"Frankly, I don’t even understand why the globalists insist on their utilitarian dystopia, when they are already in full control of just about everything that matters." You have a presumption the ultimate controllers are humans. I doubt that they are as does La Qunita Columna and David Icke and doubtless others. As to the exact nature of these controllers I suggest that as LaQuinta puts it-Demonic.
Berdyaev writes: The judgment upon Christianity is going on in all phases of human life and culture. It is a judgment on false monism and false dualism, upon extreme immanentism, upon the deification of human frailties and the degradation of human dignity. The world crisis is a judgment both from above and from beneath. The tragic conflict between Christianity and history is nothing new – it is eternal and in the process each judges the other. History’s judgment upon Christianity is its revelation of Christianity’s failures in history… But on the other hand this defeat of Christianity turns into a judgment upon history. The failure of Christianity is the failure of history as well. This is more clearly evident now, than ever before.
In one of his epigrammatic utterances, Berdyaev summarizes his argument: “The world tried to affirm man as against Christianity and arrived at the negation of man himself.” A paragraph or two later Berdyaev follows up one epigram with another: “The world is again in the grip of the polydemonism from which Christianity once rescued it.” The choice, Berdyaev argues, lies between continuing the descent into “technicized chaos in which only the most terrible forms of idolatry can live” and “a new Christian piety.”
I think the materialistic thesis is incorrect. No idol runs this show overall. In other words no Baal attended to and built by priests of technology is Demiurge. No doubt several machines of great power and importance feed data -maybe even https://noosphere.princeton.edu/
Having separated itself from God and spiritual values, modern humanity pridefully turns exclusively to the construction and organization of its material world to find meaning, happiness, and security. Technics is precisely the means by which modern humanity, apart from God, and by its own devices, seeks to achieve desired beneficial ends for itself. In modernity, several autonomous spheres of existence seek to dominate exclusively the whole of life, and technics is one of them. Once modern humanity discarded the Medieval worldview, with its religiously integral view of reality, it has sought integrality of being in one of several spheres of life. Technics is a part of these spheres. Specifically, technics must reckon with the spheres of statism and economics. Berdyaev perceives a pernicious development in modernity in which collective forces (the "masses") look to the state, economics, and technics to provide them with total happiness and wellbeing. Like Dostoevsky, from whom he gleamed many insights, Berdyaev thinks that humankind's appeal to technics, statism, and economics for total well-being only leads to human self-enslavement.
Satanism, Demonism, Occultist rituals, are enacted by the spiritually possessed.
Yes, the spiritual aspect cannot be ignored in my opinion, either. The Mystery of Evil is alive and well, but the human part doesn't need to be mystified.
Still, most people, including me, act according to their conditioning and human nature most of the time, which can be calculated. As the page in your link suggests, many people can represent similar states of consciousness, which can be due to preprogrammed reactions or even blatant manipulation (e.g. the "shock effect" can prevent people from reacting individually).
my hopono pono friend suggests adding ... "{ what can i do to make things better" to the existing 4 ie im sorry plse forgive me , i love you , thank you
The globalist turds only tell us their plans because they are so arrogant as to believe these plans will always work as planned and that we peons are to stupid to stop them. This is what we can use against them for these murdering bums are not living in reality but a separate twilight zone.
they must have some secret way of protecting themselves,,, like they also have super advanced medicine and technology,like broadband tech which is a declasified ww2 secret... etc etc we have to do battle with them on the spiritual level where we are stronger than we know ,,, they know that too thats why they want to destroy christianity... therefore ...
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. if the spiritual realm exists .... these highly intelligent astute elites are being decieved and lead to believe they are doing their gods " baal " work and will be rewarded in their next incarnation or go to paradise... this is what their priests tell bthem that its their duty to god to subjugate the half human beasts " and now due to the gene altered humans " vvaxxed" dont qualify as humans made in Good Gods image and likeness anymore they may do whatever they please with us vaxxed " no more human rights " just as we treat the animals , they may now treat us . they are lead to believe they can escape karma " as you sow so shall you reap " their evil mastermind intelligence "{ satan ] is orders of magnitude more evil intelligent than they " satan " the nature of is sado machocistic pshycopath who hates everything the good God created including himself and wishes the complete destruction of everything including life itself, non existance //.... we are instructed by the existance of goodness to pray for their salvation from evil ,,, praying and wishing them to return to goodness and truth, and everyone too... ps what good is owning the whole world " temporal" and loseing our eternal soul ??? its the worst dumbest idiotic imbisilic " deal " in all eternity and in the known and unknown universe
They have unleashed too many forms of attacks to be able to control each, so I assume that they are resorting to different modes of protection against each, out of which they removing themselves from the masses and living on their remote, self-sustaining islands comes first.
People with the gift to heal also exist. It remains a question if the evil can also profit from these people's services.
The highest priority is always a personal decision. For a believer, salvation for themselves and for those they're responsible for is the one.
Hey Ray, did you ever think that ''too many forms'' is part of the lie?
These ''people'' tell you things because ''they'' think that by doing so ''they'' have circumvented the Law Of Free Will. That is not the case. Intent.
''They'' know Law. I don't mean mans law.
Back to the plow is what will happen. Heal Mother Earth and Mother Earth will heal those in return.
I told you the way out of this but still you fret.
Look, max, if you have nothing to say, and obviously are not familiar with my articles, you might want to consider to drop it. :)
I don't care for trolling, and even if you are not one, you are doing a great job at it. Unless you start being specific, please, stop or I'll have to ban you. :)
I think most people, even very educated scientists, just don’t get how methodical these Eugenicist war & disease profiteers have been over the centuries to make sure all of these weapons for modifying, controlling and poisoning people are target-specific; have well controlled buffers or shelters built in or along side for those using and profiting off these WMD’s. Whether it’s war in which We the People get the business end of bullets & bombs and the war makers get the profits with underground bunkers, or synthetic pathogens in which they’ve created gene-targeting functions and nanotechnology antidotes for themselves. Why wouldn’t they?
Unless conjecturing about a multi-centenarian or even multi-millennial plot holds water, it's most likely that what' happening is due to human nature and the way all social layers always default to the same setup, starting with tribal communities and ending in any modern form of state. Strangely, one doesn't exclude the other.:
My impression is that history started over a million times, it would always end exactly like this.
Messing with genes and including their own genes would definitely end the human race. Genetic experiments cannot be conducted without this risk, even if they are done in isolation.
Epstein more and more seems like someone who has been thrown under the bus in order to divert public attention from the big-timers or the actual operator(s) of "Epstein island."
I don’t believe most of the problems humans have suffered over the past 50 thousand years, particularly the last 5k, has anything to do with “human nature.” I’m convinced humans are naturally good, naturally curious, naturally crave diversity, that there is no such thing as anyone being born or made evil—just ignorance coupled with varying degrees of good to poor mental health—and that starvation, scarcity and all major wars can be linked to one group of monstrous inbreeding money-power-junkies who’ve been manipulating trade, buying leaders & king making to steel the world and make all humans their slaves…until technology can replace them. But it’s a topic I must expand on only in my own Substack and books, which I’m working on.
But I do agree that messing with genes, particularly “their” plans to merge synthetic AI means death for all natural life, not just humanity.
Have your read my article on the uniform structure of all human societies? What you are describing about the abuse of power has always been the case, except when truly benevolent rulers temporarily changed the tune. Technology will turn the masters into slaves of their own system, too, but they are too confident and short-sighted to realize that, perhaps because they have nothing greater to live for. However, they want to impose their misery on everyone, and they are doing a good job at that.
Apart from that, humans are neither good nor bad at birth, but their primary socialization determines their "conscience." If they grow up among crooks, by the age of five or so, their idea of right and wrong are formed accordingly, and it's next to impossible to change that later on.
The idea of "original sin" claims that humans are born with the need to be without their Creator and give it a try, which is this life. It's up to anyone's judgment if that is smart or not exactly.
The basic logic might be that it takes two or more parts to make the quell go into effect.
You can have the nano part which is mostly dormant, but you also need the targeted EMF (phased array 5G perhaps) and specific catalyzing frequencies to trigger the various illnesses. Once a person becomes ill, they will then radiate their sick biofields to those around them. That would keep everyone in line.
The general poisoning obviously contains two main forms: EMF and nanoparticles. The two must be combined for full global control for the technocrats, but protection from each must be different, unless the programming to the nano-computers can also handle the nanoparticle poisoning (it should be able to do that) and the command to eventually terminate themselves can be issued (it would be insane not to include that option into the programming). EMF does weaken the biofield, and solar flares can lower the Earth's magnetic shield to the point that it can make humans more vulnerable to disease. The effects affect life in numerous ways:
Resonance is the most mysterious factor in Terrain Theory, but it has been allegedly substantiated as a theory. Resonating with other people's biofield sounds a a bit arcane to me, because there are so many other forms of resonance between humans... Still, it's definitely one of the options, although definitely not the only one.
I have had personal experience with being on vacation mixed with people that have been juiced, that began to have flu symptoms, then one after another the other people that were in contact began to show flu like symptoms. The vacation city had 5G towers in place and they were using their devices all the time. Coincidence perhaps, the presence of a sick persons chaotic and elevated biofield could be the trigger.
Could be. I'm still in the dark how I got "infected" by "shedding" from a newly injected person, who only talked into my face for about 30 seconds from about 10-15 inches in a store (I asked her how come people were not muzzled, and she told me the governor said those who had received their injections would not have to wear one; she was not wearing and I have never worn one). It could have coincided with a nearby 5G tower being turned on; it was in the summer of '21. In a few minutes, I went to the car and for five minutes, I was so sick that I thought I was dying. After that, I drove home without a problem, but have been weak ever since.
“If technique is total, if it is all-encompassing (that is, if the system of technique integrates into itself every phenomenon that arises), if it is “assimilative” (in the sense that all revolutionary movements are ultimately assimilated), then what can escape the system of technique? From a human outlook, we see nothing that does. We therefore need a transcendence in order to escape it. Only something that belongs to neither our history nor our world can do this. I mean, of course, something that does not “essentially” belong to them, because even the most distant planets are increasingly becoming part of our system.
We need a transcendence. When I say this, I am not being apologetic, I am not seeking to defend Christianity; that doesn’t matter to me in the least. Nor does this need prove the existence of God. I simply mean to say that only one of two things is possible.
One possibility is that technique becomes our destiny, a kind of growing fate that grows and takes over all human realities. No culture will escape, as we have seen in the Third World. And, parenthetically, when I said that technique could trigger crises, I meant that[…]”
No escape from the dead hand of the past that inscribed living minds with carefully chiseled lies. No new thinking unless the subject chisels themself from the rock even if they admire the work of paid hands not their own who shaped them...
"Frankly, I don’t even understand why the globalists insist on their utilitarian dystopia, when they are already in full control of just about everything that matters." You have a presumption the ultimate controllers are humans. I doubt that they are as does La Qunita Columna and David Icke and doubtless others. As to the exact nature of these controllers I suggest that as LaQuinta puts it-Demonic.
Berdyaev writes: The judgment upon Christianity is going on in all phases of human life and culture. It is a judgment on false monism and false dualism, upon extreme immanentism, upon the deification of human frailties and the degradation of human dignity. The world crisis is a judgment both from above and from beneath. The tragic conflict between Christianity and history is nothing new – it is eternal and in the process each judges the other. History’s judgment upon Christianity is its revelation of Christianity’s failures in history… But on the other hand this defeat of Christianity turns into a judgment upon history. The failure of Christianity is the failure of history as well. This is more clearly evident now, than ever before.
In one of his epigrammatic utterances, Berdyaev summarizes his argument: “The world tried to affirm man as against Christianity and arrived at the negation of man himself.” A paragraph or two later Berdyaev follows up one epigram with another: “The world is again in the grip of the polydemonism from which Christianity once rescued it.” The choice, Berdyaev argues, lies between continuing the descent into “technicized chaos in which only the most terrible forms of idolatry can live” and “a new Christian piety.”
Nope, I have said it several times that the controller is the central AI running the global simulation on live data:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/ai-makes-the-world-go-round
I also emphasized that its operators have no idea what it's doing.
I think the materialistic thesis is incorrect. No idol runs this show overall. In other words no Baal attended to and built by priests of technology is Demiurge. No doubt several machines of great power and importance feed data -maybe even https://noosphere.princeton.edu/
Having separated itself from God and spiritual values, modern humanity pridefully turns exclusively to the construction and organization of its material world to find meaning, happiness, and security. Technics is precisely the means by which modern humanity, apart from God, and by its own devices, seeks to achieve desired beneficial ends for itself. In modernity, several autonomous spheres of existence seek to dominate exclusively the whole of life, and technics is one of them. Once modern humanity discarded the Medieval worldview, with its religiously integral view of reality, it has sought integrality of being in one of several spheres of life. Technics is a part of these spheres. Specifically, technics must reckon with the spheres of statism and economics. Berdyaev perceives a pernicious development in modernity in which collective forces (the "masses") look to the state, economics, and technics to provide them with total happiness and wellbeing. Like Dostoevsky, from whom he gleamed many insights, Berdyaev thinks that humankind's appeal to technics, statism, and economics for total well-being only leads to human self-enslavement.
Satanism, Demonism, Occultist rituals, are enacted by the spiritually possessed.
Yes, the spiritual aspect cannot be ignored in my opinion, either. The Mystery of Evil is alive and well, but the human part doesn't need to be mystified.
Still, most people, including me, act according to their conditioning and human nature most of the time, which can be calculated. As the page in your link suggests, many people can represent similar states of consciousness, which can be due to preprogrammed reactions or even blatant manipulation (e.g. the "shock effect" can prevent people from reacting individually).
my hopono pono friend suggests adding ... "{ what can i do to make things better" to the existing 4 ie im sorry plse forgive me , i love you , thank you
The globalist turds only tell us their plans because they are so arrogant as to believe these plans will always work as planned and that we peons are to stupid to stop them. This is what we can use against them for these murdering bums are not living in reality but a separate twilight zone.
They surely seem to enjoy teasing their victims and I can't see a "we" who could do anything about it.
We stopped the monthly jabs.
https://discover.hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/How-Dr-Hew-Len-healed-a-ward-of-mentally-ill-criminals-with-Hooponopono.... glo baal ists worship baal and are mentally ill and maybe spiritually too...they need our intercessory prayers for their redemption .... good God please help according to your loving will
they must have some secret way of protecting themselves,,, like they also have super advanced medicine and technology,like broadband tech which is a declasified ww2 secret... etc etc we have to do battle with them on the spiritual level where we are stronger than we know ,,, they know that too thats why they want to destroy christianity... therefore ...
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. if the spiritual realm exists .... these highly intelligent astute elites are being decieved and lead to believe they are doing their gods " baal " work and will be rewarded in their next incarnation or go to paradise... this is what their priests tell bthem that its their duty to god to subjugate the half human beasts " and now due to the gene altered humans " vvaxxed" dont qualify as humans made in Good Gods image and likeness anymore they may do whatever they please with us vaxxed " no more human rights " just as we treat the animals , they may now treat us . they are lead to believe they can escape karma " as you sow so shall you reap " their evil mastermind intelligence "{ satan ] is orders of magnitude more evil intelligent than they " satan " the nature of is sado machocistic pshycopath who hates everything the good God created including himself and wishes the complete destruction of everything including life itself, non existance //.... we are instructed by the existance of goodness to pray for their salvation from evil ,,, praying and wishing them to return to goodness and truth, and everyone too... ps what good is owning the whole world " temporal" and loseing our eternal soul ??? its the worst dumbest idiotic imbisilic " deal " in all eternity and in the known and unknown universe
They have unleashed too many forms of attacks to be able to control each, so I assume that they are resorting to different modes of protection against each, out of which they removing themselves from the masses and living on their remote, self-sustaining islands comes first.
People with the gift to heal also exist. It remains a question if the evil can also profit from these people's services.
The highest priority is always a personal decision. For a believer, salvation for themselves and for those they're responsible for is the one.
Hey Ray, did you ever think that ''too many forms'' is part of the lie?
These ''people'' tell you things because ''they'' think that by doing so ''they'' have circumvented the Law Of Free Will. That is not the case. Intent.
''They'' know Law. I don't mean mans law.
Back to the plow is what will happen. Heal Mother Earth and Mother Earth will heal those in return.
I told you the way out of this but still you fret.
Oh, I have had many thoughts, but I share only those that I can more-or-less clearly communicate. :)
Multiple paths to the same end is the globalists' signature:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-end-game-has-begun-the-mass-murders
For my part, I am not particularly optimistic, because the paths have been assigned:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/this-is-how-it-will-go-down
And PLEASE, DO NOT "PSYCHOANALIZE" ME. I don't take it well. It's the sign of a troll...
''For my part, I am not particularly optimistic''
OK, I'll let you do that.
Links: More doom?
I see that you haven't questioned the how.
Hey Ray, how many bad things/acts happen in a day around the world? And how many goods things/acts happen in a day? Which do we hear about?
Look, max, if you have nothing to say, and obviously are not familiar with my articles, you might want to consider to drop it. :)
I don't care for trolling, and even if you are not one, you are doing a great job at it. Unless you start being specific, please, stop or I'll have to ban you. :)
I'm saying to you.
How can ''they'' be stopped? The answer should be of paramount importance, I think?
Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough Ray? Apologies for that Ray.
Cyrus of Persia? LOL.
I think most people, even very educated scientists, just don’t get how methodical these Eugenicist war & disease profiteers have been over the centuries to make sure all of these weapons for modifying, controlling and poisoning people are target-specific; have well controlled buffers or shelters built in or along side for those using and profiting off these WMD’s. Whether it’s war in which We the People get the business end of bullets & bombs and the war makers get the profits with underground bunkers, or synthetic pathogens in which they’ve created gene-targeting functions and nanotechnology antidotes for themselves. Why wouldn’t they?
Unless conjecturing about a multi-centenarian or even multi-millennial plot holds water, it's most likely that what' happening is due to human nature and the way all social layers always default to the same setup, starting with tribal communities and ending in any modern form of state. Strangely, one doesn't exclude the other.:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/apocalypse-now
My impression is that history started over a million times, it would always end exactly like this.
Messing with genes and including their own genes would definitely end the human race. Genetic experiments cannot be conducted without this risk, even if they are done in isolation.
definitely. OTOH: some say Epstein might have invited ('entertained') Nobel Prize-winning scientists, aristocrats and supermodels in a serious effort to offer 'sperm and egg fertility options' in the search for longevity and anti-cancer therapies, based on his investments in CRISPR-advanced DNA genetics - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/01/jeffrey-epstein-seed-human-race-report (HT George Webb - https://georgewebb.substack.com/p/neighborhood-news-returns-with-stories ).
Epstein more and more seems like someone who has been thrown under the bus in order to divert public attention from the big-timers or the actual operator(s) of "Epstein island."
I don’t believe most of the problems humans have suffered over the past 50 thousand years, particularly the last 5k, has anything to do with “human nature.” I’m convinced humans are naturally good, naturally curious, naturally crave diversity, that there is no such thing as anyone being born or made evil—just ignorance coupled with varying degrees of good to poor mental health—and that starvation, scarcity and all major wars can be linked to one group of monstrous inbreeding money-power-junkies who’ve been manipulating trade, buying leaders & king making to steel the world and make all humans their slaves…until technology can replace them. But it’s a topic I must expand on only in my own Substack and books, which I’m working on.
But I do agree that messing with genes, particularly “their” plans to merge synthetic AI means death for all natural life, not just humanity.
Have your read my article on the uniform structure of all human societies? What you are describing about the abuse of power has always been the case, except when truly benevolent rulers temporarily changed the tune. Technology will turn the masters into slaves of their own system, too, but they are too confident and short-sighted to realize that, perhaps because they have nothing greater to live for. However, they want to impose their misery on everyone, and they are doing a good job at that.
Apart from that, humans are neither good nor bad at birth, but their primary socialization determines their "conscience." If they grow up among crooks, by the age of five or so, their idea of right and wrong are formed accordingly, and it's next to impossible to change that later on.
The idea of "original sin" claims that humans are born with the need to be without their Creator and give it a try, which is this life. It's up to anyone's judgment if that is smart or not exactly.
I as a fruitcake was asked a slightly different question, when my woman was finally coming, oops!
https://liborsoural.substack.com/p/i-am-your-fruitcake
Thanks for sharing your responsible freedom.
Here is the most important question?
“All the problems of the man who fears for his humanity come down to the same question: how to remain free?” Stefan Zweig
beautiful quote. much depends on one's working definition of 'free' (which is not absolute).
The combination of these two, for me, gives the fullest, both negative and positive, "working" definitions of freedom/liberty.
“Liberty is the prevention of control by others.” John Acton
“Freedom is the will to be responsible for ourselves.” Friedrich Nietzsche
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Although I haven't been familiar with your quote, it sounds like my conclusion about Free Will. :)
The basic logic might be that it takes two or more parts to make the quell go into effect.
You can have the nano part which is mostly dormant, but you also need the targeted EMF (phased array 5G perhaps) and specific catalyzing frequencies to trigger the various illnesses. Once a person becomes ill, they will then radiate their sick biofields to those around them. That would keep everyone in line.
The general poisoning obviously contains two main forms: EMF and nanoparticles. The two must be combined for full global control for the technocrats, but protection from each must be different, unless the programming to the nano-computers can also handle the nanoparticle poisoning (it should be able to do that) and the command to eventually terminate themselves can be issued (it would be insane not to include that option into the programming). EMF does weaken the biofield, and solar flares can lower the Earth's magnetic shield to the point that it can make humans more vulnerable to disease. The effects affect life in numerous ways:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/archive?sort=search&search=earth%27s%20magnetic%20shield
Resonance is the most mysterious factor in Terrain Theory, but it has been allegedly substantiated as a theory. Resonating with other people's biofield sounds a a bit arcane to me, because there are so many other forms of resonance between humans... Still, it's definitely one of the options, although definitely not the only one.
I have had personal experience with being on vacation mixed with people that have been juiced, that began to have flu symptoms, then one after another the other people that were in contact began to show flu like symptoms. The vacation city had 5G towers in place and they were using their devices all the time. Coincidence perhaps, the presence of a sick persons chaotic and elevated biofield could be the trigger.
Could be. I'm still in the dark how I got "infected" by "shedding" from a newly injected person, who only talked into my face for about 30 seconds from about 10-15 inches in a store (I asked her how come people were not muzzled, and she told me the governor said those who had received their injections would not have to wear one; she was not wearing and I have never worn one). It could have coincided with a nearby 5G tower being turned on; it was in the summer of '21. In a few minutes, I went to the car and for five minutes, I was so sick that I thought I was dying. After that, I drove home without a problem, but have been weak ever since.
eery experience.
On second thought, I included it into today's article:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/how-is-the-human-ai-interface-deployed
“If technique is total, if it is all-encompassing (that is, if the system of technique integrates into itself every phenomenon that arises), if it is “assimilative” (in the sense that all revolutionary movements are ultimately assimilated), then what can escape the system of technique? From a human outlook, we see nothing that does. We therefore need a transcendence in order to escape it. Only something that belongs to neither our history nor our world can do this. I mean, of course, something that does not “essentially” belong to them, because even the most distant planets are increasingly becoming part of our system.
We need a transcendence. When I say this, I am not being apologetic, I am not seeking to defend Christianity; that doesn’t matter to me in the least. Nor does this need prove the existence of God. I simply mean to say that only one of two things is possible.
One possibility is that technique becomes our destiny, a kind of growing fate that grows and takes over all human realities. No culture will escape, as we have seen in the Third World. And, parenthetically, when I said that technique could trigger crises, I meant that[…]”
Excerpt From
Perspectives on Our Age
Jacques Ellul
No, no culture will escape. People themselves are making attempts at escaping from their own culture, which strangely includes the technocrats...
And even stranger using their culture as a template for escape. How swiftly we forgot-"wherever you go there you are." And no escaping destiny.,
My version was "You are not where you are from; you are where you are going." :)
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/vangelis-is-not-dead
No escape from the dead hand of the past that inscribed living minds with carefully chiseled lies. No new thinking unless the subject chisels themself from the rock even if they admire the work of paid hands not their own who shaped them...
Maybe it's "You are not where you are from; you are where your kids are going."