As late as 1987 UC refused to have MSDS posted in labs. Further, no lockers for med students lab coats when marched into unventilated lecture halls. Further no information on lab clean up after spills. UC Student Lobby had to get the Legislature to force UC to change it's evil ways.
Unpaid got 3 years of lobbying, leg analysis, and archivist for the Lobby. My first job after college was a 20 year study of Tort Reform for California Cast Metals Association on contract. Then I moved to SF.
So my memories date to early 60’s visits. 1987 I turned 30. My joke was all the smart people moved to SF. I did too. As late as 1990 still Bohemia. Then came Tech wave 1 and all changed in an eye blink. I think you passed through in that first wave right? 1989 is in back of my mind?
Sorry "bro" but you're making a point against your own argument: "You can live without chemical drug supplements"
Yes - and what is the vast majority of food from the grocery store tainted with, lol?
Then, you assume my diet is unhealthy based off my appreciation for supplements. I do both, and I eat healthier than anyone I know.
I'm sorry my fake name bothers you, but I'm actually not a troll. Also, I have used supplements to increase the effectiveness of treating illness with diet, and they have saved me some trips to the doctor. You can't get everything from food, by the way. There are millions of supplements to chose from, and I'm not being forced to ingest them (outside of processed food, which I stay away from).
Thanks Ray. On hydroponics, also note that the PVC tubes making the system may leak PVCs into the water and thus the plants. There are certificates of safety a company can get but they usually just say, "safe for plant growing" which means.....0.
We've been duped! Looking for alternative "natural " medicines.
Looking for to fill in the " missing " pieces to our health.
Evil for good...
We are ingesting chemicals from the same companies that we are trying to avoid. Poisoning ourselves slowly. And for what! It is so incredibly rare to be deficient in ( vitamins) which in turn they are only giving us a specific molecule back from the whole food in which they get it from 😅
Yeah, ''Agent'' has a lot of bad takes, not to mention he's a tried-and-true... Trump shill.
Here's my advice from someone who isn't an obvious shill, or looking to poison the well. Do not paint supplements with a broad brush. Tons of highly intelligent people take them. I have taken probiotics that I know for a fact help me. There's like, hundreds of thousands of supplements, yeah they're all from China but I've taken countless over the years and 99% were 99% harmless (1% being me taking something stupid, or just bad luck). There are even supplements that raise IQ.
Most water bottles are heavily poisoned, and so is all tap water, and it's a total pain to truly filter your water. Why don't you and Agent focus on stuff like that, instead of doing several articles on supplements, which no one is forced to ingest? Supplements are like groceries - some are dangerous, and some are safe. You just have to know what you're doing!
If anything, you can get into trouble because they can give your body too much of a boost, and for example, you might not know if you're sick, and push yourself too hard and end up with an autoimmune condition. So, while I don't recommend supplements to others (since fasting and farm-based eating is my pinnacle as of right now) I always loved trying stuff out for myself and my experience with supplements has been VERY positive.
Ray, you should know, since you already knew blood tests and diagnostics are a scam, and they are; the best indicator of one's ailments is paying very close attention to your own body. The world's healthiest person, whoever they are, I'm willing to bet doesn't even know what LabCorp or Quest is. Blood tests, and diagnostics are all about easy money, just like any medical scam.
As for Jessica, all kinds of deficiencies are common, probably not vitamins, but we have lots of deficiencies because of the American diet and toxins. And yes, don't bother testing for said deficiencies, as the only somewhat useful blood tests are the hormonal ones. My bloodwork is all over the place, that's just the body doing it's thing, and "reference ranges" are bogus.
Lucas, sorry bro, supplements are not like groceries. You can live without chemical drug supplements. Good luck living without natural food groceries. You've played your hand here on SS. Like Kenneth J. Hinkemeyer (a troll or chatbott troll), it's time for you to get a new name.
Even though you used paragraphs to break up your comment, ultra-long comments like yours indicate you are trolling. Agent brought you facts which reveal truth, and you are snubbing your nose at him and Ray.
I just wanted to touch on part of your comment... " no one is forced to ingest"
Unfortunately in Canada all of our flour and milk is fortified with vitamins. It took over a year of searching to find a little company that sells organic flour without the supplements. Otherwise it's illegal to sell here. And thankfully they don't have to put anything in the cream but all milk is tainted. I've yet to find a farm that will sell pure milk. But I barely use milk anyway so not such a big deal.
The body usually detoxes itself until the toxicity exceeds its tolerance threshold. I personally never experienced any good outcome from any supplements, with the rare exception of an initial boost that lasted only a week or so, and the relapse was worse than the original condition.
As your experience is difference, you might be interested in writing an article about it with specific details; I'm looking forward to reading it.
From the very beginning on Substack, I have been emphasizing that everybody most pay attention to themselves, because nobody knows them better. Also, here is my initiative for a new medical paradigm that redefines health and illness:
Bloodwork steals the person's DNA (which is sold to inquiring parties), and along with clinical tests, is a tool for telling people who experience no symptoms that they are ill...
Well, when you connect the dots, he wrote an article saying people are "fools not to vote", and he claimed (responding to me pointing it out) that he didn't think the assassination attempts looked fake to him. Like I said, I like the guy, but connect the dots, he's at least something resembling a Republican shill.
As for the staged assassination ordeal, Agent is obviously an intelligent guy, so I assume he actually knows it was fake, and just can't admit it... or doesn't want to. Also, he stayed quiet about it after if occured, which is suspicious in its own right given how many people would have liked him to cover it.
The quality of his labor does fluctuate a lot, and I have to contextualize it in order to appreciate or just evaluate it. Still, when he is his best, the contents are exceptional. My approach saves what is good and ignores the rest of the story. The same method helps me with just about everyone else, and I am urging my readers to do the same with my work:
As far as I remember, Agent urged people not to vote (the article was less than memorable to me, because it didn't say anything I hadn't said several times before), which is what I am also doing: voting only allows for blaming the voters and acknowledges a criminal system.
If you have a link to your comment, it would be most appreciated, because only someone VERY stupid, intentionally misleading, or obedient to their handler(s) wouldn't have noticed that the attempt was fake. I even made an exception (I don't write about the political circus, because the results are always the same; the taxpayer gets screwed):
Absolutely, when he's right, he's great. He is wrong about supplements. Supplements are a very important freedom that we have, you can't actually treat everything with diet, and not everyone can make their own medicine, so supplements allow the average person to treat themselves. I've used countless that work, with zero negative effects. I take over 30 every day. They are not anything like drugs, you just have to know what to avoid.
I'm so thankful to live in Canada in the country with clean water supply.
We have a huge garden and fruit trees.
I suppose with tainted water and terrible food in America, some could be lacking but I'd say the addition of unnecessary supplements is not going to make it better
Depends on your definition of clean... "Clean" water as in containing toxic cleaning agents, that are endocrine disruptors and IQ reducers? Yup, we've got plenty of of clean water here in the States, lol.
Agent has said some bad things, and he's misinformed about some of the topics he writes about. Don't take his word for gospel.
And I would comment over his place but I'm not a paid subscriber.
He did a rant claiming that B12 is cyanide. Now, the cheapest form of B12 is processed with cyanide - but it's still B12. And it's the form most readily available in North America. But you can get methyl or hydroxo B12 either from a compounding pharmacy or ordering overseas.
This matters because there's an illness called pernicious anaemia. That's when your body can't absorb B12 from food or tablets, but you do need B12. It's quite real, and I almost died before a cluey doctor caught on.
If you have pernicious anaemia, you need B12 injections. Full stop.
And if all that's available is cyano, it won't kill you. It'll save your life, and if the illness hasn't gone on too long, it'll also save you from severe neurological damage.
Sorry to break it to you whiskeys, but you're wrong. Shots of anything are the last thing anyone needs. A cluey doctor? Really? Full stop? OK Clark Kent, we believe you, NOT. That's all? Promise?
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. I speak the truth and everything I say is easily verifiable. The truth is at your fingertips. Misinformed? I think not. Like Agent says, if injecting yourself is working for you, then by all means inject yourself.
Ok. So I was very sick with putative MS. And the neuro fortunately thought to test for B12 and parietal cells since pernicious anaemia and MS have identical presentations - right down to the brain lesions and inflammation.
So...injectable B12 And I got better.
But that was all...psychosomatic according to you? Like I didn't believe in MS but I did believe in chronic vitamin deficiency? And nobody has any genetic defects, they just think they do?
You're free to believe what you wish, of course, my experience suggests otherwise.
But I'm glad you're healthy - hey, it works for you.
For that matter, I was (mis)"diagnosed" a year ago as someone having "blood cancer." Of course, I never allowed ANY more "tests" or "treatments," and I am still alive and kicking. :)
"One who does not study astrology should not be a physician"
Hippocrates
Ray I do and see that the skeleton is ruled by Saturn which is in opposition to the natal Saturn of a 74 year old, the planet of old age. On Christmas it is being challenged by Jupiter as a square.
This was the science for millennia along with plants.
As late as 1987 UC refused to have MSDS posted in labs. Further, no lockers for med students lab coats when marched into unventilated lecture halls. Further no information on lab clean up after spills. UC Student Lobby had to get the Legislature to force UC to change it's evil ways.
Unpaid got 3 years of lobbying, leg analysis, and archivist for the Lobby. My first job after college was a 20 year study of Tort Reform for California Cast Metals Association on contract. Then I moved to SF.
My condolences about SF... :)
So my memories date to early 60’s visits. 1987 I turned 30. My joke was all the smart people moved to SF. I did too. As late as 1990 still Bohemia. Then came Tech wave 1 and all changed in an eye blink. I think you passed through in that first wave right? 1989 is in back of my mind?
I was with the Lobby
And I was packing shipments, while teaching for University Behind Bars. :)
https://libraries.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb9694011q/_1.pdf
I worked for UC Student Lobby. I was there.
Sounds good enough. For that matter, even as a graduate student, I used to work for the library. :)
That's excellent info. Pinning it, but I am still expecting a link of confirmation.
Sorry "bro" but you're making a point against your own argument: "You can live without chemical drug supplements"
Yes - and what is the vast majority of food from the grocery store tainted with, lol?
Then, you assume my diet is unhealthy based off my appreciation for supplements. I do both, and I eat healthier than anyone I know.
I'm sorry my fake name bothers you, but I'm actually not a troll. Also, I have used supplements to increase the effectiveness of treating illness with diet, and they have saved me some trips to the doctor. You can't get everything from food, by the way. There are millions of supplements to chose from, and I'm not being forced to ingest them (outside of processed food, which I stay away from).
If most supplements are dangerous, then that make big pharma drugs extremely so.
One doesn't exclude the other...
Thanks Ray. On hydroponics, also note that the PVC tubes making the system may leak PVCs into the water and thus the plants. There are certificates of safety a company can get but they usually just say, "safe for plant growing" which means.....0.
That's just another factor I haven't even noticed. Thank you for adding it!
Same idea for PET bottles. The longer you you have water in them the more PET gets in the water.
PM, I use glass bottles and get my water from a natural source.
www.findaspring.com
The controllers hate that. The last thing they want for us is to have clean pure anything.
We've been duped! Looking for alternative "natural " medicines.
Looking for to fill in the " missing " pieces to our health.
Evil for good...
We are ingesting chemicals from the same companies that we are trying to avoid. Poisoning ourselves slowly. And for what! It is so incredibly rare to be deficient in ( vitamins) which in turn they are only giving us a specific molecule back from the whole food in which they get it from 😅
Jessica, the Satanic creed; good is evil, and evil is good. Some twisted logic there.
Yeah, ''Agent'' has a lot of bad takes, not to mention he's a tried-and-true... Trump shill.
Here's my advice from someone who isn't an obvious shill, or looking to poison the well. Do not paint supplements with a broad brush. Tons of highly intelligent people take them. I have taken probiotics that I know for a fact help me. There's like, hundreds of thousands of supplements, yeah they're all from China but I've taken countless over the years and 99% were 99% harmless (1% being me taking something stupid, or just bad luck). There are even supplements that raise IQ.
Most water bottles are heavily poisoned, and so is all tap water, and it's a total pain to truly filter your water. Why don't you and Agent focus on stuff like that, instead of doing several articles on supplements, which no one is forced to ingest? Supplements are like groceries - some are dangerous, and some are safe. You just have to know what you're doing!
If anything, you can get into trouble because they can give your body too much of a boost, and for example, you might not know if you're sick, and push yourself too hard and end up with an autoimmune condition. So, while I don't recommend supplements to others (since fasting and farm-based eating is my pinnacle as of right now) I always loved trying stuff out for myself and my experience with supplements has been VERY positive.
Ray, you should know, since you already knew blood tests and diagnostics are a scam, and they are; the best indicator of one's ailments is paying very close attention to your own body. The world's healthiest person, whoever they are, I'm willing to bet doesn't even know what LabCorp or Quest is. Blood tests, and diagnostics are all about easy money, just like any medical scam.
As for Jessica, all kinds of deficiencies are common, probably not vitamins, but we have lots of deficiencies because of the American diet and toxins. And yes, don't bother testing for said deficiencies, as the only somewhat useful blood tests are the hormonal ones. My bloodwork is all over the place, that's just the body doing it's thing, and "reference ranges" are bogus.
Lucas, sorry bro, supplements are not like groceries. You can live without chemical drug supplements. Good luck living without natural food groceries. You've played your hand here on SS. Like Kenneth J. Hinkemeyer (a troll or chatbott troll), it's time for you to get a new name.
Even though you used paragraphs to break up your comment, ultra-long comments like yours indicate you are trolling. Agent brought you facts which reveal truth, and you are snubbing your nose at him and Ray.
I just wanted to touch on part of your comment... " no one is forced to ingest"
Unfortunately in Canada all of our flour and milk is fortified with vitamins. It took over a year of searching to find a little company that sells organic flour without the supplements. Otherwise it's illegal to sell here. And thankfully they don't have to put anything in the cream but all milk is tainted. I've yet to find a farm that will sell pure milk. But I barely use milk anyway so not such a big deal.
Didn't notice Agent supporting any politician.
The body usually detoxes itself until the toxicity exceeds its tolerance threshold. I personally never experienced any good outcome from any supplements, with the rare exception of an initial boost that lasted only a week or so, and the relapse was worse than the original condition.
As your experience is difference, you might be interested in writing an article about it with specific details; I'm looking forward to reading it.
From the very beginning on Substack, I have been emphasizing that everybody most pay attention to themselves, because nobody knows them better. Also, here is my initiative for a new medical paradigm that redefines health and illness:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-makes-people-sick-apart-from
Bloodwork steals the person's DNA (which is sold to inquiring parties), and along with clinical tests, is a tool for telling people who experience no symptoms that they are ill...
Well, when you connect the dots, he wrote an article saying people are "fools not to vote", and he claimed (responding to me pointing it out) that he didn't think the assassination attempts looked fake to him. Like I said, I like the guy, but connect the dots, he's at least something resembling a Republican shill.
As for the staged assassination ordeal, Agent is obviously an intelligent guy, so I assume he actually knows it was fake, and just can't admit it... or doesn't want to. Also, he stayed quiet about it after if occured, which is suspicious in its own right given how many people would have liked him to cover it.
The only thing suspicious here is Lucas Nascarip de ROTHSCHILD.
Yeah, that's my real name... I'm hanging out with my family as we speak.
The quality of his labor does fluctuate a lot, and I have to contextualize it in order to appreciate or just evaluate it. Still, when he is his best, the contents are exceptional. My approach saves what is good and ignores the rest of the story. The same method helps me with just about everyone else, and I am urging my readers to do the same with my work:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/a-formidable-tool-at-your-disposal
As far as I remember, Agent urged people not to vote (the article was less than memorable to me, because it didn't say anything I hadn't said several times before), which is what I am also doing: voting only allows for blaming the voters and acknowledges a criminal system.
If you have a link to your comment, it would be most appreciated, because only someone VERY stupid, intentionally misleading, or obedient to their handler(s) wouldn't have noticed that the attempt was fake. I even made an exception (I don't write about the political circus, because the results are always the same; the taxpayer gets screwed):
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-trump-card
Absolutely, when he's right, he's great. He is wrong about supplements. Supplements are a very important freedom that we have, you can't actually treat everything with diet, and not everyone can make their own medicine, so supplements allow the average person to treat themselves. I've used countless that work, with zero negative effects. I take over 30 every day. They are not anything like drugs, you just have to know what to avoid.
I'm so thankful to live in Canada in the country with clean water supply.
We have a huge garden and fruit trees.
I suppose with tainted water and terrible food in America, some could be lacking but I'd say the addition of unnecessary supplements is not going to make it better
Depends on your definition of clean... "Clean" water as in containing toxic cleaning agents, that are endocrine disruptors and IQ reducers? Yup, we've got plenty of of clean water here in the States, lol.
No, like I have a really deep well and no neibour's or farms near it.
Do you mean artesian? That would cost about $40k to drill around here.
Yes it was probably fairly costly! But it was done by the owners of the property way before I arrived
It doesn't look like there is way out in the "West."
Agent has said some bad things, and he's misinformed about some of the topics he writes about. Don't take his word for gospel.
And I would comment over his place but I'm not a paid subscriber.
He did a rant claiming that B12 is cyanide. Now, the cheapest form of B12 is processed with cyanide - but it's still B12. And it's the form most readily available in North America. But you can get methyl or hydroxo B12 either from a compounding pharmacy or ordering overseas.
This matters because there's an illness called pernicious anaemia. That's when your body can't absorb B12 from food or tablets, but you do need B12. It's quite real, and I almost died before a cluey doctor caught on.
If you have pernicious anaemia, you need B12 injections. Full stop.
And if all that's available is cyano, it won't kill you. It'll save your life, and if the illness hasn't gone on too long, it'll also save you from severe neurological damage.
That's all.
Sorry to break it to you whiskeys, but you're wrong. Shots of anything are the last thing anyone needs. A cluey doctor? Really? Full stop? OK Clark Kent, we believe you, NOT. That's all? Promise?
Wow! You mean I won't end up with paralysis and barely breathing on my own (with the help of a breathing mask) if I stop giving myself injections?
What miracle do you speak of?
Seriously.
It's just my nerves?
I really, really wish that was true.
But it's not.
I don’t wish bad on you, but you seem to misinformed on this one.
It's good to have a civil conversation. When did Tony ever say anything about a "miracle"?
There are way too many sources to kill/harm people:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/an-unlikely-synthesis-a-comprehensive
Ok, I accept that toxins can cause illness. No question there.
But what about things like anaemia - and other chronic illnesses - that have been around forever?
Granted, malnutrition, bad food, bad water can cause some of them, but I think some of us just get unlucky.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. I speak the truth and everything I say is easily verifiable. The truth is at your fingertips. Misinformed? I think not. Like Agent says, if injecting yourself is working for you, then by all means inject yourself.
Ok. So I was very sick with putative MS. And the neuro fortunately thought to test for B12 and parietal cells since pernicious anaemia and MS have identical presentations - right down to the brain lesions and inflammation.
So...injectable B12 And I got better.
But that was all...psychosomatic according to you? Like I didn't believe in MS but I did believe in chronic vitamin deficiency? And nobody has any genetic defects, they just think they do?
You're free to believe what you wish, of course, my experience suggests otherwise.
But I'm glad you're healthy - hey, it works for you.
You can always comment here as long as your comments are relevant and, preferably, documented (the latter is not expected, but most welcome).
Agent is not perfect, and neither am I. All I'm asking my readers to do is make up their own minds after a few discerning pieces of consideration:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-to-read-now-and-how
For that matter, I was (mis)"diagnosed" a year ago as someone having "blood cancer." Of course, I never allowed ANY more "tests" or "treatments," and I am still alive and kicking. :)
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/being-synthetic-when-i-nearly-died
So, you still believe in diagnostics?
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/how-do-you-know-you-are-sick-or-how
Neurological damages are another platform. Neurologists, in general, usually have next to no idea what they are talking about...
Traditional poisons are still also in charge:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/old-and-fabled-toxins-for-the-public
Once a diagnosis comes back , its like a spell over the patient. Then they really fall ill or get worse from the treatment.
💯
Some diagnostics are valid, sure. And a lot are money wasters - as well as being very painful.
And more than a few doctors are idiots.
Which kind of makes things a minefield, I agree.
Not that it needs to be said, but don't believe everything you see on the internet.
MOST diagnostic procedures are... Honest doctors burn out or chased away in two or three years... I know...
Where would you draw the line?
I know where I am drawing it. :)
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/freedom-is-what-freedom-does-but
"One who does not study astrology should not be a physician"
Hippocrates
Ray I do and see that the skeleton is ruled by Saturn which is in opposition to the natal Saturn of a 74 year old, the planet of old age. On Christmas it is being challenged by Jupiter as a square.
This was the science for millennia along with plants.
We are all connected to the cosmos.
There's a lot to be said for decumbiture. Not my field though I did study some with Margaret Millard, who was both an astrologer and a physician.
Love Nicky Culpeper, too.
Me? Horary and mundane. Quarter charts over transits, no outer planets allowed :D
I beg your pardon, but is it possible to keep the conversation relevant to the article, please?
Good one Ray. Trolls seem to be out in full force these days.
Sorry, I don't believe in astrology...
If you have ANY convincing information, please, post it. Otherwise, it's irrelevant and doesn't belong in my comment sections...
Oh, and there is no "we"; "we" is a term to further divide people:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/divide-and-rule-is-working-in-mysterious
Merry Christmas Ray and Mrs.
✝️🎄🎁😞🎁🎄✝️