprised that a few of the opposing views were civil without lashing out.. Imagine that, in this day & age, turns out, some of us CAN act like adults 😉 (I believe in a creator. im just anti-religion. I grew up Catholic, and began questioning it very early in life... so much so, I got kicked out for opposing my father & refused to get up early for church anymore. Whoops.)
Anyway, hope you're doing well. Seems like you're in a similar mindset as me where like ... im just exhausted from all of it. Im at the point where anything "new" doesn't matter much to me anymore - to an extent. Im still naturally curious though... a blessing & a curse at times. But once you realize everything is fucked, governments are all fucked, no one is going to save us, and we live in a very disturbing, evil world, what matters more are solutions, exiting the system, find community, staying sane, and finding balance.
Ok um.... topics... have you done an article on electroculture yet? Im really interested in wanting to plant a garden when we buy a house (had to put it on hold for another year), no idea where to begin but i want to be prepared & have a plan! Electroculture is fascinating but I've only scratched the surface. This is the kind of thing where its easy to get overwhelmed with info, then I overthink it, and my ADHD kicks in and then I'm spinning around in circles for months 😭😂
Thank you for coming back. I've been missing you.
Strangely, I'm about publish a summary of my approach to religion/philosophy. You might find that your experience has been quite a bit like mine.
As a friend, I am offering you a chance to talk to me. Chances are it will be disappointing, because I'm a simple and unassuming person, but what the heck. You just send me a message replying to any of the notifications about a new post from my site and we can take it from there.
I am looking forward to hearing from you. Sorry, I'm slowing down. 606 posts in a year have been taken their toll on me, but talking is still okay. Other than that, I am slowing down for a week or two (well, not sure; my wonderful wife keeps coming up with new ideas :) ). My wife is the gardener/healer around here, so you are in the right place.
I totally understand. I dont know how people constantly come up with content, keep up with comments & find time to write a meaningful reply. But maybe its because I've turned from social butterfly to complete introvert/recluse after 2020. Its literally been exhausting in more ways than 1. Ive neglected all my socials, ive lost most of my friends, and I suppose I've become a bit of a shut-in. I went home (NY) for the first time in 12 years back in November and everyone was asking where ive been because I disappeared on social media 18 months ago, without a peep (mainly Facebook, for obvious reasons - got tired of FB jail, and the drama is so much worse there). Now I'm kinda kicking myself for becoming a shut-in, and no idea how to dig myself out. How the hell do you meet new people in real life at this age, especially when most of the world are NPC's? Lol 😆
And you never disappoint Ray. Always a curious & interesting conversation and I appreciate you being there for me and others and offering a pleasant, neutral space for us to connect. Ill reciprocate the offer, if you just wanna talk sometime. Although I don't really have a place for you to reach me since I abandoned socials. Instagram maybe? I like looking at pictures of neat stuff & animals so im on there & Substack the most these days 😂
Sarapear23 is my account. Dont judge my page. Lol. I thought I wanted to be an extreme nail artist for a bit. I stopped posting, but im still on it every day.
And your wife sounds lovely! You ever thought about having her guest post on your substack? Would love to see beginner gardening tips 😉 might be a nice escape for you to take a break for a bit too, jus sayin. But don't feel bad if you take a week or 2 off. Seriously. You've earned it!
How about The Master and his Emissary by Iain McGilchrist. The master is the right brain hemisphere, the emissary is the left brain hemisphere. In my opinion, the hopeful global controllers considering themselves Masters of the Planet, are left brain emissaries gone rogue and needing to be put in their place very firmly by a public that is informed so as to be able to stop inappropriately revering their presumed superior genius, a myth cultivated by these owners of ancillary talent themselves. Noah Harari whose brain honestly gives him the faulty feedback that yes it is great for him to try to "intelligently design" the world. Facepalm really. And they need to learn what an embarrassment they really are.
Right and left brain distribution is not consistent, but it gets worse.
Hemispheres can switch, just like a previously right-handed person can become left-handed after an accident. (I was a good ping-pong player at the age of 12, and it took me only a few hours to switch from one hand to the other, and a world champion in the 1950s became a champion with the other hand after an accident.)
Nothing is written in stone. The human being is fantastic in its adaptability.
These freaks, however, can temporarily close down certain data paths in the nervous system, which gives them the impression of invincibility. They WILL learn their places, when the time comes.
How about tartaria, flat earth maps, resets, mud floods and neuralink? :)
I have a lot to say about this.... i won't go too deep but I too got sucked into the Tartaria movement. As I went deeper, I started to see strange parallels with the current world. I dont think its this nice dystopia everyone makes it out to be. The "one-world Tartaria" phrase was the big red flag. Gee, where have I heard something like that before? "One World Government". I also noticed that it has suddenly sky-rocketed in popularity on YouTube, seemly out of nowhere, and the algorithm seems to be PUSHING these videos. We KNOW what the censorship & suppression of trutu is like on that platform, so, another red flag. New channels are popping up every day about Tartaria.
To me, it seems like a red herring. A deliberate distraction. Im not saying its all bullshit. But I think a lot of it is. And a lot of it CAN be explained. I started going down a very different rabbit hole, and sure enough, there are people talking about this and pointing out the inconsistencies, the cherry picking, and the blatant contradictions. They tried to pin-point WHEN and WHERE Tartaria first started popping up... THAT was a very interesting discussion.
I try to look at something all angles. What is the argument FOR it and AGAINST it. What does the mainstream say? What does my experience tell me? Its still an interesting topic but I dont like the hyper-focus on Tartaria, which is constantly conflated with all of the mystery history... and I cant help but feel that is being done intentionally.
Flat earth video: https://fetvguide.com/video/debcXgOi0T0/youtube?list=PL9JK-HA6DrRE4mbAoCuOHkJfZJirqV0I-&src=youtube-playlists-0%2Byoutube-watch&ver=2.9.11&handle=@Truthavision (note: *language*)
Fake space video: https://fetvguide.com/video/ss7QT6uCZdU/youtube?list=PL9JK-HA6DrRE4mbAoCuOHkJfZJirqV0I-&src=youtube-playlists-0%2Byoutube-watch&ver=2.9.11&handle=@Truthavision
My immediate target is hydrogels. They seem to be the stabilizing factor for the G nano capsules. for the delivery into our cells and the release of the payloads. Then of course, it's the frequency interface that can trigger the payloads. But, as far as I can tell, no one seems to know how to get hydrogel out of our bodies. There are some detoxes for graphene, although that can be a mind-field too, but the plastic/hydrogel seems to be a pressing issue, and, of course, another urgency that I see is how to stop the chemtrail spraying - every night and thicker and more poisonous -no more blue skies - and they also contain the nanos with their payloads - and the complete poisoning of the food supply.
Where do we even start? I've always been on poison patrol, so you can imagine that these times are seriously triggering for me...
Overwhelming...impossible...insurmountable...all of it...or maybe we just visualize a fukking pole shift?
Sorry...I'm in a mood...every day the ghoulz just suck the nice right out of me...
Thank you, Ray, you a a ray of hope in this extinction nightmare...and thank you for asking what is triggering us the most...very generous of you...
Dr Rashid Buttar died May 17, a week or so before he was to reveal an antidote to the hydrogels at the Advanced Medical conference. He believed he was poisoned during a CNN interview the year before...he had issues with myocarditis after and died of a stroke. Many colleagues believe he was murdered. Chemtrails like crazy here in SC also.
He was clearly murdered if you saw his last video. Very sad.
With all respect, as far as I can see, he died, because he pointed out the link between whatever is in people's body by now and 5G:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/how-about-dr-rashid-buttar
He was wrong in just about everything else...
You know I greatly value your opinion and research so could you expand on that? I may have mentioned somewhere on one of your posts that I have two jabs so of course the podcast you posted freaked me out, I actually saw it on Saturday and spent most of the day pretty solemn.
Everybody is in the same boots by now, irrespective of having or not having received an injection. Even going to the dentist can take care of that. Buttar was wrong in mostly everything, but he called attention to the role of 5G in controlling people. At this point, the injections are probably moot, because even food can be used instead. Mihalcea found next to no difference between "v*d" and "unv*d) blood, so everybody is screwed. As every batch was different and some of the vials contained only saline, it's impossible to break down the potential damages to a single person.
Thank you. I read quite a bit each day on the jabs and have seen Dr Ana’s many articles on the blood looking the same. My batches are rated as severe on howbadismybatch with 114 deaths but my d-dimer was normal but my CD8/CD4 ratio was a little off. I called my doctor about this and he said I had to consult with a hematologist because he didn’t know how to read it and he’s an internist, can you believe it?? I’m in a red state so I’m sure there’s something to that.
It is possible that beyond every batch being different that even within a batch, there was a variety of vials. Saline, for one, was found at the beginning, but I'm not sure how long it was included later.
Kentucky got the highest number of lethal batches. Some blue states were strangely spared quite a bit.
I vote for hydrogels also...they are in everything.
"My immediate target is hydrogels". Mine too at the moment. What other medications they are in and how to rid the body of them. Looking at the moment at slow-release psychiatric injectable medications.
PSYCHIATRIC? WOW...KEEP ME POSTED! ALTHOUGH I'M SPOOKED BY ALL INJECTIBLES AT THIS POINT. THANKS KERRYLYN...
Thank you for being part of the realistic opposition. It is your generosity that makes this site possible.
Hydrogels are a good one. At the same time, lots of people with a lot more expertise than what I possess have written about them and they were reasonably correct. The only aspect of I've been using has been that they are necessary for delivering self-assembling graphene structures, which is making mRNA redundant.
Graphene nanostructures, once they are anchored in the body and light up on bioelectricity, are probably a lot harder to target; I haven't been able to find a countermeasure. Reante is saying that the gut flora would get rid of them, and I'm sure it would, but what it they are already "recognized" by the body by becoming "parts of it"? What if they are anchored somewhere else than the guts?
My wife took a few more photos of chemtrails yesterday. They exhibit regular patterns, but the only thing that gives them away is the chemtrail lines. After a few minutes (not sure how long), the dissolve into stuff that look like miniature cumulus.
Hydrogels seem to be plastic that just accumulate in the body...they are in everything...including lidocaine, and many many medicines you wouldn't think twice about.
They seem to be in both the vaxxed and UNVAXXED.
they are already "recognized" by the body by becoming "parts of it"?
I THINK SO TOO...IN EVERY CELL BY NOW...EMBEDDED, READY TO BE TRIGGERED TO USHER IN A NEW SCAMDEMIC...ANY ORGAN IN THE BODY CAN BE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED - MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE ANY CONNECTION...GIVES THEM PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY...
I WILL LOOK FOR REANTE, NOT FAMILIAR.
AS FOR THE CHEMTRAILS, THEY ARE SPRAYING CONSTATNLY NOW AND ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY AT NIGHT - OBSCURING. TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN NOTICING....BUT I CAN SMELL THEM...AND THEY NOW CONTAIN THE GO AND PAYLOADS AND HOST OF OTHER POISONOUS THINGS...GEOENGINEERINWATCH HAS DONE SAMPLING ON THE CHEMS RECENTLY AND THEY ARE FAR BEYOND THE ORIGINAL POISONS NOW, WITH ALL THE DEADLY METALS THAT THEY'VE BEEN SPRAYING FOR DECADES, THEY NOW FIND EXOTIC PARASITES, ANIMAL DNA AND MORE...TRULY HIDEOUS...ALL OF IT. i MONITOR GEO ENGINEERING WATCH AND HAVE SCREAMED ABOUT CHEMTRAILS FOR DECADES.
AND WE CAN SKIP TWO MEALS A DAY, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP BREATHING. THEY ARE CLOSING IN FAST.
THX, RAY.
Which part of the country? I'm about publish the latest pics...
Reante is good, but he is asking too many questions from too many perspectives, which even he probably doesn't realize. He has been making me think further, for which I am grateful.
Using several air/water filters here, but we can't escape, either.
Houston, TX...they are hitting us hard...they always do - they love punishing us. Floods, ice nucleation, dumping chemicals into our wells...invading hordes, you name it.
there is no escape...
Oh, Dear... There are sooo many topics I've missed... :)
YES...AND THEY ARE CREATING THE HUGE CLOTS...AND YES, IN EVERYTHING...
Ray, have you seen this MOTB video? https://fetvguide.com/video/sQDZa1HUCCRu/bitchute?src=slugs&ver=2.5.20 Lots you've probably seen but maybe some is new? (I prefer reading but it does help show what's happening!) Also, I've come to realize all religion and denominations are man made. However, I believe Romans 3:4 "...let God be true and every man a LIAR...".
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NOT ONLY ARE THEY MAN-MADE - ALL GODS/RELIGIONS COULD BE THE MOST ELABORATE, DIABOLICALLY EFFECTIVE, INTRINSICALLY DIVISIVE AND LONGEST-RUNNING STAND-DOWN PSY-OP EVER PERTPETRATED ON HUMANITY.
THERE MAY BE A DIVINE (AND BENEVOLENT?) INTELLIGENCE AT WORK, BUT THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF DIABOLICAL OVERLORDS, ARCHONS, DARK FORCES AND DIMENSIONS BETWEEN THIS PREDATORY REALM AND THAT MUCH HIGHER ONE...
IF THERE IS A GOD, HE/SHE/IT (GOT TO GET THOSE PRONOUNS RIGHT) IS INDIFFERENT, AT BEST.
AND IF OUR MINDS DO CREATE REALITY, WTF ARE WE THINKING?
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PRAYING SO MUCH...I SEE IT AS FOCUSED INTENT, WHICH COULD BE HELPFUL, BUT THE BEGGING FOR MERCY AND FORGIVENESS STUFF DOESN'T WORK FOR ME...BUT ANYONE IS WELCOME TO PRAY FOR MY WRETCHED SOUL...
SOMETHING TELLS ME NOT TO HIT POST ON THIS...AH, WHAT THE HELL...I'M A SYNTHETIC TRANSHUMAN NOW...
In general, I don't watch videos, unless I absolutely have to, but my wife is helping me out on that department. :)
I usually ask people who say the Earth is flat/round, what difference would that make in the way they conduct themselves in their own lives.
True, it may not change anything. Regrettably, I lived in this lying system and believed it all until 2020. I am just horrified at how EVERY SINGLE THING is a LIE.
I've been used to it ever since I stopped watching TV at the age of 10 or 11. It was causing me physical pain. :)
I wish I could go back in time but can't. Now, if I turn on the TV, it's so disgusting. I can see the propaganda, brainwashing, etc in it ALL. I can't believe how blind I was to it all. Are you aware that people are lighting up on their foreheads and/or arms at airports using infrared (i think) or some other machine? That's how they knew if unjabbed people showed a 'fake' jab card . That was really the only thing I wanted you to see in the motb video and I apologize if you already knew... which you probably did. ;)
I am considering a Substack to address the elimination of the Hydrogel and all its components from the human body. EDTA chelation therapy is good, but not sufficient for everything. While Ray mentioned COVID, this part of the picture remains unresolved and critical to the entire planetary population with AI inserted in the mix. Dr. Ardis just found scorpion venom in glyphosate which riddles the food supply with poison.
LNP is toxic as it is. Still it is also needed for delivering the graphene-based nanocomputers that once they hitch on the body, operate on bioelectricity. My impression is that once they do that, the body recognizes them as part of itself, which can lead to a lot of nuisance, depending on the instructions the nano-receivers are getting. Yes, it's a suspension. As PM put it, "small conductive materials in colloid suspension clump together and can communicate with EMFs passing thru them."
As for your impressins about chemical bonds, I don't think anyone in this whole wide world has mastered them, so your idea would need to fit into a larger picture even before consideration.
Moreover, there is no "we," because the poisoning is versatile and cannot be diagnosed by symptoms. Consequently, of course, there are hardly any counter-measures.
To oversimplify, I read that graphene hydroxide in the jabs are like tiny razor blades that cut your insides up causing you to bleed out from the inside.
Glad to hear your better Ray.
While I'm grateful for your challenges, that's where you and I differ. If you have ever read and understood my take on "autoimmune" diseases, you would at least be able to relate to the concept:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-makes-people-sick-apart-from
This is when I'm inclined to think you are more interested in contention than cooperation... I hope, I'm wrong, but considering how far you are filling up the comment section without ever responding to my request to establish common grounds for a fair discussion, what would you think in my stead?
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/steve-kirsch-is-challenging-again
I have actually been promoting the options that you are finding feasible... Yes, I have published 608 articles, so it it probably impossible to go through all of them at this point.
EMF weapons work even if there is nothing in the person. The anchored graphene only makes the person directly vulnerable, but the only evidence in this directions has been only from 5G cell-phone users.
Can we just talk before publishing? This is too much for me all at once, and I would need time to process the information.
in the article about religion I found the same scenario . Someone expressed (quite well, imo) a different opinion on religion than Ray did. What ensued was a back and forth which took up a whole page. I finally weighed in to echo the point you (reante) make . Interesting that the next day I saw that the whole page had been erased. Or maybe censored might be a better word.
Yes, Ray... it is your blog . I hope my comments also help you in moving forward .
Of course, it's not about you or me, which is why we might want to set up rules or if that' not possible, limit the number of topics in a single exchange. I'm sure we can do that.
As I said, your questions are motivating me to move forward, which is always painful, but I'm grateful for them. All I'm asking you is to give me fewer questions and more time. Well, if we could set up a platform, that would be fabulous, but I'm not overly optimistic about that. I know what I'm doing and have communicated it several times, but I'm still unsure where you are coming from and what you are expecting from the answers to your questions. If I understood that, I would be a lot more able to understand what I am accepting from a friend.
WRT? WBC? New to me - please say what they stand for. Thanks for info too.
Don’t forget to add “...back again” after the line “Mass shootings”.
I'm sick of them. They seem to have been trial runs for remote-controlled humans...
Twice mentioned in the List....yet again and back again. It's the motto for NATO Operation Gladio.
Thank you, Lynn. Op. G. would be a most welcome topic. Please, remind me in a day or two, because one topic usually works for about 24 hours.
HOW CAN THEY DO THIS TO THE PEOPLE [Minnesota, Wisconsin]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udsGfAepllw
Gail, if this is a new initiative, please, specify.
I'm learning new things. Some I knew not all. This one I didn't know as much about. We have one public hospital, that is treated as a doctor's office. All the rest are private. And the states of MS and AK use the Trauma unit as well as those in Tennessee does and have issues collecting Medicaid from them. Elvis Presley Trauma Center and the NIC U are top-rated, hospitals with a D grade.
I hear you Ray. You left out EMF!
https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/emf101
I recommended your whole site, with particular emphasis on EMF.
I've written whatever I had to say on it, and your site is a welcome one on the subject.
EMF, ELF, EMP,, and ELLE...all that needs to be said and discussed to get people through this period of human history, so that we can get on with human evolution.
Ike's Farwell Address
https://www.eisenhowerlibrary.gov/research/online-documents/farewell-address
Or Charlie Chaplin's in The Great Dictator which he made out of character.
I apologize, but please, let me know what the point is... I am overwhelmed with work...
New old problem, ground hog is ravaging the garden. Great crop of sugar snap peas ripped from their fence, lovely young kale crop topped off and random green beans munched. Dog caught and killed a young one yesterday, there is a huge one still able to somehow sneak in, buried up rabbit wire, works for most of the area, gate is an issue, it’s the only place it can dig under and seems to be the weak link in the garden defense.
Groundhog repellent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qenISu0Q6Fw
Groundhog repellent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qenISu0Q6Fw
You could also build a seperate garden for the uninvited:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNdts2P-djg
Put down chicken wire under your gate. They hate it when their nails get cut in it.
There is a product you could try, Victor M9012 Sonic Spike. We used this with a combination of 2 ft wide chicken wire around the house to prevent digging under the house.
I planted my raised garden. I put chicken wire under the whole bed. Ideally, 1 ft of fence extension coming out from under the frame. Also, I put 3 ft tall chicken wire fence around.
So far it's working, keeping out groundhog and rabbit.
My problem is neighbourhood cats using my newly seeded raised beds as toilet!
Sprinkle cayenne pepper around the edge of the beds. It should deter the cats from using it. It also deters squirrels from digging and burying nuts.
Please, read this article:
https://horticulture.co.uk/cat-deterrent-plants/