Thank you for taking the time to offer these ideas and reflections. I do not know about Proton, but I thought that Sam Bailey most often (or lately) addresses her critics - namely, AMD and others with a large audience.
Am I mistaken? Thanks for any clarifications.
Still never vaxxed - and spreading joy and good news to those with ears to hear.
There is nothing out there but 99.99% fakes. Still, they have to produce facts in order to be somewhat credible. All one has is the power of conjecturing:
It seems the "flies" group was a separate issue to myself and I was drawn into it because they knew their covert and misleading actions regarding me were going to be exposed. Its good and normal that none of us agree on everything and as long as sensible open debate can be held those reading our words can decide for themselves where their own perception of truth may lay.
It has certainly made me question some of those behind the viral stormy teacup and its purpose. Jamie's work is what I like as it appears more action based and real. I question the others who are getting huge $ amounts but not using it to do similar experimental work or doing what Drs should ( finding answers to what's killing kids for starters).
Your work has led me to more research on the gut connection to all this and while I am not keen on diving into the kak, its inevitable in the search for answers. Recently I have been looking at more sputum due to the odd cough afflicting many here. Many of the same culprits seen in the blood are present including the growing gel structures. Not something I wanted to see.
Thanks for your kind words, but I am just one of many small unqualified bit players trying to untangle this imbroglio.
Always happy to find common ground, and debate any differences of opinions. Perhaps we can even be an example of civilized discourse in these days of attacking the messenger to avoid responding to logical points made.
Its 3 am here so maybe we can pick a time where we are at our best cognitively. Cheers, M.
Heroes aren't self-decided ;) That title gets bestowed by others who've decided that you're doing/did the right thing, even against the current flow of popular consciousness.
You and Matt both meet my criteria. ❤️🔥
This thing, whatever it is, goes *down,* and in the largest part because of people like you.
Here are a few thoughts I'd like to share. For the following, I would start up a different article in order to make space for the discussion, if you have the time and the interest to pursue it. Would include our two comments here, and hope that the discussion would bear fruits. I am also a tiny player, but I have repeatedly found the power of conjecturing a free and powerful tool.
If you could gather some people (not sure of you can find any to be fully trusted, but only a tiny fraction of the research can be done alone) to find out about the problem with modified proteins, that would be a unique enterprise, all the more so, because the injections "only" seem to have put the problem on steroids, but the poisoning must have started around 1961. There is a single "doctor" selling some stuff on the Internet that is supposed to reverse the process, at least in the joints. It's supposed to replenish "proteolytic enzymes," whatever those are. To me, while it sounds logical, it sounds too good to be true; I don’t trust synthetic pharmaceutical products, and the type of advertising resembles snake oil salesmen: https://offers.losethebackpain.com/products/201/sp-super-joint-support-trial-missing-link.
It must also be considered that each batch was/is different in order to ensure plausible deniability and occasional revelations can be blamed on "contamination" or "human error." To me, the whole process looks like a few dozen out of about 1,200 toxins/bacteria/parasites selected by computer in compartmentalized processes so that even the human operators have no idea what's in each batch or, perhaps remaining completely unaware of the ruse.
Also, the sources of all these are most likely inhaled, besides being in injected materials. Inhaled toxins can also enter the bloodstream by circumventing the liver.
Finally, it must be considered that whatever is in the blood, it might be there only temporarily, until it (or some of it) is embedded into the body (spleen, brain, bone marrow, guts, lungs, whatever else).
Gel structures might have something to do with hydrogels (as you know, they are in a lot of things, and there are various kinds), which are most likely used for delivering graphene into the body to be used in semi-synthetic interfaces between AI commands through 5G or comparable technologies. They are either byproducts of this process or are also part of the synthetic materials to be embedded into the body, and the surplus piles up after a while. One option doesn't exclude the other...
My wife and I have never worn a muzzle, got "tested," or received any injections since around 2012 (at the time, it was dental Lidocaine), but developed the persistent cough and the sticky sputum ever since our neighbors have their "smart" electric meters installed. The new installations create a huge antenna from the local grid, and they also interrupt sleep between 1 and 4 AM: https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/can-you-sleep
There is a critical difference between death by vaccine or toxic treatment protocols (iatrogenic deaths), and deaths from an agent as yet unidentified, such as the 50k deaths in 25 counties in the NYC metropolitan area over 8 weeks in Spring 2020. That critical difference is CONSENT. In the US, medical treatments and vaccines are administered by consent.
The official US mortality data points to democide--that's why it is being covered up, especially in 2020, when deaths cannot be blamed on the (consented to) vaccines--even though as the table in Ray's article shows, there was only a small increase in deaths in 2021--deaths were still high from 2020. There is no clearer example of this evidence of democide than the NYC mass casualty event--you can see the data here (opinion-free and conclusions-free, just the numbers). https://www.virginiastoner.com/nyc-mass-casualty-event
How do you think it can be explained that official mortality rates in five countries in August, 2020, were lower than usual, and from September, they went up, and they were changed retroactively; for the Armed Forces, beck to 2015 (in that case, "only" death by "vaccines")?
My best guess was, and still is, that they simply forgot to manipulate the figures, which they corrected after I talked to a couple of embassies (and I know about at least one more person who called attention to this in August, 2020)...
Would you kindly, purely for the sake of discussion, assume the official mortality data correctly documents deaths, look at the characteristics of the deaths in the NYC mass casualty event, and render your opinion as to what the possible cause(s) may have been, based on that data? https://www.virginiastoner.com/nyc-mass-casualty-event
It strikes me as highly strange that death data simulating a democide would be fabricated, then covered up. So I wonder if you agree that the data at least raises a suspicion of intentional mass-murder.
No, "only" after the injections started. I realize you don't have the time to read my brief article, but that's what's in it.
In 2020, as far as I can see, the objective was to create the appearance of a pandemic (no such thing exists) in order to justify the (sooner-or-later) lethal injections.
The 5G installations certainly did the job with chemtrails and other means of mass murder:
PS: The mortality data for 2020 does NOT create the appearance of a pandemic--it creates the appearance of a mass casualty event by some unknowns means. So that pretty much blows your hypothesis on that. And it also explains why it was covered up.
So you cannot simply state why the US mortality records for 2020 are incorrect, and list the primary evidence to support it, so you want me to piece it together from your wiritngs?
If you show me the data I'll check it out. I never go on opinions or unsupported claims when it comes to matters of record because I've learned better--remember I have an entire category on my blog for the many ways the mortality data is being covered up--and this is only possible because we lazily dance around matters of record. The entire "retracted Johns Hopkins paper" operation--which continues to be cited as 'evidence' today--worked because no one looked up the numbers that are a matter of record. https://www.virginiastoner.com/writing/category/US+democide+coverup
Thanks for the comments Ginny. On the "consent" yes people consented, but it wasn't a true informed consent of the contents or known side effects, nor if/how any virus was proven, which we know was not, nor the purposes of the shots with all the nanotech in them. This uninformed and misinformed criminal consent goes against Nuremberg Code, Geneva Convention, and Helsinki Declarations in my understanding. That's a pretty burnt toast.
So if Rancourt is right about 31 million excess deaths globally from 2020-2022--and if it was NOT from something that people consented to, like medical treatment, or a vaccine--and if it was not a virus, or other natural means, then--well that pretty much puts an end to Hitler's reign as Most Evil, doesn't it?
On my end, I consider 30 million is a grave understatement. It's impossible to keep count on the numbers of fatal heart disease and cancer that is still producing the "desired" results. Shocking with numbers and even fake events is in the globalists' arsenal:
"Shocking" numerics seem to keep the actual number of victims by claiming ten times more than the media, and at least ten times less than the actual figures; it's standard procedure to keep the discussion within "justifiable" limits.
"Vaccines" became a side show already over two years ago:
Much about Hitler is a myth (mostly created and maintained by Hollywood and by the MSM that was conclusively hijacked no later than 2012), but, say, Stalin was an "ally," who claimed about 60 million victims. Doesn't that say enough about the way the banking system has been creating two world wars and countless other forms of democide?
People were poisoned by vaccines because they signed off on it. (Except children, who were assaulted.) They have a right to sign off on it. Sure, they were misled, as usual--so let's spend the next 10 years arguing about it in court, then sign a confidential settlement agreement. Big deal. Same goes for consensual medical treatment--it is not a crime against humanity, even if some people want to call it "iatrogenicide" to make it sound that way.
Hitler was an illustration because he's held up as a bad guy. Of course he was just another globalist role-player. I used the illustration because of the "6 million" story line.
"Not true consent"--of course--truly informed consent is an illusion. But they have the signature on a consent form, so that is a much deeper issue, and therefore leaves room for argument. There is absolutely no room for argument if someone covertly disbursed a chemical weapon, or covertly poisoned us with electromagnetic radiation--it is clear mass-murder under any standard.
A main focus of Proton's article was the Bailey's coverup of the US democide of 2020, including their complete failure to mention the massive increase in deaths in 2020 in their book The Final Pandemc, or ever, which I wrote about at this link. Yet for some reason, the Baileys did not name me on their enemies list--no doubt this would be at odds with the coverup. https://www.virginiastoner.com/writing/2024/6/5/the-final-pandemic-or-how-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-democide
You said that deaths in 2020 could have been retroactively altered--but I've previously proven this did not occur--at least the numbers did not change between November 2020 and May 2023.
There has been a lot of propaganda designed to create the impression there were little or no excess deaths in 2020, which continues to this day, starting with the "retracted Johns Hopkins paper" operation in November 2020. In spite of the "deaths were normal" message of this operation, it did include the number of deaths recorded between mid-March and mid-September 2020 (perhaps to mock our ignorance of the numbers?) --and that number was in fact huge compared to previous years, contrary to the assertion in the paper--and the number of deaths in the official records was approximately the same in November 2020 when the paper was published as it was in May 2023 when I broke it down here: https://www.virginiastoner.com/writing/2023/5/9/have-us-deaths-been-fabricated
Well, in August, 2020, I checked out five countries and talked to embassies about mortality rates that showed that in the five countries I checked, death rates were lower than usual. In September, I found that the figures were altered. I wonder how you can prove I was wrong.
It would have made sense to elevate death rates in order to prove there was a pandemic (pandemics don't exist) going on, but the figures showed the opposite.
As the corrections came in in September, 2020, I would put it down to sloppiness in the propaganda machine (it's not necessarily handled by the smartest cookies in the jar). Archive.com can always be used by anyone to recover previous posts on any, or at least most, we sites. This is EXACTLY the reason why I wonder when the charts you are using were published...
Again, show me your numbers, your data. If you are just going on memory from 4 years ago, and/or what someone verbally told you on the phone, I can't rely on that
I recently looked at the official mortality data for Canada here, if you are interested. They had a mass casualty event in Spring 2020 like the US, and a large increase in deaths in 2020, not as large as the US tho, according to this data. https://www.virginiastoner.com/writing/2024/7/13/democide-in-canada-2020-2022
People who think quickly and logically often make the mistake of assuming that others are the same. For them, the discovery of a truth immediately puts the picture together, as they immediately receive answers to 50 other questions. After that, they don't understand why their slow-thinking people have problems with questions that they practically answered with the 1 truth. Of course, this does not mean that there is no paid "opposition", it is only necessary to distinguish between slow thinkers and pseudo-opposition. Their style usually betrays them at some point because slow thinkers want arguments while they don't and think they are superior. They treat others condescendingly and humiliatingly. But I agree with everything else, good writing. Maybe your impatience stems from the fact that you were lucky in your life to be surrounded by mostly sensible people who were companions in conversations?
So glad to have read this post today for many reasons. Your SS's are always eye-openers for me, and to be quite honest and humble, I don't always understand everything you are writing about, but am always willing to learn. Recently I learned of another Substack that is making me question both the virus and no virus theory...maybe that is all a distraction for something else? The C C P is behind a lot of issues that we are experiencing covertly, and Brandon goes over some of them in his SS's. This is a link to a recent article he wrote.
Its showing your account also confirms my suspicion that they want to bundle you up with a number of other people, most of whom you have literally nothing in common.
From a nonscientist who hasn't followed or read many of the Substack contributors noted above, I can only say, "Wow." Some nasty people are writing on Substack. I marvel at people who expend their energy so frivolously.
I suppose many readers are like me and came to Substack in order to gain more information about the origins and machinations of the "Covid Crisis." Certainly I hoped to learn more about how to protect myself and enjoy what I term full health. I honestly sit here smh. I can't believe the pettiness and overextended egos. As you point out, I suppose some have other agendas and bosses whom we don't know.
So strange. I left a "spiritual website" a month or so ago because the whole approach simply didn't interest me anymore after several years. I had encountered some fantastic new lines of inquiries for discovery and self learning, but the school was ultimately geared toward a different type of individual and approach. There are no real relationships via the web. I hated to let go, though, because I lost my Buddhist community with their adoption of CDC protocols and slick video to encourage the vaxx in 2021.
I've reached some sort of plateau here, too, where I don't really care anymore about Covid, nanotechnology, 5G, and so forth. The only true thing I can find is my own life and self. Perhaps this is the result of which you speak, Ray. So much misdirection and false information simply creates a maelstrom which just makes people pull away.
I initially enjoyed all the information and different viewpoints pouring from Substack, but just in the last week, I've realized that, whether or not deliberate or orchestrated, much of the "information" is highly subjectively interpreted and analyzed. I do think you're right to encourage people to recognize that, in the end, all they've got is themselves to determine what matters and what they'll do about it. I think sharing personal anecdotal experience is probably the best the web can do.
Very much like the comment I was about to make in that Substack has been so informative and the different angles of approach to certain topics have been very enlightening but recently I am tiring of it. Everyone appears to be called a shill or controlled opposition by someone else and it is becoming too negative. Its a great shame as it has been amazing.
Good point, and we have to consider that was one of the points of making SS, which at the end of the day is designed to find out what we think, what sways us, see who our connections are, to corral us into a corner then make us into a mess. Standard narrative control tactics.
You can recognize shills by the number of followers and I have also supplied plenty of tools for it. Still, I am planning my next post to summarize them; not that I haven't done it before, but I can't expect anyone to browse through 936 articles. :)
You are on your own, and it's unpleasant to realize. Those who use "we" are most likely agents.
Moreover, it's possible to learn from shills, too, because they MUST publish facts that make them credible. Just don't believe their conclusions and mind the compartmentalization.
Common sense doesn't need a certificate, and you have that. :)
Just about everything that is at least halfway good on Substack is allowed only because it contributes to the general gaslighting. That includes my materials, so one's only option is to develop their own way of thinking about this all. That's why I only provide what I can and, although I've made up my mind four and a half years ago, I don't expect anyone to agree with me. Still, I hope that most people will make similar decisions and, as organized resistance is impossible, they will end up cooperating when the time comes WITHOUT waiting for each other.
On my part, I don't believe in any spiritual hocus-pocus; if the world is created by a benevolent Creator, all one has to do is place their trust where it belongs. If it's not, then nothing makes any difference. I know, it boils down to everyone's own experience, which I respect, even if they think I am not "spiritual." In fact, I have had my own experience:
That Dr Sam & Mark Bailey are playing their role, if they were truly a threat to the system with the attention they get they wouldn't be so successful, its all too slick aswell. Not that i believe viruses exsit in how we've been taught. More distractions imo, because it wont matter about the virology & germ theory debate, if these parasites enact the bio-digital medical & economic grid / green tyranny under the guise of sustainability.
How they haven't lost their licenses i don't know, ive see Dr's losing theirs for less in contemporary times, & Sam Baileys youtube channel is quite big to. I could be wrong of course lol.
I simply refuse to accept that viruses exist. My avoidance of all vaccines for decades has been prudent. Where are the viruses that these clowns claim exist? You ask the CDC and they never have anything to show us.
Obviously, nobody with two brain cells to rub together would accept that pathogenic viruses exist. The tiny particles that tend to be called viruses are most likely exosomes, parts of the body's detox process. They can exhibit some sort of uniformity, when they discard specific types of toxins:
The only common denominator between the bunch singled out by the Baileys is that they don't believe in viruses, at least as far as I know. That, however, doesn't make them heroes, and believing all (or just most) of them in most things would only contribute to the general gaslighting.
Dear Ray,
Thank you for taking the time to offer these ideas and reflections. I do not know about Proton, but I thought that Sam Bailey most often (or lately) addresses her critics - namely, AMD and others with a large audience.
Am I mistaken? Thanks for any clarifications.
Still never vaxxed - and spreading joy and good news to those with ears to hear.
Best
I really enjoyed this article Ray.
I had to read it again with my morning coffee to process everything written.
You confirmed many of my suspicions.
Over the months I have been weeding out my list and characters.
So many that tell half truths to stay in the line light.
Thank you.
Which suspicions?
There is nothing out there but 99.99% fakes. Still, they have to produce facts in order to be somewhat credible. All one has is the power of conjecturing:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/a-formidable-tool-at-your-disposal
The number of (especially "paid") subscribers usually speaks for itself.
Hi Ray,
It seems the "flies" group was a separate issue to myself and I was drawn into it because they knew their covert and misleading actions regarding me were going to be exposed. Its good and normal that none of us agree on everything and as long as sensible open debate can be held those reading our words can decide for themselves where their own perception of truth may lay.
It has certainly made me question some of those behind the viral stormy teacup and its purpose. Jamie's work is what I like as it appears more action based and real. I question the others who are getting huge $ amounts but not using it to do similar experimental work or doing what Drs should ( finding answers to what's killing kids for starters).
Your work has led me to more research on the gut connection to all this and while I am not keen on diving into the kak, its inevitable in the search for answers. Recently I have been looking at more sputum due to the odd cough afflicting many here. Many of the same culprits seen in the blood are present including the growing gel structures. Not something I wanted to see.
Thanks for your kind words, but I am just one of many small unqualified bit players trying to untangle this imbroglio.
Regards, Matt.
Sorry; I wasn't clear about it, but I'll start up a new post only if you are interested in a conversation about my comment here.
Always happy to find common ground, and debate any differences of opinions. Perhaps we can even be an example of civilized discourse in these days of attacking the messenger to avoid responding to logical points made.
Its 3 am here so maybe we can pick a time where we are at our best cognitively. Cheers, M.
I'll post this tomorrow as early as I can EST.
I do love it when the real heroes team up. ❤️🔥
Matt might be a hero; I'm certainly not one. :)
Heroes aren't self-decided ;) That title gets bestowed by others who've decided that you're doing/did the right thing, even against the current flow of popular consciousness.
You and Matt both meet my criteria. ❤️🔥
This thing, whatever it is, goes *down,* and in the largest part because of people like you.
Thank you kindly, Matt. Yes, let's keep in touch.
Here are a few thoughts I'd like to share. For the following, I would start up a different article in order to make space for the discussion, if you have the time and the interest to pursue it. Would include our two comments here, and hope that the discussion would bear fruits. I am also a tiny player, but I have repeatedly found the power of conjecturing a free and powerful tool.
If you could gather some people (not sure of you can find any to be fully trusted, but only a tiny fraction of the research can be done alone) to find out about the problem with modified proteins, that would be a unique enterprise, all the more so, because the injections "only" seem to have put the problem on steroids, but the poisoning must have started around 1961. There is a single "doctor" selling some stuff on the Internet that is supposed to reverse the process, at least in the joints. It's supposed to replenish "proteolytic enzymes," whatever those are. To me, while it sounds logical, it sounds too good to be true; I don’t trust synthetic pharmaceutical products, and the type of advertising resembles snake oil salesmen: https://offers.losethebackpain.com/products/201/sp-super-joint-support-trial-missing-link.
It must also be considered that each batch was/is different in order to ensure plausible deniability and occasional revelations can be blamed on "contamination" or "human error." To me, the whole process looks like a few dozen out of about 1,200 toxins/bacteria/parasites selected by computer in compartmentalized processes so that even the human operators have no idea what's in each batch or, perhaps remaining completely unaware of the ruse.
And there are things that haven't even been discovered. Sam's electro-conductive bacteria is a new development (https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/electro-transmitting-bacteria-in).
Also, the sources of all these are most likely inhaled, besides being in injected materials. Inhaled toxins can also enter the bloodstream by circumventing the liver.
Finally, it must be considered that whatever is in the blood, it might be there only temporarily, until it (or some of it) is embedded into the body (spleen, brain, bone marrow, guts, lungs, whatever else).
Gel structures might have something to do with hydrogels (as you know, they are in a lot of things, and there are various kinds), which are most likely used for delivering graphene into the body to be used in semi-synthetic interfaces between AI commands through 5G or comparable technologies. They are either byproducts of this process or are also part of the synthetic materials to be embedded into the body, and the surplus piles up after a while. One option doesn't exclude the other...
My wife and I have never worn a muzzle, got "tested," or received any injections since around 2012 (at the time, it was dental Lidocaine), but developed the persistent cough and the sticky sputum ever since our neighbors have their "smart" electric meters installed. The new installations create a huge antenna from the local grid, and they also interrupt sleep between 1 and 4 AM: https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/can-you-sleep
There is a critical difference between death by vaccine or toxic treatment protocols (iatrogenic deaths), and deaths from an agent as yet unidentified, such as the 50k deaths in 25 counties in the NYC metropolitan area over 8 weeks in Spring 2020. That critical difference is CONSENT. In the US, medical treatments and vaccines are administered by consent.
The official US mortality data points to democide--that's why it is being covered up, especially in 2020, when deaths cannot be blamed on the (consented to) vaccines--even though as the table in Ray's article shows, there was only a small increase in deaths in 2021--deaths were still high from 2020. There is no clearer example of this evidence of democide than the NYC mass casualty event--you can see the data here (opinion-free and conclusions-free, just the numbers). https://www.virginiastoner.com/nyc-mass-casualty-event
How do you think it can be explained that official mortality rates in five countries in August, 2020, were lower than usual, and from September, they went up, and they were changed retroactively; for the Armed Forces, beck to 2015 (in that case, "only" death by "vaccines")?
My best guess was, and still is, that they simply forgot to manipulate the figures, which they corrected after I talked to a couple of embassies (and I know about at least one more person who called attention to this in August, 2020)...
Would you kindly, purely for the sake of discussion, assume the official mortality data correctly documents deaths, look at the characteristics of the deaths in the NYC mass casualty event, and render your opinion as to what the possible cause(s) may have been, based on that data? https://www.virginiastoner.com/nyc-mass-casualty-event
It strikes me as highly strange that death data simulating a democide would be fabricated, then covered up. So I wonder if you agree that the data at least raises a suspicion of intentional mass-murder.
The fabrication surprised me, too, but that was happening.
Intentional mass murder is something that I also documented in July, 2022:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/proof-of-genocide
If that's the outcome you and I want to show, we have no disagreement.
So mass murder in 2020 by what cause?
No, "only" after the injections started. I realize you don't have the time to read my brief article, but that's what's in it.
In 2020, as far as I can see, the objective was to create the appearance of a pandemic (no such thing exists) in order to justify the (sooner-or-later) lethal injections.
The 5G installations certainly did the job with chemtrails and other means of mass murder:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/a-summary-of-general-poisoning
There is a lot more, but we have only limited room here.
PS: The mortality data for 2020 does NOT create the appearance of a pandemic--it creates the appearance of a mass casualty event by some unknowns means. So that pretty much blows your hypothesis on that. And it also explains why it was covered up.
So you cannot simply state why the US mortality records for 2020 are incorrect, and list the primary evidence to support it, so you want me to piece it together from your wiritngs?
If you show me the data I'll check it out. I never go on opinions or unsupported claims when it comes to matters of record because I've learned better--remember I have an entire category on my blog for the many ways the mortality data is being covered up--and this is only possible because we lazily dance around matters of record. The entire "retracted Johns Hopkins paper" operation--which continues to be cited as 'evidence' today--worked because no one looked up the numbers that are a matter of record. https://www.virginiastoner.com/writing/category/US+democide+coverup
Thanks for the comments Ginny. On the "consent" yes people consented, but it wasn't a true informed consent of the contents or known side effects, nor if/how any virus was proven, which we know was not, nor the purposes of the shots with all the nanotech in them. This uninformed and misinformed criminal consent goes against Nuremberg Code, Geneva Convention, and Helsinki Declarations in my understanding. That's a pretty burnt toast.
So if Rancourt is right about 31 million excess deaths globally from 2020-2022--and if it was NOT from something that people consented to, like medical treatment, or a vaccine--and if it was not a virus, or other natural means, then--well that pretty much puts an end to Hitler's reign as Most Evil, doesn't it?
On my end, I consider 30 million is a grave understatement. It's impossible to keep count on the numbers of fatal heart disease and cancer that is still producing the "desired" results. Shocking with numbers and even fake events is in the globalists' arsenal:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-shock-effect
"Shocking" numerics seem to keep the actual number of victims by claiming ten times more than the media, and at least ten times less than the actual figures; it's standard procedure to keep the discussion within "justifiable" limits.
"Vaccines" became a side show already over two years ago:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/no-need-for-any-more-vaccinations
The range of the general poisoning is a lot more than one could sanely imagine:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/an-unlikely-synthesis-a-comprehensive
Much about Hitler is a myth (mostly created and maintained by Hollywood and by the MSM that was conclusively hijacked no later than 2012), but, say, Stalin was an "ally," who claimed about 60 million victims. Doesn't that say enough about the way the banking system has been creating two world wars and countless other forms of democide?
People were poisoned by vaccines because they signed off on it. (Except children, who were assaulted.) They have a right to sign off on it. Sure, they were misled, as usual--so let's spend the next 10 years arguing about it in court, then sign a confidential settlement agreement. Big deal. Same goes for consensual medical treatment--it is not a crime against humanity, even if some people want to call it "iatrogenicide" to make it sound that way.
Hitler was an illustration because he's held up as a bad guy. Of course he was just another globalist role-player. I used the illustration because of the "6 million" story line.
"Not true consent"--of course--truly informed consent is an illusion. But they have the signature on a consent form, so that is a much deeper issue, and therefore leaves room for argument. There is absolutely no room for argument if someone covertly disbursed a chemical weapon, or covertly poisoned us with electromagnetic radiation--it is clear mass-murder under any standard.
And most people never read the small print...
A main focus of Proton's article was the Bailey's coverup of the US democide of 2020, including their complete failure to mention the massive increase in deaths in 2020 in their book The Final Pandemc, or ever, which I wrote about at this link. Yet for some reason, the Baileys did not name me on their enemies list--no doubt this would be at odds with the coverup. https://www.virginiastoner.com/writing/2024/6/5/the-final-pandemic-or-how-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-democide
You said that deaths in 2020 could have been retroactively altered--but I've previously proven this did not occur--at least the numbers did not change between November 2020 and May 2023.
There has been a lot of propaganda designed to create the impression there were little or no excess deaths in 2020, which continues to this day, starting with the "retracted Johns Hopkins paper" operation in November 2020. In spite of the "deaths were normal" message of this operation, it did include the number of deaths recorded between mid-March and mid-September 2020 (perhaps to mock our ignorance of the numbers?) --and that number was in fact huge compared to previous years, contrary to the assertion in the paper--and the number of deaths in the official records was approximately the same in November 2020 when the paper was published as it was in May 2023 when I broke it down here: https://www.virginiastoner.com/writing/2023/5/9/have-us-deaths-been-fabricated
Well, in August, 2020, I checked out five countries and talked to embassies about mortality rates that showed that in the five countries I checked, death rates were lower than usual. In September, I found that the figures were altered. I wonder how you can prove I was wrong.
It would have made sense to elevate death rates in order to prove there was a pandemic (pandemics don't exist) going on, but the figures showed the opposite.
As the corrections came in in September, 2020, I would put it down to sloppiness in the propaganda machine (it's not necessarily handled by the smartest cookies in the jar). Archive.com can always be used by anyone to recover previous posts on any, or at least most, we sites. This is EXACTLY the reason why I wonder when the charts you are using were published...
Again, show me your numbers, your data. If you are just going on memory from 4 years ago, and/or what someone verbally told you on the phone, I can't rely on that
I recently looked at the official mortality data for Canada here, if you are interested. They had a mass casualty event in Spring 2020 like the US, and a large increase in deaths in 2020, not as large as the US tho, according to this data. https://www.virginiastoner.com/writing/2024/7/13/democide-in-canada-2020-2022
People who think quickly and logically often make the mistake of assuming that others are the same. For them, the discovery of a truth immediately puts the picture together, as they immediately receive answers to 50 other questions. After that, they don't understand why their slow-thinking people have problems with questions that they practically answered with the 1 truth. Of course, this does not mean that there is no paid "opposition", it is only necessary to distinguish between slow thinkers and pseudo-opposition. Their style usually betrays them at some point because slow thinkers want arguments while they don't and think they are superior. They treat others condescendingly and humiliatingly. But I agree with everything else, good writing. Maybe your impatience stems from the fact that you were lucky in your life to be surrounded by mostly sensible people who were companions in conversations?
So glad to have read this post today for many reasons. Your SS's are always eye-openers for me, and to be quite honest and humble, I don't always understand everything you are writing about, but am always willing to learn. Recently I learned of another Substack that is making me question both the virus and no virus theory...maybe that is all a distraction for something else? The C C P is behind a lot of issues that we are experiencing covertly, and Brandon goes over some of them in his SS's. This is a link to a recent article he wrote.
https://electrostasis.substack.com/p/cognitive-integrity-140-zombie-fungus?publication_id=1647268&post_id=148710259&isFreemail=true&r=18xl84&triedRedirect=true
Sam Bailey showing my account in her video was hilarious considering I didn't do anything to them. Those two can't be trusted.
Its showing your account also confirms my suspicion that they want to bundle you up with a number of other people, most of whom you have literally nothing in common.
From a nonscientist who hasn't followed or read many of the Substack contributors noted above, I can only say, "Wow." Some nasty people are writing on Substack. I marvel at people who expend their energy so frivolously.
I suppose many readers are like me and came to Substack in order to gain more information about the origins and machinations of the "Covid Crisis." Certainly I hoped to learn more about how to protect myself and enjoy what I term full health. I honestly sit here smh. I can't believe the pettiness and overextended egos. As you point out, I suppose some have other agendas and bosses whom we don't know.
So strange. I left a "spiritual website" a month or so ago because the whole approach simply didn't interest me anymore after several years. I had encountered some fantastic new lines of inquiries for discovery and self learning, but the school was ultimately geared toward a different type of individual and approach. There are no real relationships via the web. I hated to let go, though, because I lost my Buddhist community with their adoption of CDC protocols and slick video to encourage the vaxx in 2021.
I've reached some sort of plateau here, too, where I don't really care anymore about Covid, nanotechnology, 5G, and so forth. The only true thing I can find is my own life and self. Perhaps this is the result of which you speak, Ray. So much misdirection and false information simply creates a maelstrom which just makes people pull away.
I initially enjoyed all the information and different viewpoints pouring from Substack, but just in the last week, I've realized that, whether or not deliberate or orchestrated, much of the "information" is highly subjectively interpreted and analyzed. I do think you're right to encourage people to recognize that, in the end, all they've got is themselves to determine what matters and what they'll do about it. I think sharing personal anecdotal experience is probably the best the web can do.
Very much like the comment I was about to make in that Substack has been so informative and the different angles of approach to certain topics have been very enlightening but recently I am tiring of it. Everyone appears to be called a shill or controlled opposition by someone else and it is becoming too negative. Its a great shame as it has been amazing.
Good point, and we have to consider that was one of the points of making SS, which at the end of the day is designed to find out what we think, what sways us, see who our connections are, to corral us into a corner then make us into a mess. Standard narrative control tactics.
You can recognize shills by the number of followers and I have also supplied plenty of tools for it. Still, I am planning my next post to summarize them; not that I haven't done it before, but I can't expect anyone to browse through 936 articles. :)
You are on your own, and it's unpleasant to realize. Those who use "we" are most likely agents.
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/divide-and-rule-is-working-in-mysterious
Moreover, it's possible to learn from shills, too, because they MUST publish facts that make them credible. Just don't believe their conclusions and mind the compartmentalization.
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-highest-level-operatives-are
Common sense doesn't need a certificate, and you have that. :)
Just about everything that is at least halfway good on Substack is allowed only because it contributes to the general gaslighting. That includes my materials, so one's only option is to develop their own way of thinking about this all. That's why I only provide what I can and, although I've made up my mind four and a half years ago, I don't expect anyone to agree with me. Still, I hope that most people will make similar decisions and, as organized resistance is impossible, they will end up cooperating when the time comes WITHOUT waiting for each other.
On my part, I don't believe in any spiritual hocus-pocus; if the world is created by a benevolent Creator, all one has to do is place their trust where it belongs. If it's not, then nothing makes any difference. I know, it boils down to everyone's own experience, which I respect, even if they think I am not "spiritual." In fact, I have had my own experience:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/no-i-am-not-a-religious-nut
You seem to be focusing on what matters; I am no judge of this, but I would be happy to be correct in this case. :)
Among my 936 articles, you might be able to find some more useful ones after searching for key words under "Archive" on my main page...
I couldn't agree more regarding regarding Mrs Poppins & Bert, they're playing their role. Thank you
Please, explain a bit more, if you have the time. :)
That Dr Sam & Mark Bailey are playing their role, if they were truly a threat to the system with the attention they get they wouldn't be so successful, its all too slick aswell. Not that i believe viruses exsit in how we've been taught. More distractions imo, because it wont matter about the virology & germ theory debate, if these parasites enact the bio-digital medical & economic grid / green tyranny under the guise of sustainability.
How they haven't lost their licenses i don't know, ive see Dr's losing theirs for less in contemporary times, & Sam Baileys youtube channel is quite big to. I could be wrong of course lol.
Have a good day mate.
I simply refuse to accept that viruses exist. My avoidance of all vaccines for decades has been prudent. Where are the viruses that these clowns claim exist? You ask the CDC and they never have anything to show us.
Obviously, nobody with two brain cells to rub together would accept that pathogenic viruses exist. The tiny particles that tend to be called viruses are most likely exosomes, parts of the body's detox process. They can exhibit some sort of uniformity, when they discard specific types of toxins:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/catching-the-idea-of-a-virus
The only common denominator between the bunch singled out by the Baileys is that they don't believe in viruses, at least as far as I know. That, however, doesn't make them heroes, and believing all (or just most) of them in most things would only contribute to the general gaslighting.
Bait and switch, a favourite tactic. Comirnaty being one
Actually, bait-and-switch and limited hangouts first, and finally compartmentalization and gaslighting; at least, that's how I see it...
Nice post Ray and good quote:
"it might be time for considerate readers to pay attention to red herrings, limited hangouts, and especially to the art of compartmentalization"
Thank you kindly. Also, you are quoting me, which might be better than a fake Einstein quote! :)