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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

As you know, I keep away from discussing religion except from historical and anthropological points of view, because I couldn't cover the scope, and I am nobody to advise anyone on religion.

However, religious comments are welcome, whenever they are relevant to my article. I don't use the "Like" button for those, because I do not take sides. In my understanding, the decision is personal for everyone.

Please, abstain from long religious treatises and do as I do, when my thoughts happen to be relevant to someone else's article: after a brief introduction of my thoughts, I direct other commenters to my relevant article. If you would like to further argue with your fellow reader, please, set up a chat between you two, and do not flood my comment sections with materials that can ultimately make other commenters lose interest.

In this comment section, such comments seem to fit, because one's considerations on the subject relies on existential (life-and-death) decisions.

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The Researcher's avatar

Ray, you’ve completely ignored all the forces, the structural, monarchal and religious artificial hierarchies as well as history of the HRE.

There’s nothing in your post about the unlawful legal system, canon law, the Vatican etc.

How does a banking cartel that operates internationally and is privately owned and centrally controlled, possibly get that amount of power without being an arms length corporation of ‘the State’?

And moreover, how does ‘the State’, lawfully control a single soul, when it’s a corporation, at the federal, state and local level (worldwide) not any kind of a public institution and therefore has no authority over men and women?

Looking forward to your answers.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

My answers are in my articles.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Raising Central Banks, which by the 1940s had been going on for several decades, has not been given its share of the blame for WW2 as yet. I figure that it was the main reason.

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The Researcher's avatar

It’s actually the other way around. WWII was orchestrated to instigate Breton Woods. Create the UN. Facilitate the forced relocation of millions and move capital $$ from Europe to the US in the formation of the petro dollar.

Everything is orchestrated and planned decades ahead.

Since the 70’s the capital $$ and manufacturing moved to China (after Nixon’s visit) and out of the US in the buildup to an orchestrated and ‘staged’ WWIII.

The scamdemic and lockdown served as useful data tools in a worldwide coordinated exercise to see how people would behave if their freedom of movement was completely removed and they were coerced into taking a poison injection, by the centrally owned and controlled corporations masquerading as nation states.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Might be the case, not ruling it out. But the data I have points to central banks being in bed with Hitler.

As for the remainder, perfectly plausible. Along the lines of the earlier experiment, and much smaller one, done at Jonestown. They were given concoctions that they were told were poison so built up trust that they would always be harmless.

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Richard Seager's avatar

I'm reminded of Lennon's lyric "nothing is real".

Was Lennon an actor as well?

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The Researcher's avatar

Heh. Funny you should say that…

https://jamesperloff.net/hey-hey-were-the-beatles/

The Beatles were a Tavistock creation. Basically, everything’s (cultural, entertainment, news, art, music, literature, academia, science, medicine) an intelligence/military project. That puts all the famous foisted upon us - historically - in a new light. Not a very flattering one. https://pieceofmindful.com/tag/john-lennon/

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Sorry about bursting in. So, were these handlers looking for twins? Is that how the Gibbs brothers were selected, too? Their musicality was certainly not showing the same authorship...

Also, there have been people groomed to become "celebrities":

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/where-are-the-girls-vol-2-how-to

Is it possible that some or most of those from Scientology in Hollywood were part of the groomed people?

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Richard Seager's avatar

Oh well I probably think that the Beatles had help to write songs or otherwise they were put onto a way of hiding tunes that they had stolen but imagining them as masonic Tavistock creations is still a step too far for me.

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David Currie's avatar

The "Synagogue of Satan" (SOS) is responsible, as Yeshua told us, and it's mostly not Jewish. They are planning to recreate Khazaria in Ukraine.

https://christiansfortruth.com/how-chabad-jews-orchestrated-ukraine-war-to-establish-their-third-khazaria-kingdom/

The Zionist state and Jews are the scapegoat patsies. They WANT us to blame "the Jews". The SOS explicitly states in the "Protocols of Zion" that they intentionally create "anti-Semitism", an important part of "The Art of War" (written by Jesuits). They need to have a false enemy, so people have somebody else to blame other than the SOS.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

The Khazarian story sounds logical, but I have my reservations:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-is-a-khazarian

If they are not Jewish, the Jews would be the first to protest...

Also, please, notice the footnote I added:

"It’s a significant aspect of discussing who is Jewish that it often remains absolutely unclear if a source that claims to be Jewish is actually Jewish. The Jewish card is often played by people who are not Jewish, either to take advantage of the status or to incriminate “the Jews.” That’s an excellent example of a red herring that occupies people’s attention and convinces them that they “solved” the problem."

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Richard Seager's avatar

Wherever the Greeks were there were later Jews. That's because the Jewish religion was invented by the Greeks. According to lore there were plenty of Greeks around where Khazaria later was. But the interesting thing I think is that Anatolia (and one has to assume those places nearby) is relatively free of Greek in their archeology.

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FreedomFighter's avatar

Subscribe to the universal scapegoat theory? Blame the Jews when you aren't smart enough to figure out the truth.

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Stefatanus's avatar

Nice synopsis Ray 👍🏻

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Thank you kindly. This one stemmed from my last four years' of thinking about the problem...

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Igz Navi's avatar

Those who are ruling this world are here for 25 thousand of years .So they are running a well oiled machine . The question is who will rule the world after them .

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Sorry, I beg to disagree... All human civilizations default to the same 5 layers:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-do-the-fake-cures-accomplish

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Redeemed Dissident's avatar

Most either dismiss the spiritual dimension (which for some of us is the foundation and basis for all else) or the fact that there are opposing spiritual forces at work -- one to rebirth and renew us into the purposes for which we were created or the other to imprison and exploit us for the purposes of those working against us (individually or collectively). We reach a point where the pleasant lies upon which we've staked our lives are more powerful and comforting than the possibility of a truth that is greater and an explanation that can forever not only satisfy and explain us and our role, but give the living out of our lives the seemingly illusive value meaning and intention we have sought for the entirety of our lived lives. There is hope, because the answer lies not with(in) us, but with the One who created us, who has also provided the way and the explanation and the purpose and the future that will solve every riddle and mystery that plagues us in the night when we're alone with our thoughts, dreams and fears...our earnest expectations and longings....our wonderment about the things that do not set well with us but for which no one else has offered a valid and resonant answer (we accept the "lesser of two evils" as a way of life instead). The truth sets us free -- the lies entangle and defeat us. The whole of humanity has the ability to find new life and all that comes with it -- including its ongoing extension beyond our ability to conceive, to begin the journey towards an assured, already provided utopia that we will spend the rest of eternity exploring and learning about and celebrating. It is not an exclusive club with membership requirements save one -- apprehension of it by faith, trust, belief and change of mind and heart -- acknowledgement of our unsuitability and inability to meet standards that are universal and unchanging, but which have been met on our behalf already and made available to us --- the change is instantaneous, and the ensuing growth and epiphanies never ending. Time is short - those in opposition to the God of the universe, who suppose in their ignorance and love of evil have devised in their purposes, plans and intentions to create an corrupt, perverted, inverse replica in a fallen world of what is known of the perfect one...and they intend to poison, mislead, and to trap us in their prison and to take from us the agency and ability to be who we were made to me -- and they are determined and advanced in the accomplishment of their centuries long agenda, inspired by one powerful but subordinate created being who will one day be dealt his own death blow and this world will be dissolved and all that there presently is -- we who belong to our God, through the completed work of Jesus Christ, already have our place in the new heavens and earth and we are walking through this life not as servants and instruments of the lies and deceptions and evil forces conspiring to undo others, but to bring comfort and assurance and hope where it is in short supply -- courage in the face of fear, peace in the face of chaos (the evil one believes in and has ascribed to his manifesto. "order from chaos") and answers to every questions of our minds and hearts and the wherewithal to carefully, deliberately walk trough the minefield undaunted and unscathed by the "slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune" that characterize more and more of the days of our lives.

ULTIMATELY, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CHOOSING WHICH PATH WE WILL TAKE. WE do not have to be "collateral damage" in the spiritual war that has been waged (the victor already declared, just the final summing up of all things left to be done, but that is not ours to know or question, simply to in faith accept). Those who have conspired together over the ages to render us mute, oppressed, exploited and enslaved do not have the last say -- I believe the "top of the pyramid" is the spiritual dimension and it controls the others. Solve the mystery of the spiritual forces in high places that are waging war and wreaking havoc on us, understand and identify them, refuse to be complicit or cooperative with them, and seek that which is righteous, true and beyond reproach instead -- in the power and ability of Him who gave Himself for us and enables us to do just that. They may even someday kill the body, but they cannot have the spirit that is already (for we who have believed) irrevocably consigned to Him who holds all things in His hands and Who has made us partakers of His eternal kingdom.

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Redeemed Dissident's avatar

What is our purpose for being here? From whence came we? With what guidance do we navigate the unknown, the challenges, the plethora of opinions, theories and postulations of humankind, the sacred texts, the "revelations" of select individuals -- the pressures of conformity and of acceptance, of herd mentality and of oppositional power in contrarianism, ad nauseam? Where will this present course (as we imagine and perceive it to be) taking us? To what ends are our lives to be lived and what will become of us after our autonomic functions cease and we're either destroyed by fire in 7 minutes or buried for 7 years+? What can we be doing to have an impact now and leave some kind of legacy for those who follow us? At what point is this all going to end and what will ensue thereafter?

We're becoming accomplished, or so it appears, at analyzing and ferreting out genuine from revisionist history, we can observe ideologies expressed and acted upon, the outcomes of attempts made to organize and conduct / direct the affairs of living in communities (whether cooperatively or via the force of others), the scientific rationale that explains the mechanisms of our universe - what is tangible, visible, testable, though we're left with a myriad of explanations for the unseen realm that somehow impacts us even more profoundly. We've made important connections about the not just the apparent, external world but about the implications that has for us physically & psychologically, even existentially -- food can generate energy, refresh and enable us or it can weaken and defeat us, for instance -- it is more than just taste, texture and smell, etc. or the rituals of gathering, preparing and sharing it with others, the perpetuation of its sources and the defense of it in order to survive and to enable others to do the same. We are learning about stewardship and improving how we treat the resources and the environment in which we live -- things that many animals instinctively do better than we. There are frequecies (for example, Schumann's Resonance) that connect us electrically (in addition to our chemical composition) with the earth from which we were created (not evolved by random chance and billions of years of "evolution" which is neither apparent or observable today -- in fact, we are "devolving" rapidly, in line with the principles of entropy and thermodynamics, etc. WE BELIEVE many things, we find security and safety in concurrence with others we trust, we make decisions based on Maslow's hierarchy or other criteria that we deem imperative to us and our desire for continued existence and even to further flourish and enjoy more -- though we're not altogether certain that the "more" we seek will satisfy and complete us either -- though we desire it and cannot always explain the why or how behind it. WE aspire to great things, but are often defeated by our baser instincts, our too easy disregard for one another and those around us -- we seek approval, affirmation, recognition and we compete to be "the best" at whatever it is that we deem important enough to compare ourselves to metrically/quantitatively. We believe we are sovereign, independent agents who are making choices, though we are bombarded constantly with manipulative and controlling narratives, lies, accepted "truths" or beliefs that are reinforced across multiple valued communications-based means of information gathering to which we attach and have esteemed much trust/value, though most are fear-based and intended to drive us to security and safety and to seek that from the "herd" where we receive our identity and sense of value and belonging - even when it is detrimental to us personally and to our attaining of those objectives we have sought to accomplish with the living out of our lives in whatever paradigm we have found ourselves, or worked to put ourselves into.

We are, as a species, being led to greater levels of self-destructive behavior that has been imposed on us with the intent to make us accept less and less "freedom" and the exercise and discovery of what that can bring to us, in exchange for an illusion of conformity and safety and community -- for convenience, for the more "efficient" use of what seems to be ever diminishing as a non-negotiable resource that eludes us -- time. The time that we "spend" and how we "spend" it has become a tyrant reminding us that we are not only allotted a limited "amount" but that we aren't very accomplished at using it wisely to both identify who we are and what we want (and the mechanisms best employed to both verify that it is worthy of our expenditure of time to "have" it or of our prizing it highly enough to leave off other similar aspirations competing for our affections and attention). We often trust others over ourselves. We accept the hierarchical nature of the world in which we live as natural and a rare few challenge it or bother to ponder ways in which it could be improved upon -- except when it is so prohibitive that it forces us to do so. We seek pleasure, the satisfaction of our basest desires, often cultivated around the esoteric or the barbaric extremes. We find great comfort in the things created to enslave and disempower us but we feel helpless to change them even when they're pointed out to us (we instead blame our accusers even if friends). Our hostility towards those with whom we disagree means we are missing out on the benefit of their perspectives, thoughts, experiences and rationale. We're frightened to challenge ourselves to entertain thoughts that might change how we perceive and invest ourselves, even if they promise us improvement -- unless the situation is forced on us and we have no realistic choice (though some will be left behind clinging to the false narrative that is taking them down).

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Igz Navi's avatar

When someone needs eight line to finish his sentence than it's loosing the power as 120 volt on a mile long wire .

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Redeemed Dissident's avatar

(:0) Offering to be my editor? Thanks for taking the time -- even a critique is worthy of receiving.

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David Currie's avatar

Yeshua (Jesus Christ to most) told us who is running the world: "the synagogue of satan" (SOS). As a believer in the Holy Bible, where we are told the earth is a stationary plane under the luminaries going around in the firmament dome, I believe in a stationary earth (scientific reasons too). I'm wondering what your opinion on our world's shape is..? This is fast becoming one of my favorite sources, along with "joedubs.com". We appreciate you!

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Crixcyon's avatar

Whoever is running the world is doing an exceptionally poor job. Even a batch of A/i retardos could do better. Oh wait, they are running most of the world now. Dah.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

I am looking forward to their failure, which is inevitable, but may not happen soon enough:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/how-will-the-globalists-game-end

As for how stupid AI is, your opinion diverges from mine:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-stupidity-of-ai-assists-human

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Clyde's avatar

Enter the "Administrative State" where any peon can be king for a day. Robbery, Blobbery and Snobbery all rolled up into one. It never ceases to amaze me how the least informed on any given situation have somehow transformed into the most "authoritative". He says, she says, works for me mentality. I mean after all, what does facts have to do with it?

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gregory wales's avatar

Thanks for the history lesson!

I appreciate the continuity of the account.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Thank you for noticing the single interpretive frame in the article.

My work usually evolves in a consistent manner. I've been the same person from the beginning (May 6, 2022). Also, considering the weight of quite a few of my publications, I have a respectably low number of readers (about 4,600), which also suggests that I can be credited to some extent.

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mary-lou's avatar

credited you are, at least among your readers. very impressive article, big TQ!

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Thank you. I usually don't blow my own horn, so I didn't include in the article that I am considering this one of my most important ones.

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James H's avatar

I am fascinated by this subject because history, which I love, and it's revisionism comes so much into play. This woman has done a tremendous amount of work on the subject and this is not her only post on the subject. She even names the people in other posts so it's a fantastic rabbit hole to venture down. Would love to hear your thoughts.

https://open.substack.com/pub/francesleader/p/who-rules-the-world?r=63eqd&utm_medium=ios

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

She and I are unlikely to be best friends. We disagreed first, when I pointed out that she was blaming the Jesuits for events that happened a hundred years before the Jesuit order was founded. She also declared to be a witch, a detail I didn't particularly care for, but let it go.

She banned me after I questioned her recommendation of zeolite. I said, in

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/is-healing-a-myth-altogether

"Recommendations on zeolite, for example, usually come from parties that are also selling it, which alone discredits the practice. I’m personally convinced that there is no free lunch, and somehow, I have a hard time to believe that zeolite is a good idea to have in the bloodstream."

She thought I was calling her a quack, but instead of engaging in a productive dialogue, she left a few diatribes in my comment section and banned me. I also banned her after she attacked me again in someone else's comment section. The amount of hatred pouring out of her heart made me cautious about whatever else she was saying.

I have been familiar with the idea of Black Nobility, which she propagates, but I am finding it simplistic and an easy fix, mostly based on false analogies. A few facts are, of course also present, because otherwise the idea couldn't be sold.

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mary-lou's avatar

after I once mentioned the possibility of a 'biblical (aka flat) earth', she reacted most viciously (since then not following her ss any more). NASA releasing silly videos from the purported ISS crews - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tcx8hU8qtY and many of the dubious billionaire-technocrats using the terms 'global' and 'planet', makes the idea of a stationary, flat earth (a plane, not a planet) seem more and more realistic. it's just a thought, right....

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JP Spatzier's avatar

I got banned by her way back. She doesn’t like being asked questions she can’t answer & attacks

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Richard Seager's avatar

I figure she turned up on my Substack 3 or so years ago to cannibalise my readership. She knew what she was doing and I kind of knew what she was doing as well. But that did not matter as the strategy seemed to work. Part of that strategy was to block me from her site (others have done the same thing, Sage for example) while abusing me on my site which tended to turn off readers from my blog.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

I'm wondering if she was doing that to me, too, not that it matters.

Her fast-growing readership, however, indicates an insider player or the stupidity of many humans...

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mary-lou's avatar

....ouch....

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James H's avatar

Unfortunately the video is no longer available, at least that's what I'm getting on my phone.

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mary-lou's avatar

you're right, that's a shame. there might be other clips (on youtube or elsewhere)....?

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Pamela Smith's avatar

I think the world will soon realize that it has been "the Jews" who have corralled all the money through their secret cabal, but they are just being used and abused by the devil. The Jews seem to be the primary targets because Israel was once favored by God, and the spirits hate God. "Our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the powers, the principalities, world forces of this darkness, and spiritual forces of wickedness in the realm of the spirit." If the world rises up against the Jews, that will only feed the power of the realm enemy of mankind, who exists inside us all. It is our own fallen spirits. We must look to the very beginning of the Bible to understand how we became divine creatures, and to see that the "serpent" could not have been a talking snake, but must have been a projection from inside the body of Eve that spoke to and deceived her (in her natural and innocent soul), and that this fallen spirit emanated itself into all humanity, one person, one generation, at a time. And that spirit was ruled by its desire to be equal to its source, who is Elohim. Elohim must have descended into Adam in order for Adam to be the "image of God". We are fallen divine creatures, divided within ourselves. That is why we are so guilty. We must win the battle that has been going on inside ourselves since the beginning of time. Our natural souls are sensory creatures, so we are connected with each other and with our world. But our fallen spirits are not interested in us or this world and want only to escape back into the realm of spirit. But they can't. They are locked down to earth. We must see this and win the battle for God and humanity.

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shobusun's avatar

Very interesting concept, and, I believe, something I’ve never heard before. The idea of a talking snake has always seemed a little odd to me, and I’ve always felt kind of sorry for snakes being cast in such a negative light (same for black cats, sharks, etc.)…it seems the snake part was purely mythological or used metaphorically for the purpose of creating a visible enemy- and it works well, because some snakes are in fact very dangerous, and have such an unusual, if not amazing, physical presence. 😉🙂

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Pamela Smith's avatar

I'm gratified by your reply, Shobusun.

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Fran's avatar

Diversity is certainly not any country's strengths. Mixed cultures provide a society of chaos, obviously on purpose, so as to divert the people as to what their government is actually doing to its people. They are destroying all of our different cultures, vast histories on our past, and those structures.

I watched a video of the flooding that happened in West Virginia. Was not aware of that situation if not for "More Perfect Union" on YT. Trump gave money, not sure how much, to 4 of the 11 flooded counties. Why do we have a government that really can't govern when people, even the most poor, come forwards and willingly help each other?

I would admit that I hope there is a day, soon, where we do in fact, string up our politicians and those responsible.

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Clyde's avatar

Do you remember who coined the term "groupies"? One group calls for diversity, and the other calling for unity, The last time I read my Bible , I don't remember God joining with any groups, but laid down the law as to what these groups or individuals should be doing. God isn't just apolitical, he is righteous and holy, and those who call him a liar want to set the world on fire, but a bruised reed he shall not break and smoking flax he shall not quench.

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Fran's avatar

I had an old co-worker who was from Germany and she claimed to follow the Beatles around, before they became international. She considered herself a "groupie". Back in the very early 60s.

No, God did not preach about groups. Love thy neighbor. I try to be nice/kind to anyone, even tho sometimes its extremely hard. And some people don't deserve my love. I tend to ignore them and divorce their evilness out of my life.

Trump talks about God and this and that, but he isn't following God's laws, at all.

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Clyde's avatar

When the criminal bureaucrats decided that my wife and I had to be "criminalized" for our consensual agreement to get married and have a son, in a traditional nuclear family, they couldn't have that, natural parents raising their own children without the states wisdom. Elizabeth Nickson just did a wonderful piece of work on her substack about all the different conspirators, and how they all act together collusively, collectively and in concert to glean those unlawful riches that they would and should not be able to obtain lawfully or by nature. There are only two parents for any child, there was never a third party agreement made except among the conspirators.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Sorry about your story... What happened?

Can you provide a link to Nickson's article, please?

In my article, I suggest that all these groups are serving their own interests, and their objectives happen to serve the globalist scheme. It doesn't look like anybody is boss, which is good news for the people, assuming there will be any left to resist, because these monsters will eventually turn on each other, because they know they cannot be trusted, and only one can rule...

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/how-will-the-globalists-game-end

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

Another novel with no conclusion apart from (a);blame the Jews. (b) I could have been rich but I didn't have the balls or the knowledge to do anything. (c) Pay me for writing that I'm all talk and no action.

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