Ray is fighting to get information to people. Please share his work. He is dissuaded because cartels spend billions to keep their bullshit narratives alive. So send him to the top of the charts substack. Ray has dug up some tremendous details. I recommend you subscribe, and read him often. My work will be taken down again. It is only a matter of time.
So much of what Steve does seems like a temper tantrum that he can't get over. I suspect he knows he's in a trap that he can't get out of; he knows that virologists either are lying or are so consumed by their worldview that they couldn't possibly alter it; he draws attention to himself reflexively (like that's all he does, really); and his fixations on things that don't matter make him less relevant. He's on the wrong side of history with "viruses," he knows it, and he's perhaps hoping some brilliant virologist out there will be able to save him, even though none can do the impossible.
Are there tiny fairies dancing polka on the tip of this needle? We can not see any, so they are there, but just a few of them.
Nonexistence of something can actually be proven if the space where it is supposed to be is limited and searchable. So when they look into a patient sample and can not find any viruses, the conclusion should logically be they are not there, not that there is too few of them.
"The worst part of Steve’s “challenge” is that it also works as a diversion from the imminent food and energy shortages, the building of mercenary armies, and the fully-operational “Green Zones” (aka. death camps)."
In that vein, here's something I find particularly chilling:
South Africa must NOT be allowed to fall into medical tyranny!
My FAVORITE comment on that entire Steve Kirsch post is as follows:
Max
20 hr ago
I would love seeing a group of unbiased researchers performing the steps described. As I said, I don't have money to bet anything or finance such work. But someone else could. Those are logic and necessary steps, I believe.
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Steve Kirsch
18 hr agoAuthor
That is not how science works. Science does not prescribe a specific method to make a specific determination.
^^^ I laughed out loud so hard at that 😂 thats all you need to know about Mr Kirsch - the guy who "relies on experts to tell him whether or not viruses have been isolated" (his words, not mine).... "experts" like Malone, who are funded by Big Pharma & DoD, and who has his very own version of the CV quackzine, which is OBVIOUSLY much safer & more effective than all the others. Obviously!
I'm linking this again just because I find it so comical. And because so many people in the so-called truth movement WORSHIP this man.
Aug 2, 2022·edited Aug 2, 2022Liked by Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)
As you've already alluded to... Covid-19 has never been isolated and purified and appears to be nothing more than a 'diagnosed set of symptoms'. Which of course is ideal for their numbers game of "cases". When they ramp that PCR up to 48 cycles, they can safely stamp any old sniffle as being a Covid-positive! Throw in a few million of their ludicrous 'asymptomatic' cases and the sky's the limit! Throw in a little Remdesivir and a ventilator.. you've got the ultimate C-19 case... a burial.
Ray, you know I don't ascribe to the no virus theory, if I did I wouldn't have studied them for 40+ years. However, this in no way is a "virus vs toxin argument."
Few of us are going to argue that "there are no toxins" because we all know there are.
We also know, that frequently the toxin plus virus scenario causes disease, even cancer, and some of these toxins are electromagnetic, radioactive, gamma/cosmic ray, and such.
I only ask that you keep an open mind.
Recklessly discarding decades of work by thousands of researchers to fit some 'consensus' is not the way forward, in any event.
"No amount of evidence and explanation will make a difference to people dug in their beliefs, even if the arguments are simple and clear." THIS is what the other side says about us. No wonder Tom Cowan, Christine Massey, Mark Bailey, etc. won't talk to you. You can ask questions/discuss/debate/disagree and still not piss people off by not insulting them or their beliefs.
Aug 2, 2022·edited Aug 2, 2022Liked by Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)
My American History class in school taught me that the US GOV gave 'small pox' infected blankets to the Native Americans, resulting in their getting smallpox. So, no 5G or 4G or 3G then. Is it possible that there is both contagion AND 5G damage, and they can work in tandem to worsen sickness? Insisting all viral illnesses do not exist seems quite a stretch to me when I look at the history of illnesses. Black Plague would be included as evidence of 'something' spreading virally. Perhaps folks can attribute it all to some kind of solar flare or such? Finally, when moms would have a 'chickenpox' party so ALL the kids would get it at the same time and get it over with, like many of the childhood 'diseases' that develop natural immunity. None of this makes sense if you do not have some kind of 'contagion' that behaves so consistantly.
Ray is fighting to get information to people. Please share his work. He is dissuaded because cartels spend billions to keep their bullshit narratives alive. So send him to the top of the charts substack. Ray has dug up some tremendous details. I recommend you subscribe, and read him often. My work will be taken down again. It is only a matter of time.
It's a "we want to run the show" to which "they're trying to kill you with covid" is convenient but if they win they want to "keep that virus shit".
So much of what Steve does seems like a temper tantrum that he can't get over. I suspect he knows he's in a trap that he can't get out of; he knows that virologists either are lying or are so consumed by their worldview that they couldn't possibly alter it; he draws attention to himself reflexively (like that's all he does, really); and his fixations on things that don't matter make him less relevant. He's on the wrong side of history with "viruses," he knows it, and he's perhaps hoping some brilliant virologist out there will be able to save him, even though none can do the impossible.
Are there tiny fairies dancing polka on the tip of this needle? We can not see any, so they are there, but just a few of them.
Nonexistence of something can actually be proven if the space where it is supposed to be is limited and searchable. So when they look into a patient sample and can not find any viruses, the conclusion should logically be they are not there, not that there is too few of them.
"The worst part of Steve’s “challenge” is that it also works as a diversion from the imminent food and energy shortages, the building of mercenary armies, and the fully-operational “Green Zones” (aka. death camps)."
In that vein, here's something I find particularly chilling:
South Africa must NOT be allowed to fall into medical tyranny!
https://substack.com/redirect/2/eyJlIjoiaHR0cHM6Ly9qYW1lc3JvZ3Vza2kuc3Vic3RhY2suY29tL3Avc291dGgtYWZyaWNhLW11c3Qtbm90LWJlLWFsbG93ZWQ_dG9rZW49ZXlKMWMyVnlYMmxrSWpvNU9EVXhPVEV3TlN3aWNHOXpkRjlwWkNJNk5qWXpNelk1Tnpnc0ltbGhkQ0k2TVRZMU9UUXdOamd5TUN3aWFYTnpJam9pY0hWaUxUYzBOalEzTlNJc0luTjFZaUk2SW5CdmMzUXRjbVZoWTNScGIyNGlmUS5LQmh0b3luUUNwVC1sUVJRZGhXSEdfcG9IQVhzZk5ObmtKUFJFbmprSnk4IiwicCI6NjYzMzY5NzgsInMiOjc0NjQ3NSwiZiI6dHJ1ZSwidSI6OTg1MTkxMDUsImlhdCI6MTY1OTQwNjgyMCwiaXNzIjoicHViLTAiLCJzdWIiOiJsaW5rLXJlZGlyZWN0In0.Tx9pusnhCDvycSkT-c4mvv48oSzkjFiL-fXyldQ5KRM?
I guess this is what controlled opposition looks like, I had the same feeling when he wrote about the lawsuit against Twitter.
My FAVORITE comment on that entire Steve Kirsch post is as follows:
Max
20 hr ago
I would love seeing a group of unbiased researchers performing the steps described. As I said, I don't have money to bet anything or finance such work. But someone else could. Those are logic and necessary steps, I believe.
ReplyGift a subscriptionCollapse

Steve Kirsch
18 hr agoAuthor
That is not how science works. Science does not prescribe a specific method to make a specific determination.
^^^ I laughed out loud so hard at that 😂 thats all you need to know about Mr Kirsch - the guy who "relies on experts to tell him whether or not viruses have been isolated" (his words, not mine).... "experts" like Malone, who are funded by Big Pharma & DoD, and who has his very own version of the CV quackzine, which is OBVIOUSLY much safer & more effective than all the others. Obviously!
I'm linking this again just because I find it so comical. And because so many people in the so-called truth movement WORSHIP this man.
https://www.unite4truth.com/post/what-is-relcovax-the-covid-19-vaccine-dr-robert-malone-pitched-at-summit-in-2021-nothing-good
As you've already alluded to... Covid-19 has never been isolated and purified and appears to be nothing more than a 'diagnosed set of symptoms'. Which of course is ideal for their numbers game of "cases". When they ramp that PCR up to 48 cycles, they can safely stamp any old sniffle as being a Covid-positive! Throw in a few million of their ludicrous 'asymptomatic' cases and the sky's the limit! Throw in a little Remdesivir and a ventilator.. you've got the ultimate C-19 case... a burial.
Here is the objective science. I posted this on Kirsch and Alexander's site. Alexander I am of two minds regarding. Kirsch I am not. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/297b780rk5kvbyx/AABo8GCfCdsD2E0nMHd0H623a?dl=0
Ray, you know I don't ascribe to the no virus theory, if I did I wouldn't have studied them for 40+ years. However, this in no way is a "virus vs toxin argument."
Few of us are going to argue that "there are no toxins" because we all know there are.
We also know, that frequently the toxin plus virus scenario causes disease, even cancer, and some of these toxins are electromagnetic, radioactive, gamma/cosmic ray, and such.
I only ask that you keep an open mind.
Recklessly discarding decades of work by thousands of researchers to fit some 'consensus' is not the way forward, in any event.
My comment on Kirsch's post...
"No amount of evidence and explanation will make a difference to people dug in their beliefs, even if the arguments are simple and clear." THIS is what the other side says about us. No wonder Tom Cowan, Christine Massey, Mark Bailey, etc. won't talk to you. You can ask questions/discuss/debate/disagree and still not piss people off by not insulting them or their beliefs.
My American History class in school taught me that the US GOV gave 'small pox' infected blankets to the Native Americans, resulting in their getting smallpox. So, no 5G or 4G or 3G then. Is it possible that there is both contagion AND 5G damage, and they can work in tandem to worsen sickness? Insisting all viral illnesses do not exist seems quite a stretch to me when I look at the history of illnesses. Black Plague would be included as evidence of 'something' spreading virally. Perhaps folks can attribute it all to some kind of solar flare or such? Finally, when moms would have a 'chickenpox' party so ALL the kids would get it at the same time and get it over with, like many of the childhood 'diseases' that develop natural immunity. None of this makes sense if you do not have some kind of 'contagion' that behaves so consistantly.